Australian Penalty Rates slashed for Sundays and Public Holidays, affecting a ton of workers - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Tasm;51862489]And they also introduced tax cuts for large corporations too 👍[/QUOTE] Hey, ever heard of trickle down economy? When the rich person earns 20% more money, they will look at their swiss bank account and tell themselves "Gee i got so much money, I gotta give it to other people instead of buying my third Ferrari"

[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51864189]Hey, ever heard of trickle down economy? When the rich person earns 20% more money, they will look at their swiss bank account and tell themselves "Gee i got so much money, I gotta give it to other people instead of buying my third Ferrari"[/QUOTE] When you take a shit, the bacteria that eats it thanks you for being a "job creator."

[QUOTE=BF;51862595]That's a huge assumption you're making. Not a baseless assumption, but I could just as easily argue that the unions, such as the SDA, will not let the companies get away with negotiating for lower penalty rates. Don't forget that EBAs are negotiated between the unions, representing the employees, and the employers. The fact is, we don't know what will happen when the EBAs come up for renegotiation. Some might stick with their older penalty rate structure, but others might mirror the structure of the new industry award. [editline]23rd February 2017[/editline] Our enterprise bargaining agreement (one of my two jobs is at Coles, too) comes up for renegotiation in May I believe, as that's when the current EBA expires. But I don't expect for any cuts to happen, because the renegotiation would be in the shadow of the news of this change to the industry award; everyone in Australia would have their eyes on Coles. There isn't much room for cutting anyways; the penalty rates of our EBA are close to the new award's rates. Working on Sundays we get 150%, which is the same as the new award (the rate was 200% in the old award - so Coles employees were actually worse off compared to non-EBA workers covered by the old award). We still get 250% for working on public holidays, which is the same as the old award, but the rate for the new award is 225%. But again, we're covered by an EBA, which overrides the new award.[/QUOTE] Lol you are such a naive fool. It's not an assumption that they will adapt to the award, it's going to happen, full stop. Also do you realize most unions are fucking useless? They don't care about workers and haven't for a long time.

[QUOTE=Tasm;51867483]Lol you are such a naive fool. It's not an assumption that they will adapt to the award, it's going to happen, full stop. Also do you realize most unions are fucking useless? They don't care about workers and haven't for a long time.[/QUOTE] lol 'they will adapt to the award'. So why is the base wage in my EBA 25% higher than the base wage in the award? Hasn't done very much adapting to the award, I don't think.

[QUOTE=BF;51862595]That's a huge assumption you're making. Not a baseless assumption, but I could just as easily argue that the unions, such as the SDA, will not let the companies get away with negotiating for lower penalty rates. Don't forget that EBAs are negotiated between the unions, representing the employees, and the employers. The fact is, we don't know what will happen when the EBAs come up for renegotiation. Some might stick with their older penalty rate structure, but others might mirror the structure of the new industry award. [editline]23rd February 2017[/editline] Our enterprise bargaining agreement (one of my two jobs is at Coles, too) comes up for renegotiation in May I believe, as that's when the current EBA expires. But I don't expect for any cuts to happen, because the renegotiation would be in the shadow of the news of this change to the industry award; everyone in Australia would have their eyes on Coles. There isn't much room for cutting anyways; the penalty rates of our EBA are close to the new award's rates. Working on Sundays we get 150%, which is the same as the new award (the rate was 200% in the old award - so Coles employees were actually worse off compared to non-EBA workers covered by the old award). We still get 250% for working on public holidays, which is the same as the old award, but the rate for the new award is 225%. But again, we're covered by an EBA, which overrides the new award.[/QUOTE] If the SDA is your union, you are fucked. The SDA is literally just a front for employers to donate to ideological causes and gives absolutely no defence to retail workers anymore at all [editline]24th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Tasm;51867483]Lol you are such a naive fool. It's not an assumption that they will adapt to the award, it's going to happen, full stop. Also do you realize most unions are fucking useless? They don't care about workers and haven't for a long time.[/QUOTE] Don't paint with a broad brush. There are still many unions out there that provide hugely robust defences for heir industries. Unfortunately the industry that needs it most - retail - has the most corrupt union. [editline]24th February 2017[/editline] Also you'd be hard pressed to find a hairdressers or hospitality place covered by an EBA and their awards are getting cut too [editline]24th February 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=BF;51867501]lol 'they will adapt to the award'. So why is the base wage in my EBA 25% higher than the base wage in the award? Hasn't done very much adapting to the award, I don't think.[/QUOTE] Just because you're lucky enough to work in a company that can afford to pay you a little more than the absolute minimum requirement doesn't mean we should conclude this cut is nothing to be frightened of

[QUOTE=BF;51867501]lol 'they will adapt to the award'. So why is the base wage in my EBA 25% higher than the base wage in the award? Hasn't done very much adapting to the award, I don't think.[/QUOTE] Because you're lucky. There's a LOT of people struggling on the minimum. And when the eba gets renewed on most companies they will embrace these cuts. Don't act like a measly EBA will protect you, or you're just an idiot