Netflix to utilize proxy detection software to sniff out anyone who tries to get around their countr - Polidicks

Oh common We got fucking shit here in Canada, and it's only by using a proxy that I can watch the movies I want

I'd easily pick Netflix over piracy if it didn't have the bullshit region blocking. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] if i was a pirate

[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;49536439]How do you figure?[/QUOTE] A VPS is just a server. Simple as that. What function or protocol are you using to view netflix through it? Using a VPS as a VPN server is a perfectly viable way to do this, probably the best. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] You're basically comparing apples and cars.

[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;49532216]How exactly can they detect a proxy anyway; its not like anyone actually uses proxies. People use VPNs (for whatever reason) and VPS servers. The VPS services I used for netflix etc were like $5 a month, so if they got blocked I'd just buy another one. Big deal.[/QUOTE] They're using VPNs/VPSes [b]as[/b] proxies. I've got nothing else to do at the moment, so here's a quick rundown on how this shit works. Each and every computer on the Internet has a sort of "name tag" that explains exactly who they are, where they're from, and so on. (This isn't entirely accurate but I'm not going to spend the time to explain the details.) When you make a request to Netflix for something, e.g. [url=http://www.netflix.com/title/28369403]Galaxy Quest[/url], Netflix looks at this "name tag" to decide whether you can watch it, or get it on DVD, or even know that Netflix has it in the first place. So, if your name tag says you're from the UAE, and Netflix isn't allowed to stream Galaxy Quest to users in the UAE, Netflix will refuse to serve it to you. This is where the proxy comes in. A proxy is a computer that makes a request to Netflix on your behalf. When the proxy reads the request, Netflix reads its name tag instead of yours, and says "Oh, you're an American, of course you can watch Galaxy Quest, enjoy!" So how can they detect a proxy? With those name tags. They have more information on them than country of origin, and Netflix can look at a name tag that it knows is a proxy and say "Oh hell no, you give my shit out to the UAE and Romania and a whole slew of other countries I'm not allowed to give this out to, you don't get anything." How does it know it's a proxy? Well, usually, someone snitches, but Netflix is probably also smart enough to notice that the request is coming from a VPS from "us-based-vpses.net" and take an educated guess from there.

[QUOTE=Antlerp;49531912]Are studios and networks not aware that people will substitute Netflix for piracy if this happens? Netflix harms piracy rates and if you remove that option for people then they tend to go back to piracy, resulting in absolubtly no revenues for those networks.[/QUOTE] Those same studios and networks might be getting tag teamed by various national organisations threatening them if they don't remove their network from a globally available service, thus circumventing license agreements they have with them.

[QUOTE=lavacano;49538662]They're using VPNs/VPSes [b]as[/b] proxies. I've got nothing else to do at the moment, so here's a quick rundown on how this shit works. Each and every computer on the Internet has a sort of "name tag" that explains exactly who they are, where they're from, and so on. (This isn't entirely accurate but I'm not going to spend the time to explain the details.) When you make a request to Netflix for something, e.g. [url=http://www.netflix.com/title/28369403]Galaxy Quest[/url], Netflix looks at this "name tag" to decide whether you can watch it, or get it on DVD, or even know that Netflix has it in the first place. So, if your name tag says you're from the UAE, and Netflix isn't allowed to stream Galaxy Quest to users in the UAE, Netflix will refuse to serve it to you. This is where the proxy comes in. A proxy is a computer that makes a request to Netflix on your behalf. When the proxy reads the request, Netflix reads its name tag instead of yours, and says "Oh, you're an American, of course you can watch Galaxy Quest, enjoy!" So how can they detect a proxy? With those name tags. They have more information on them than country of origin, and Netflix can look at a name tag that it knows is a proxy and say "Oh hell no, you give my shit out to the UAE and Romania and a whole slew of other countries I'm not allowed to give this out to, you don't get anything." How does it know it's a proxy? Well, usually, someone snitches, but Netflix is probably also smart enough to notice that the request is coming from a VPS from "us-based-vpses.net" and take an educated guess from there.[/QUOTE] there are much more reliable ways to detect VPNs and whatnot

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49539492]there are much more reliable ways to detect VPNs and whatnot[/QUOTE] Not really if you're using an IP from a smaller provider. Same issue with a proxy from one too.

[QUOTE=Levelog;49539639]Not really if you're using an IP from a smaller provider. Same issue with a proxy from one too.[/QUOTE] smaller providers always get from a larger datacenter smaller providers are easier to detect in that regard

[QUOTE=Map in a box;49540600]smaller providers always get from a larger datacenter smaller providers are easier to detect in that regard[/QUOTE] That isn't true though. All that really matters is who the IP is registered under with ARIN.

please tell me that Black is The New Orange is almost Over that's and House of Cards are the only Netflix shows I care about

[QUOTE=Levelog;49538488]A VPS is just a server. Simple as that. What function or protocol are you using to view netflix through it? Using a VPS as a VPN server is a perfectly viable way to do this, probably the best. [editline]15th January 2016[/editline] You're basically comparing apples and cars.[/QUOTE] You can set up a tunneling server through a VPS server and direct it to a specific browser instance. Instead of routing all your traffic through a potentially privacy-infringing shitty VPS/VPN provider then you would only use websites that actually need to be routed. It also means games etc aren't routed through it. For instance right now, Mumble is blocked for me so I route it through a tunneling session on my VPS to make it work--it doesn't affect anything else on my computer unless I want it to. [editline]16th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=lavacano;49538662]They're using VPNs/VPSes [b]as[/b] proxies. I've got nothing else to do at the moment, so here's a quick rundown on how this shit works. Each and every computer on the Internet has a sort of "name tag" that explains exactly who they are, where they're from, and so on. (This isn't entirely accurate but I'm not going to spend the time to explain the details.) When you make a request to Netflix for something, e.g. [url=http://www.netflix.com/title/28369403]Galaxy Quest[/url], Netflix looks at this "name tag" to decide whether you can watch it, or get it on DVD, or even know that Netflix has it in the first place. So, if your name tag says you're from the UAE, and Netflix isn't allowed to stream Galaxy Quest to users in the UAE, Netflix will refuse to serve it to you. This is where the proxy comes in. A proxy is a computer that makes a request to Netflix on your behalf. When the proxy reads the request, Netflix reads its name tag instead of yours, and says "Oh, you're an American, of course you can watch Galaxy Quest, enjoy!" So how can they detect a proxy? With those name tags. They have more information on them than country of origin, and Netflix can look at a name tag that it knows is a proxy and say "Oh hell no, you give my shit out to the UAE and Romania and a whole slew of other countries I'm not allowed to give this out to, you don't get anything." How does it know it's a proxy? Well, usually, someone snitches, but Netflix is probably also smart enough to notice that the request is coming from a VPS from "us-based-vpses.net" and take an educated guess from there.[/QUOTE] Ok I fully understand all of that already. I don't think you fully understood what my comment was getting at. Firstly they shouldn't be using 'proxy' as terminology because there are also HTTP proxies which are an ancient story. They cannot detect a 'proxy'/VPS unless they are really really dedicated; from what I've read they just have a list of shitty VPN services that they block. If you use a VPS server from a more unknown provider you're pretty much not going to get blocked. I've used dozens of VPS services for dozens of region restricted services and never been blocked or refused on any of them. [editline]16th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Levelog;49541360]That isn't true though. All that really matters is who the IP is registered under with ARIN.[/QUOTE] It depends. I've probably rented 20-30 VPS servers over the past few years. A handful had a large hosts information on WHOIS, A handful had their own companies information on WHOIS and a very small handful (because I requested more IP addresses) actually used my own information on WHOIS

am i the only one that can't use Smartflix? i swear they might have cracked them down

The Netherlands won't have the full selection till 2017 or 2018. There are fuck all options now, it's either do some scruples things or watch the 25th rerun of friends this year.

What... That means I'll pretty much have no films or shows to watch anymore then...

I literally just re subbed to netflix a few days ago as I figured out how to get american netflix, now this happens. So freaking annoying. They have so many shows i want to watch.

You all need to relax a bit though. We have no clue at all on how effective this method will be, if even really effective at all beyond the most popular proxies.

I can't access american netflix, i get the proxy warning :( [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] HOW CAN I RELAX WHEN I'M MISSING OUT ON ALL 10 SEASONS OF FRIENDS GOD DAMN IT

[QUOTE=ratman;49549542]I can't access american netflix, i get the proxy warning :( [editline]17th January 2016[/editline] HOW CAN I RELAX WHEN I'M MISSING OUT ON ALL 10 SEASONS OF FRIENDS GOD DAMN IT[/QUOTE] What provider did you use for your VPN/VPS?

[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;49550444]What provider did you use for your VPN/VPS?[/QUOTE] I use ZenMate extension for chrome.

[QUOTE=ratman;49550569]I use ZenMate extension for chrome.[/QUOTE] "The easiest way to stay secure and private online while accessing the content you love" Its pretty much advertised as being a way to bypass content restriction which is why it would be one of the first services to stop working.

Yeah, I can't complain really. I just really love TV shows that you yanks have access to!

Well obviously this isn't something Netflix is pushing, they have to do it to please the big producers. So even if this does go through I will keep my Netflix subscription, but I will pirate the shows that aren't available if I have to. I don't give a fuck, I'm paying for the content that I feel entitled to and I will get my hands on it one wether they like it or not. As it is I'm paying for the idea of Netflix, because I hope that it can be THE place for movies and TV shows to be stored in the future, it's one of these areas where a monopoly would actually benefit us. Right now you have to pay for Netflix, amazon, HBO go, hulu and more and you're still not going to get access to some things you may want to watch.

I'm really lucky that my sister let us keep mooching off her netflix account after she moved out.

It's happening to some users in Canada/Australia already [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/68dBTaO.png[/thumb]

still working here, thank god yeah i'm 100% canceling if it gets here too, and i won't hesitate to sub back if the movie companies start thinking properly and license for real