Netflix to utilize proxy detection software to sniff out anyone who tries to get around their countr - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Pw0nageXD;49532363]You guys shouldn't be hating on Netflix to be honest. This isn't a choice made by them. This is a choice made by the studios who basically tell Netflix "We gave you a license for these five countries. There's a huge amount of people from other countries using it and we haven't licensed you to let them use it. Do a better job at preventing them from doing this or we wont license you shit" I understand people wanting Netflix to tell the networks to fuck off, but you have to remember that without the networks, Netflix can't function. Netflix does a LOT in our favor in the first place, but only they can do so much. Think about the whole issue with data caps. Netflix is one of the people pushing against them hard. Netflix stands up against the bullshit ISPs pull. Netflix called Comcast out on their crap. The thing is, Comcast is Comcast/NBC. Netflix NEEDS the NBC side to license them movies and TV shows. Without those licenses, Netflix can't function. They push against these companies hard, but there's only so much they can really do.[/QUOTE] I don't hate Netflix, I love the idea behind it, the only people who I do truly hate are those people who came up with these horrible systems, to me region locked media is as a bad as an always online game, the customer is always going to lose either way.

[QUOTE=Pw0nageXD;49532363]You guys shouldn't be hating on Netflix to be honest. This isn't a choice made by them. This is a choice made by the studios. You should be hating on the studios that basically tell Netflix I understand people wanting Netflix to tell the networks to fuck off, but you have to remember that without the networks, Netflix can't function. Netflix does a LOT in our favor in the first place, but only they can do so much without ruining themselves. Think about the whole issue with data caps. Netflix is one of the people pushing against them hard. Netflix stands up against the bullshit ISPs pull. Netflix called Comcast out on their crap. The thing is, Comcast is Comcast/NBC. Netflix NEEDS the NBC side to license them movies and TV shows. Without those licenses, Netflix can't function. They push against these companies hard, but there's only so much they can really do.[/QUOTE] Well it wouldn't be fair to each regions licensing right owner's since it infringes their previously agreed contracts. You guys have to understand that how licensing is used to be done in the past is affecting all parties involved. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] A lot of Netflix's licensing deal for its content were originally made for US before its international expansion.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;49532374]I recall already a year back people using proxies reported about getting blocked. But Netflix never confirmed anything.[/QUOTE] Anyone who gets blocked is probably someone that searches for VPNs or Netflix-friendly VPNs; VPNs are easy to blacklist because a few providers are very popular. If you really want to have a hassle free time go for a VPS from a web hosting company.

Looks like it's time to cancel, Australian netflix has shit all on it

I hope Netflix doesn't suffer from this (forced) decision. There has to be someone to drag old media kicking and screaming into this century. Besides, I'd rather have one single service for on-demand shows, rather than having to subscribe to every separate network for a couple of shows each.

[QUOTE=Pw0nageXD;49532363]You guys shouldn't be hating on Netflix to be honest. This isn't a choice made by them. This is a choice made by the studios. You should be hating on the studios that basically tell Netflix I understand people wanting Netflix to tell the networks to fuck off, but you have to remember that without the networks, Netflix can't function. Netflix does a LOT in our favor in the first place, but only they can do so much without ruining themselves. Think about the whole issue with data caps. Netflix is one of the people pushing against them hard. Netflix stands up against the bullshit ISPs pull. Netflix called Comcast out on their crap. The thing is, Comcast is Comcast/NBC. Netflix NEEDS the NBC side to license them movies and TV shows. Without those licenses, Netflix can't function. They push against these companies hard, but there's only so much they can really do.[/QUOTE] what these company don't get is they bull this kind of crap they will the a some kind of pirates bay very popular.

Fucking fuck shit fuck. They really love making it hard for people who are willing to pay for content.

lol Netflix will negotiate for global rights for all of its offered content which I believe they will acquire it eventually. You guys need to chill a bit.

How about get more decent licenses for the UK then fuck sake i tried the US version just once and its fucking crazy how much more stuff they have, yet i believe we pay the same fucking price.

[QUOTE=Swamplord;49532711]lol Netflix will negotiate for global rights for all of its offered content which I believe they will acquire it eventually. You guys need to chill a bit.[/QUOTE] hahahahahaha. Good luck on that. That is never going to happen overnight, nor realistically even within 5-10 years. It's possible newer releases will start to see less geographic restrictions but when it comes to older shows, particularly those that had VHS/DVD/BluRay releases or were broadcast on TV you will be waiting a long, long time barring some unilateral agreement between studios/distributors/etc (which is extremely unlikely)

[QUOTE=Swamplord;49532711]lol Netflix will negotiate for global rights for all of its offered content which I believe they will acquire it eventually. You guys need to chill a bit.[/QUOTE] considering this has been a problem since copyright has been a concept, thinking Netflix will solve it even just for their platform is naive studios wouldn't pressure them into stopping unblockers if there was any intention to fix the limitations themselves

[QUOTE=Dissolution;49532776]considering this has been a problem since copyright has been a concept, thinking Netflix will solve it even just for their platform is naive studios wouldn't pressure them into stopping unblockers if there was any intention to fix the limitations themselves[/QUOTE] Even when game studios/publishers have the option of sharing without geographic restrictions they don't take it (as seen on Steam). Seeing as game publishing is far, far less encumbered by the reasons that TVs/movies have for being region restricted (i.e. local distributors etc) then you can pretty much guarantee that where there is an exec who thinks there is a buck to be made then the customer base will be fucked over.

[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;49532216]How exactly can they detect a proxy anyway; its not like anyone actually uses proxies. People use VPNs (for whatever reason) and VPS servers. The VPS services I used for netflix etc were like $5 a month, so if they got blocked I'd just buy another one. Big deal.[/QUOTE] I... Don't think you understand what a VPN or a VPS is.

[QUOTE=varg666;49532253]David of Netflix can go eat a dick.[/QUOTE] Signed: A pissed off Aussie :v: How limited is the Australian Netflix catalog, compared to the US or the UK catalog?

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49532907]Signed: A pissed off Aussie :v: How limited is the Australian Netflix catalog, compared to the US or the UK catalog?[/QUOTE] You should see the NZ catalog, its even worse than the bad Australian one.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49532907]Signed: A pissed off Aussie :v: How limited is the Australian Netflix catalog, compared to the US or the UK catalog?[/QUOTE] UK and US catalogue is fucking amazing, you got better call saul, every BBC show, channel 4 etc under the sun on UK netflix and so many documentaries, new released movies etc on US netflix AU netflix sucks ass right now, you have to use a proxy to get your moneys worth

[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;49532769]hahahahahaha. [B]Good luck on that. That is never going to happen overnight, nor realistically even within 5-10 years.[/B] It's possible newer releases will start to see less geographic restrictions but when it comes to older shows, particularly those that had VHS/DVD/BluRay releases or were broadcast on TV you will be waiting a long, long time barring some unilateral agreement between studios/distributors/etc (which is extremely unlikely)[/QUOTE] yeah no shit that's what I mentioned in an earlier post. [QUOTE=Dissolution;49532776]considering this has been a problem since copyright has been a concept, thinking Netflix will solve it even just for their platform is naive studios wouldn't pressure them into stopping unblockers if there was any intention to fix the limitations themselves[/QUOTE] Like I mentioned in an earlier post, it infringes their previously agreed contracts with the respective regions licensing right owners. I assuming studios have to take action to avoid legal complaints from them since region rights owners will lose out the most in this. It won't be easy for Netflix since there is a lot of companies and negotiations involve for each show but they did manage to acquire global licensing rights for some of their shows recently.

[QUOTE=Boilrig;49532938]You should see the NZ catalog, its even worse than the bad Australian one.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=fruxodaily;49533136]UK and US catalogue is fucking amazing, you got better call saul, every BBC show, channel 4 etc under the sun on UK netflix and so many documentaries, new released movies etc on US netflix AU netflix sucks ass right now, you have to use a proxy to get your moneys worth[/QUOTE] Not sure if you guys tried it already, but have you tried the Latin America catalog? It's not half bad, actually. For instance -- the first 2 seasons of The Americans (I'm guessing the 3rd season will be up shortly, in preparation for season 4 on March this year) are available on Netflix LATAM, whereas they're not available on Netflix US.

[QUOTE=Ltp0wer;49531928]What the studios and networks are doing makes sense if you don't think about it.[/QUOTE] How, from the Studio's POV, does it make sense to drive otherwise paying customers to piracy? [QUOTE=Chrille;49531964]I think you overestimate the studios. Probably, they just want to exert influence where they can: “This is in effect another form of piracy — one semi-sanctioned by Netflix, since they are getting paid by subscribers in territories where Netflix does not have the rights to sell our content.” - Keith Le Goy, president of distribution at Sony Pictures.[/QUOTE] Mr Le Goy, you are a massive moron. It isn't piracy. You are getting free money. Stop trying to fuck customers over and just drop the region locking bullshit.

I'm watching shit on Netflix right now using proxmate to switch to the US, if they banned me that's a customer lost (I pay for extra users + 4k too) and it would also more than likely drive me to just pirate the stuff I want to watch I'm guessing the film and tv studios that are pushing this sort of stuff don't realise that without netflix, piracy rates of their movies and shows would skyrocket

[QUOTE=zerosix;49533343]I'm watching shit on Netflix right now using proxmate to switch to the US, if they banned me that's a customer lost (I pay for extra users + 4k too) and it would also more than likely drive me to just pirate the stuff I want to watch I'm guessing the film and tv studios that are pushing this sort of stuff don't realise that without netflix, piracy rates of their movies and shows would skyrocket[/QUOTE] Guys like valve said and the other companies need to listen... "Piracy is a service problem." these studios just destroyed a good and alternative service to piracy in Non-US/UK regions. Netflix should have had a condition to this: Negotiate licensing in other countries so that they have a good amount of content.

[QUOTE=MissingGlitch;49532168]Licensing will always be confusing to me. How can something be fine to stream in one country but say "to bad you don't get it" everywhere else. It's because of money isn't it.[/QUOTE] region locking keeps people in countries with heavy excises on digital media or strong censorship laws from importing from less restrictive countries, or, such as in netflix's case, to prevent media from being distributed in a country where a given organization doesn't have rights to the IP on the other hand it also prevents me from importing japanese games for psx and ps2 which just never had anyone bother to release in the US.

This is literally retarded tbh They need to fix their region bullshit before doing this, every time I want to watch a trilogy of movies I have to VPN to 3 different countries to actually finish it

[QUOTE=Antlerp;49531912]Are studios and networks not aware that people will substitute Netflix for piracy if this happens? Netflix harms piracy rates and if you remove that option for people then they tend to go back to piracy, resulting in absolubtly no revenues for those networks.[/QUOTE] How quickly you've forgotten the Viacom and Sony leaks. The people pressuring Netflix live in absolute insulation, and they haven't paid for media in YEARS. It's literally sent to them on a platter by interns, they get so much of it they ignore most of it, which is how you get pristine pirate copies to begin with. They literally believe themselves above the common watcher, and the fact they make six and seven figures and don't pay a dime for ANY media content, ever, including cable content being paid for by their employing company gratis. The people making the decisions [i]literally[/i] have no idea how the model they get paid from works.

[QUOTE=Antlerp;49531890]And what if people cancel their subscription because they can no longer access the shows they wanted to access that was only possible with a proxy and the subscription itself? The indirect costs to Netflix of people using proxies must be greater than the profit generated by those same people subscribing, and if it isn't, this is a very irrational move by Netflix.[/QUOTE] Blame copyright law and censors.

Perhaps it's all talk to please the lawyers. Won't be that bad I hope

Oh shit guys, time to binge some Star Trek TNG and DS9 while you still can! Prox like you've never proxed before! When I'm done doing that, I will just cancel, the danish Netflix does not have content worth the monthly subscription fee.

i guess i'll have to rush my free month by watching movies i sometimes wanted to

[QUOTE=Levelog;49532881]I... Don't think you understand what a VPN or a VPS is.[/QUOTE] How do you figure?

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49532907]Signed: A pissed off Aussie :v: How limited is the Australian Netflix catalog, compared to the US or the UK catalog?[/QUOTE]On the BBC article on the same subject it said it's something like 10%. I dread to think what the Finnish offering is, if there even is any.