Google suddenly adds Grooveshark to its piracy search term blacklist
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[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;41570326]MOG is like Spotify but with a better interface, online streaming (no program install required) and a better mobile app (since the last time I used Spotify's).[/QUOTE]
US only.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41570342]It's not really. For the service you get it's actually pretty decent, high quality music, industry support and a good client
The ads are very repetitive, but at least they're not awful[/QUOTE]
But it doesn't have lots of songs, and the adverts make me want to scream
I wouldn't mind paying, but £10 a month for mobile streaming while having gaping holes in my music collection? Ridiculous
[QUOTE=Trumple;41570350]how is a multi-platform browser proprietary?
and how can a search engine be proprietary?
or if you mean the literal sense of proprietary as in "owning something", how can there be a non-proprietary search engine?![/QUOTE]
help googles tracking me so that the ads are relevant time to put on a tinfoil hat and only use duckduckgo for the web's top searches
[QUOTE=Trumple;41570375]But it doesn't have lots of songs, and the adverts make me want to scream
I wouldn't mind paying, but £10 a month for mobile streaming while having gaping holes in my music collection? Ridiculous[/QUOTE]
I actually rarely run in to times where spotify doesn't have a song I want to listen to
I don't know, maybe it's dependant on genre/label
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;41570383]help googles tracking me so that the ads are relevant time to put on a tinfoil hat and only use duckduckgo for the web's top searches[/QUOTE]
help where did my viagra adverts go???
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[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41570387]I actually rarely run in to times where spotify doesn't have a song I want to listen to
I don't know, maybe it's dependant on genre/label[/QUOTE]
it is dependant on the label, you're right, but it's a shame
Lol I still use Rhapsody.
Like FlubberNugget said above, it just depends on the artist/label. For example I was a bit upset when I found out Tool wasn't on Spotify, but that's because Tool doesn't release ANYTHING for download or streaming. IIRC it's actually on Grooveshark though which is cool.
Grooveshark is the poor man's Spotify. It's not that bad either.
[QUOTE=BurningPlayd0h;41570326]MOG is like Spotify but with a better interface, online streaming (no program install required) and a better mobile app (since the last time I used Spotify's).[/QUOTE]
Spotify has a web player and last I checked the Android mobile app works pretty well too. I also see now issue with the desktop client, though I suppose it depends on who you are. It does copy iTunes a bit mind.
[QUOTE=Trumple;41570350]how is a multi-platform browser proprietary?
and how can a search engine be proprietary?
or if you mean the literal sense of proprietary as in "owning something", how can there be a non-proprietary search engine?![/QUOTE]
while ignoring the dumb post you're quoting, i can tell you this: open-source.
[QUOTE=Cowabanga;41570487]Grooveshark is the poor man's Spotify. It's not that bad either.[/QUOTE]
How is Grooveshark the "poor man's Spotify"?
If anything, Spotify is the poor man's Grooveshark.
You are poor if you have to pay for something when you can get it cheaper/free or go without it.
[QUOTE=MCCCXXXIII;41572905]How is Grooveshark the "poor man's Spotify"?
If anything, Spotify is the poor man's Grooveshark.
You are poor if you have to pay for something when you can get it cheaper/free or go without it.[/QUOTE]
spotify has more artists, higher sound quality, and doesn't run in a webbrowser
also it's 100% free if you only use it on a computer
[QUOTE=supersnail11;41573228]spotify has more artists, higher sound quality, and doesn't run in a webbrowser
also it's 100% free if you only use it on a computer[/QUOTE]
It's also unsupported in Canada.
I was using Grooveshark before Australia had Spotify. I guess Spotify is a tad better but the ads do bring it down.
Also I searched for "music shark" on my new computer to see what came up. Bam. GrooveShark first result, way to get your knickers in a knot TorrentFreak.
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Nevermind I'm dumb, didn't release it was for those auto suggestions.
I've only used Grooveshark once, and it was to listen to Random Access Memories the night the album was first uploaded for public listening. I liked it enough to buy the album.
[QUOTE=Rhenae;41570195]Grooveshark plays music from artists without asking for any permissions or paying any royalties to them. Im not sure about popular music but that I at least know for independent artists.[/QUOTE]
Grooveshark does pay royalties when the artist claims their music so it is legal.
Google is a terrible company in many regards.
It isn't like YouTube doesn't have copy-write infringing videos on it, right? Oh, yeah, I wonder if Google will put its own service on a blacklist for the same reason it puts other sites on there. Hm.
I don't really see the point of using Grooveshark. A lot of the music is poorly tagged or in shit quality.
[QUOTE=.FLAP.JACK.DAN.;41573401]Grooveshark does pay royalties when the artist claims their music so it is legal.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Grooveshark aren't actually legal - they've had lawsuits filed by pretty much all the major companies, and Apple/Google/FB etc. have all removed the grooveshark app from their sites/stores.
They're also involved in several lawsuits at the moment where they are not paying the• copyright owners any of the royalties they are meant to.
On top of that, they've never asked my permission to distribute my music and have not paid me a penny to do so, so I would be careful about supporting them.[/QUOTE]
A quote from Dummeh (Blake Robinson) on Youtube, in response to a fan commenting you can find his original music on grooveshark to listen to.
They may be semi-legal through some loopholes but they are neither doing a very good job of it (paying the royalties they should) nor should they really be able to stream random peoples work without paying them unless the maker seeks them out for it.
[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;41569050]Wow, didn't know about grooveshark.
Thanks for informing me google.[/QUOTE]
Anti-piracy attempts in a nutshell
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[QUOTE=agentgamma;41574319]I don't really see the point of using Grooveshark. A lot of the music is poorly tagged or in shit quality.[/QUOTE]
The only use I've found for it is occasionally playing specific music at a friends house or at a party when you don't have it on your phone.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;41573258]It's also unsupported in Canada.[/QUOTE]
Sign in via a VPN? You can disable it once you're logged in I think.
Did you guys even read the article? This line more specifically:
[QUOTE]There are certain words Google doesn’t want its users to see without explicitly searching for them.[/QUOTE]
Of course google is going to show you grooveshark if you search for groove and shit. What this means is that if you search for music streamers and shit online without mentioning grooveshark, google will not bring it up.
[QUOTE=Flapadar;41574390]Sign in via a VPN? You can disable it once you're logged in I think.[/QUOTE]
Then you're going to have to repeat the process every week if you're on the free plan which can get kinda tedious.
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lol, gg, Google
[QUOTE=aydin690;41574462]
Of course google is going to show you grooveshark if you search for groove and shit. What this means is that if you search for music streamers and shit online without mentioning grooveshark, google will not bring it up.[/QUOTE]
the intent is also to stop it from auto-completing to grooveshark, but as you can see in my screenshot, it still does that
Listening and searching for tracks on Grooveshark isn't too bad once you learn to pick out the lower quality uploads, which might sound irritating at first but it doesn't take up that much time.
Whenever I want to find a song, I search for it, and the higher quality versions would usually have its proper tags and album artwork.
Sometimes you also kill two birds with one stone when you find tags where it's a totally different version of the same song, like it would turn out it's some unreleased version/demo, or an acoustic version from a radio performance.
But I guess it's understandable that nobody would actually want to spend time doing all this when they know they can just stream it at an instant. And there are the chances that Grooveshark just doesn't have the same tracks that Spotify has.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;41569502]There are better non-proprietary services out there.[/QUOTE]
Like?
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41570387]I actually rarely run in to times where spotify doesn't have a song I want to listen to
I don't know, maybe it's dependant on genre/label[/QUOTE]
I've found ONE artists I couldn't find on spotify.
My library on spotify is just over 1400 songs, although sometimes I have to wait for a song to arrive on Spotify, I haven't had any problems.
[QUOTE=willtheoct;41570928]while ignoring the dumb post you're quoting, i can tell you this: open-source.[/QUOTE]
He's talking about a website, Google
All [search engine]websites are owned by someone or something
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also if you're ignoring the post I'm replying to, my reply doesn't make sense. Neither does yours, if I ignore the post you're replying to
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[QUOTE=SataniX;41576187]I've found ONE artists I couldn't find on spotify.
My library on spotify is just over 1400 songs, although sometimes I have to wait for a song to arrive on Spotify, I haven't had any problems.[/QUOTE]
a lot of mainstream stuff is on there but there have been plenty of times when that's not the case. Last I checked, The Beatles and Oasis were still not on Spotify at all, let alone countless numbers of indie bands
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[QUOTE=supersnail11;41573228]spotify has more artists, higher sound quality, and doesn't run in a webbrowser
also it's 100% free if you only use it on a computer[/QUOTE]
Spotify has fewer artists, purely because Grooveshark's content comes from users uploading it and some licensing issues
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