[QUOTE=wauterboi;49230370]I'm just commenting about the aggressiveness of your first post. I'm all for disagreeing with others but trying to put a, "haha told you so" spin on it is pompous and defensive over nothing
No one even brought up rehabilitation until you posted about it, and I haven't seen a "rehab" post in a long while - at least not within the context of ISIS/terrorists.[/QUOTE]
this is nothing to do with 'haha i told you so'
the problem was that nearly anyone suggesting anything other than bombing and military action was labelled as a head-in-the-clouds idealist who are also possibly sympthasing with ISIS, when it's nothing to do with that, and everything to do with not repeating the past (as this DAESH hostage understands). This was the case in the paris thread and many other threads on the subject ([URL]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1493792[/URL])
and please, commenting on aggressiveness is one thing but making a self-righteous 'but I appreciate...' post when you didn't even read my post properly
Everything this guy says just annoys me, we absolutely can keep blasting the shit out of daesh until the cows come home, we have the means and know-how to do it and honestly somebody has to manufacture those bombs so it's likely good for the economy somewhere. I think we should avoid putting a lot of troops in the region because we're not socially or economically prepared for that and, really, the job is better done by letting the locals win it for themselves with our help. I absolutely think we should go in and help rebuild though, to keep the place stable and functional and this time without the hamfisted bullshit that doomed us to what we have now.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;49230244]Armies cost money. Fuel, Ammunition, Supplies, all these things, cost money. A large amount of money. Occupation Armies cost EVEN MORE money.
It's a completely valid question. Who the fuck is paying for this? Because this is going to cost trillions of dollars, trillions that could be spent improving ones own country, rather than sending it over seas in the form of equipment that could very well be turned into scrap metal.
There's no such thing as altruism in the large scale, at the end of the day, people need to get something out of the exchange, and it needs to be roughly of equivalent value. Even the humanitarian missions undertaken by larger countries, are generally undertaken with an understanding that by doing so, they're improving political standings with the smaller country.[/QUOTE]All valid points, but,
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;49230244]Nothing is ever done simply because "its right".[/QUOTE]There's always a first time for everything, but this isn't so much about what's right or wrong but instead about ensuring global security. We're at the crux of something big right now, we could potentially deflate an entire ideology if we play our cards right by stabilizing the Middle East and supporting them. They need to ground themselves with something more permanent and less atrocious than tinpot regimes that have been the dominating force since the British and French left, a throwback to the Ottoman times.
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