Today in History: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters
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As fun as it is to use I think i'll be sticking to Windows, and don't call me a fanboy because i'm not i just really like Windows.
Posting from Fedora 15. I'd prefer Debian, but I really wanted Gnome 3.
I would use Gentoo or Mint full-time but dual-booting is a pain.
I think the reason why people think Linux was meant for desktop OS usage is because of the Linux zealots on other forums who think Windows and OSX should be wiped off the face of the planet and all the discs and hdd's of it destroyed.
I mean this one guy on a forum I used to go to bragged that he doesn't have have Windows and just uses Arch. When asked about games, he said he played on xbox 360 to avoid Windows :downs:
I only run Windows on my main desktop, because all I do is surf the web, consume media and play games (games being the breaking point).
But my laptop? Linux.
The machines I use as servers? Just switched the last one from Windows Server to Linux.
Phone? Android.
I use Arch Linux as my primary OS, and run Windows in some VMs. It works way better for me than Windows.
I generally steer clear of touching Windows. I don't hate it, I just find it really difficult and hard to work with, as if it's trying to stop me from getting work done.
I do hate Microsoft though, mainly for doing illegal activities and creating a monopoly to further their business.
I do, however, dislike uninformed Linux bashers.
[QUOTE=MIPS;31947074]Me, AT&T, Sun, Silicon Graphics, DIGITAL, NeXT, and IBM would like to present Linux with a cake to mark this wonderful day.
You completely undermined the minicomputer and supercomputer OS market and replaced closed-ended but highly optimized operating systems with a quick and dirty kernel that was made to run on everything but not optimized at all and opened every door, flooding the industry with redundant and poorly coded applications.
Edit: Yes. Rate me dumb. I have no love for Linux at all. The bottom line is that Linux survived so long because assholes don't want to pay for a REAL operating system like Z/OS, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, and System V.[/QUOTE]
That post alone is completely wrong, full of irony, and just in general stupid.
Seriously, almost /everything/ in that post is wrong.
Windows 7 on my desktop, but only because of gaming and Photoshop (Ugh, tried GIMP.) and Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop. I like it because it's so easy to customize, and so lightweight that it's perfect for what I need on my laptop (Porn.).
I've only touched on using it lightly but I loved every second that I had with it.
Isn't Linux just some easymode halfwayhouse for people too hip to use Windows and not serious enough to to learn a UNIX based system?
[QUOTE=Sh33p;31976358]Isn't Linux just some easymode halfwayhouse for people too hip to use Windows and not serious enough to to learn a UNIX based system?[/QUOTE]
Linux is a Unix based system.
(But is not derived from any Unix code!)
[QUOTE=Sh33p;31976358]Isn't Linux just some easymode halfwayhouse for people too hip to use Windows and not serious enough to to learn a UNIX based system?[/QUOTE]
No, only Ubuntu is.
[QUOTE=jA_cOp;31976457]Linux is a Unix based system.
(But is not derived from any Unix code!)[/QUOTE]
No, it looks like Unix to the idle observer, making it Unix-like. But the OS it was originally styled after was itself a Unix-like and not actually based on Unix. Then Torvalds was extremely careful to get rid of all code that could be construed to look like it was from Unix. Once you skip to now, there are so many differences that saying Linux is Unix-based is just wrong.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;31973668]I think the reason why people think Linux was meant for desktop OS usage is because of the Linux zealots on other forums who think Windows and OSX should be wiped off the face of the planet and all the discs and hdd's of it destroyed.
I mean this one guy on a forum I used to go to bragged that he doesn't have have Windows and just uses Arch. When asked about games, he said he played on xbox 360 to avoid Windows :downs:[/QUOTE]
As hard to believe as it may be, there are lots of people who don't play video games, PC or otherwise.
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[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;31977224]No, it looks like Unix to the idle observer, making it Unix-like. But the OS it was originally styled after was itself a Unix-like and not actually based on Unix. Then Torvalds was extremely careful to get rid of all code that could be construed to look like it was from Unix. Once you skip to now, there are so many differences that saying Linux is Unix-based is just wrong.[/QUOTE]
I would argue that Linux is the de-facto Unix system even if it isn't exactly Unix.
I mean yeah, there is FreeBSD which is Unix, but Linux has become so much more widely used.
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Comparing Linux to a historical Unix is kind of pointless anyway.
Linux basically [b]is[/b] the modern incarnation of Unix.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;31977224]No, it looks like Unix to the idle observer, making it Unix-like. But the OS it was originally styled after was itself a Unix-like and not actually based on Unix. Then Torvalds was extremely careful to get rid of all code that could be construed to look like it was from Unix. Once you skip to now, there are so many differences that saying Linux is Unix-based is just wrong.[/QUOTE]
I used "Unix-based" as "Unix-like".
Googling "Unix based operating system" gives me the Unix wikipedia article highlighting the "Free [b]Unix-like[/b] operating systems" section.
I would gladly switch to linux if I could sync my zune with it
Only reason I'm not Linux full-time is because of video games.
Everything else has a functional equivalent in Linux, but there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to play Fallout or Just Cause 2 without a Windows partition.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;31977432]I would argue that Linux is the de-facto Unix system even if it isn't exactly Unix.
I mean yeah, there is FreeBSD which is Unix, but Linux has become so much more widely used.
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Comparing Linux to a historical Unix is kind of pointless anyway.
Linux basically [b]is[/b] the modern incarnation of Unix.[/QUOTE]
Just saying, OSX is the modern incarnation of Unix.
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It's SUSv3 compliant. I don't care how many dumbs you throw at me, it's Unix.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;31980488]Just saying, OSX is the modern incarnation of Unix.[/QUOTE]
OS X is the modern incarnation of Mac OS. It's just based off Unix at the core.
Isn't Mac OS a bunch of pieces from different versions of FreeBSD?
[QUOTE=Sanius;31983640]Isn't Mac OS a bunch of pieces from different versions of FreeBSD?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but they have modified it enough to stick out, like closed source development.
the darwin kernel that powers mac os x is open source, just the application layers are closed
I use Ubuntu whenever I want to do any programming etc, I love the automated package management, easy access to a powerful command line and the fact that it is free (open) software.
I use Windows for games though, but that is really the only reason, though it is a big one.
Linux pretty much powers most of the worlds computing systems, so it has hardly lost any OS wars.
[QUOTE=adam1172;31960144]I've used Linux, overall it was great but I'm just too used to Windows.
My mom said surfing the web on the Linux computer is way faster. Not sure if I can prove that.[/QUOTE]
Both of my partitions run at the same speed.
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;31980488]Just saying, OSX is the modern incarnation of Unix.
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It's SUSv3 compliant. I don't care how many dumbs you throw at me, it's Unix.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but if someone mentions Unix they usually aren't referring to OS X even though it's closer to the historical Unix than Linux is.
You can almost interchangeably refer to Linux as Unix or Linux.
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