Michigan Teens Try to Flash Mob a Guy; Guy shoots teens in the ass for being fucking retarded

[Mr. Someguy]

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;41976806]Sucker punching random people and stungunning them ? This is incredibly dangerous. Is it wrong to feel glad that this idiot met a gun owner with a bad day?[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure any day you get punched with a stun gun because some kid gets a kick out of hurting strangers counts as a "bad day".

[Tetsmega]

Wasn't there a guy who died from a sucker punch?

[Sgt. Napalm]

[QUOTE=Kopimi;41977495]wroooooong you don't shoot to kill that's police code you are confused

if you shoot to kill in a self defense situation you're probably doing something very wrong[/QUOTE]

i more of meant that when you shoot a gun at another living being its with the implicit understanding that you are probably going to cause their death. you do not shoot a gun at another living being without being prepared for that being to die as a direct consequence. its not like a taser or a pepper spray where you know its probably not going to kill the target.

[Sundowner]

kids used to do this round my way, at least without the taser. We called it happy slapping and I never really thought much of it

[Cureless]

Piece of shit, too bad he didn't bleed out.

We got no room for assholes like that in our societies.

[RaikohZX]

[QUOTE=Cureless;41978276]Piece of shit, too bad he didn't bleed out.

We got no room for assholes like that in our societies.[/QUOTE]

Being a douchebag is never a good thing, sure, but that's just being unpleasant.

[draugur]

[QUOTE=Cureless;41978276]Piece of shit, too bad he didn't bleed out.

We got no room for assholes like that in our societies.[/QUOTE]

You're disgusting. Yes the kid deserved what he got, but he doesn't deserve to die. He's just a stupid kid with loose morals, since when was being weak to peer pressure considered grounds to be killed? Kids are vastly impressionable.

[Missing User]

This happened to me when I was in middle school. The guy who punched me broke my nose so bad it never really went back straight and it was so he could get into a "gang"

I put that in quotes because I can't take any group in middle school seriously as a gang.

[rrkpp_]

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;41977629]Self defense authorizes lethal force if you feel your life is in immediate danger. If you only wound someone, your life is still in danger. Especially if they are on PCP or something.[/QUOTE]

im not saying theres no situation in which self defense grants you lethal force but its definitely not a 100% range of cases. if someone tries mugging you and you shoot them while they're halfway down the block running away from you, you fucked up

[breakyourface]

[QUOTE=frozensoda;41978539]This happened to me when I was in middle school. The guy who punched me broke my nose so bad it never really went back straight and it was so he could get into a "gang"

I put that in quotes because I can't take any group in middle school seriously as a gang.[/QUOTE]

You may not think of it as serious but I had friends in middle school joining into gangs, initiation is usually committing some sort of crime against someone. He could've been a poser, but where I grew up in South Chicago it wasn't uncommon at all for young kids to be joining up with real gangs.

[DarkCisco]

I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.

[draugur]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]

Your morals are disgusting and I really hope you don't ever have children to spread your morals to another generation.

[J.C.DentonUNATCO]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]

What if he was a secret agent and the dude with the gun was an assassin on his way to Washington D.C. and only the kid could stop him with a well placed sucker punch to the man's previously broken and still fragile jaw?

[Chronitonity]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]
youre right lets kill anyone who does something dumb especially when they are a kid
!!!

[breakyourface]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]

You're obviously trolling.

[DaysBefore]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]
Internet nerd to English translation:
"I would've screamed and ran away.

I don't see why this didn't do it. The kid was a minority and they're very scary, or so my mom tells me!!!"

[Kartoffel]

[QUOTE=Kopimi;41978905]im not saying theres no situation in which self defense grants you lethal force but its definitely not a 100% range of cases. if someone tries mugging you and you shoot them while they're halfway down the block running away from you, you fucked up[/QUOTE]

A shot in the back is usually incriminating anyways. Hell, in Virginia you are not allowed to shoot someone in the back if they break into your house. It makes it look like they were trying to run away which would pretty much void your self defense excuse.

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979037]I would of chased the kid down and executed him.

I don't see why this guy didn't do it. The kid wasn't gonna contribute anything to society anyways.[/QUOTE]

Okay, [i]that[/i] is not self defense, that's murder.

[Peepin]

So I went to the article to read it some more and there is a 911 call recording: (A bit into the conversation like 15 seconds)
Shooter: I have a license with the TCW.. ugh.. he's terminally wounded and ugh--
Operator: He's currently what?!
Shooter: wounded..
Operator: WOUNDED?
Shooter: Yes;
Operator: You shit- did you shoot him?
Shooter: **Doesn't reply for rest of conversation**
Operator: **Asks if he is still there and keeps trying to confirm if he shot someone**

I found that pretty hilarious to be honest!

[DarkCisco]

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41979173]You're obviously trolling.[/QUOTE]

The great thing about this site is that when someone disagrees with you you can say it's trolling.

This kid was a idiot to even consider this. It was either punch this guy and get shot and killed, or rob a 7/11 and kill everyone.

[breakyourface]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979474]The great thing about this site is that when someone disagrees with you you can say it's trolling.

This kid was a idiot to even consider this. It was either punch this guy and get shot and killed, or rob a 7/11 and kill everyone.[/QUOTE]

You really think someone on the internet can be that stupid?

[Diet Kane]

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;41979589]You really think someone on the internet can be that stupid?[/QUOTE]

well you're here so

[rrkpp_]

[QUOTE=DarkCisco;41979474]The great thing about this site is that when someone disagrees with you you can say it's trolling.

This kid was a idiot to even consider this. It was either punch this guy and get shot and killed, or rob a 7/11 and kill everyone.[/QUOTE]

people calling you a troll are just giving you the benefit of the doubt and hoping you're not actually stupid enough to think something like what you posted

[catbarf]

[QUOTE=teh pirate;41976188]The man wasn't sure if he'd been stabbed or something, heat of the moment defense. Plus the fact that he stood by and was fully helpful and cooperative - the teen wouldn't have a case, even if he wanted to.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how you think either of those affect it. Heat of the moment is a defense used to absolve an individual of criminal liability, but they may still be subject to civil liability. Lethal force is only justified in self-defense to end a threat- if you shoot someone who is fleeing from you, you're not responding to a threat, you're getting revenge. The article isn't really clear about whether it was a shot at point blank or if the kid was trying to flee.

I'd probably do the same thing, and the guy certainly won't be tried in a criminal court for it, I'm just saying that depending on the details there could be a case for a civil suit.

[breakyourface]

[QUOTE=catbarf;41980217]I'm not sure how you think either of those affect it. Heat of the moment is a defense used to absolve an individual of criminal liability, but they may still be subject to civil liability. Lethal force is only justified in self-defense to end a threat- if you shoot someone who is fleeing from you, you're not responding to a threat, you're getting revenge. The article isn't really clear about whether it was a shot at point blank or if the kid was trying to flee.

I'd probably do the same thing, and the guy certainly won't be tried in a criminal court for it, I'm just saying that depending on the details there could be a case for a civil suit.[/QUOTE]

The simple fact that he stood there and helped the kid until the ambulance should tell the jury enough about his intention. He acted in the heat of the moment and after he realized he shot a stupid teenager, he felt sorry.

[viperfan7]

[QUOTE=lintz;41974789]Morally, that idiot deserved it.

Lawfully, he didn't.[/QUOTE]

This is exactly what concealed carry is for, self defense, the guy was even smart enough to instead of aiming for something that would cause a tone of damage, he shot the kid in the ass.

[Jays2Kings]

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;41976571]Oh I'm surprised no one brought this up

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixhyj03rLcY[/media][/QUOTE]

I was more reminded of this (at 2:00):
[video=youtube;Gnl7_ay1sjM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnl7_ay1sjM[/video]

[Kegan]

A million dollar wound :v:

[Missing User]

[QUOTE=viperfan7;41980894]This is exactly what concealed carry is for, self defense, the guy was even smart enough to instead of aiming for something that would cause a tone of damage, he shot the kid in the ass.[/QUOTE]

Don't underestimate the damage a bullet can do. A shot in the ass can [b]easily[/b] land you paralyzed for life, and you will be lucky if you don't need a colostomy bag for years/life.

[Irkalla]

[QUOTE=lintz;41974789]Morally, that idiot deserved it.

Lawfully, he didn't.[/QUOTE]

For those rating this dumb, the man backshot the teen. Come the hell on. He had no legal or moral standing to shoot a retreating attacker.

[Radio]

[QUOTE=Irkalla;41981239]For those rating this dumb, the man backshot the teen. Come the hell on. He had no legal or moral standing to shoot a retreating attacker.[/QUOTE]

So I can go outside right now, stab some random dude in the back, run away, and he can't shoot me cause I'm fleeing? Man, I wish I knew this earlier! Time to go stab whoever I want!