9/11 Widowerreturns Glamour's "Woman of the Year Reward" because of Caitlyn Jenner - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sableye;49130759]that joke isn't even funny though, its just really derogatory, ya this whole season has been some giant PC conspiracy but that joke fell flat every time they used it[/QUOTE] Yeah, how dare they. Caitlyn Jenner is stunning and brave.

Jenner isn't brave and her getting awards is stupid.

[QUOTE=Sableye;49130759]that joke isn't even funny though, its just really derogatory, ya this whole season has been some giant PC conspiracy but that joke fell flat every time they used it[/QUOTE] Pretty sure this season is all about making fun of extreme PC, I mean c'mon, PC Principal?

[QUOTE=Sableye;49130759]that joke isn't even funny though, its just really derogatory, ya this whole season has been some giant PC conspiracy but that joke fell flat every time they used it[/QUOTE] Maybe you're too pc for the jokes to work?

what I don't get is why everyone is up in arms about an award given by Glamour Magazine

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49130747]Nothing, but is anything else necessary? She helps contribute to the social acceptance of transgendered women by being successful and accepted herself. She's a household name for transgendered people. It's representation.[/QUOTE] Pretty sad when transgendered big role model is a rich Beverly hill living murderer whos pretty nuts. No Kardashians are role models at this point.

[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;49132690]Pretty sad when transgendered big role model is a rich Beverly hill living murderer whos pretty nuts. No Kardashians are role models at this point.[/QUOTE] If I had to chose a trans role model Laverne Cox would be my choice, she's really good for representation and is a good trans activist.

Everyone will jump to call him a transphobic bitch but Jenner fucking killed someone and doesn't deserve an award or sympathy. She fucking killed someone and gets away with it for being rich, famous, and under a great deal of media sympathy.

[QUOTE=thrawn2787;49130536]also jenner got away with murder[/QUOTE] and dislikes gay people, thinking they shouldn't be allowed to marry. [editline]17th November 2015[/editline] I don't understand why Transpeople hold her up. She did what some of you did but had the protection of millions of dollars.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49133269] She fucking killed someone and gets away with it for being rich, famous, and under a great deal of media sympathy.[/QUOTE] I would argue that for this reason she became transgender. He knew that this was a hot topic these days getting tons of sympathy and media attention, what better way to divert everybodies attention and get them on your side than 'coming out as transgender'.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;49133493]I would argue that for this reason she became transgender. He knew that this was a hot topic these days getting tons of sympathy and media attention, what better way to divert everybodies attention and get them on your side than 'coming out as transgender'.[/QUOTE] There's a striking amount of truth to this when you consider how half-assed her attempts at transitioning were. She's doing more harm than good to Trans people, honestly. Whenever the topic of Caitlyn comes up everyone I know just considers her a freak and assumes most other Trans people are like that. [editline]17th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49133269]Everyone will jump to call him a transphobic bitch but Jenner fucking killed someone and doesn't deserve an award or sympathy. She fucking killed someone and gets away with it for being rich, famous, and under a great deal of media sympathy.[/QUOTE] Not only did she kill somebody, but she got an award for it. And now she's getting called "Woman of the Year," calling her accomplishments equal to that of a mother that tried to save people in the September 11th attacks.

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;49130210]What a dick, how dare he return an honour to his late wife just because he doesn't like transgenders.[/QUOTE] I agree. I don't see how if someone else gets an award, I get to reject it. It's not for me, it's for that other person. So this guy's wife was honored. He merely accepted on her behalf. It's not his honor, so it's not his to reject. He's just trying to make himself out to be more important than he is and using his dead wife to do it. Ugh.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;49133791]Not only did she kill somebody, but she got an award for it.[/QUOTE] I'm Googling around and found these articles: [url]http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-manslaughter-charge-caitlyn-jenner-20150820-story.html[/url] [url]http://www.people.com/article/caitlyn-jenner-mourns-murdered-transgender-women-india-clarke-kc-haggard[/url] Where is she getting an award for murder?

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49133296]and dislikes gay people, thinking they shouldn't be allowed to marry. [editline]17th November 2015[/editline] I don't understand why Transpeople hold her up. She did what some of you did but had the protection of millions of dollars.[/QUOTE] From what I've seen it's not the trans community that's holding her up, it's cis people who want to seem compassionate about trans issues without actually doing anything.

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49130747]Nothing, but is anything else necessary? She helps contribute to the social acceptance of transgendered women by being successful and accepted herself. She's a household name for transgendered people. It's representation.[/QUOTE] There are dozens of better options then a rich person who stands nothing to lose by coming out as transgendered (also murdered a person).

[QUOTE=kitthehacker;49137215]From what I've seen it's not the trans community that's holding her up, it's cis people who want to seem compassionate about trans issues without actually doing anything.[/QUOTE] I've seen trans people her up as an icon.

[QUOTE=amute;49139648]There are dozens of better options then a rich person who stands nothing to lose by coming out as transgendered (also murdered a person).[/QUOTE] Question: do you have a problem with rich people? If so, what is it? Because rich people are still people. It really sounds like people are saying, "Hey, she doesn't count because she had money before she came out."

[QUOTE=wauterboi;49139794]Question: do you have a problem with rich people? If so, what is it? Because rich people are still people. It really sounds like people are saying, "Hey, she doesn't count because she had money before she came out."[/QUOTE] Because if you're rich it can hardly be called a struggle. What will they do, go cry on their 100$ bills?

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49139836]Because if you're rich it can hardly be called a struggle. What will they do, go cry on their 100$ bills?[/QUOTE] you have literally no understanding of how depression and/or body dysphoria works and it shows blatantly. Don't dehumanize a person or their struggles just because they have more money than you.

[QUOTE=Dalndox;49139851]you have literally no understanding of how depression and/or body dysphoria works and it shows blatantly. Don't dehumanize a person or their struggles just because they have more money than you.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but when you got money almost every issue becomes a non issue. As a rich trans person you can easily afford all the treatment. How is that a struggle compared to someone poor with that problem? For you to claim that I have no understanding of depression is just idiotic, you don't know what sort of experience I've had with depression. You can disagree with me but to claim I do not understand just makes you look bad.

Bruce is a douche and I refuse to call him a her.

[QUOTE=Dalndox;49139851]you have literally no understanding of how depression and/or body dysphoria works and it shows blatantly. Don't dehumanize a person or their struggles just because they have more money than you.[/QUOTE] don't worry I won't. she still killed a woman when she was a man.

innocent until proven guilty

[QUOTE=Judas;49139932]innocent until proven guilty[/QUOTE] Well there was enough circumstantial evidence when that car accident happened to BRING Jenner up on charges of manslaughter, but the DA dropped the case. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/caitlyn-jenner-won-face-felony-charges-crash-report-article-1.2290313[/url] Had it gone to trial, I do wonder how it would have played out, if she would have been guilty or not. She still has a civil suit at hand from the family of the woman killed by Jenner, so there is a possibility she could lose this case.

[QUOTE=itisjuly;49139861]For you to claim that I have no understanding of depression is just idiotic, you don't know what sort of experience I've had with depression. You can disagree with me but to claim I do not understand just makes you look bad.[/QUOTE] And here you are, saying that for her it can "hardly be called a struggle" whilst having no idea what sort of experience she's had (behind the scenes, before you get any ideas). The irony is palpable.

I think the idea is that it's kind of a double edged sword, on some levels seeing someone relatable and famous as transgender might get it out of the public conscious as "oh those freaks" but on the other hand she now sets the bar for what is an "Acceptable" transperson. It's still baby steps for public awareness but in mixed directions in different ways

[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49140583]I think the idea is that it's kind of a double edged sword, on some levels seeing someone relatable and famous as transgender might get it out of the public conscious as "oh those freaks" but on the other hand she now sets the bar for what is an "Acceptable" transperson. It's still baby steps for public awareness but in mixed directions in different ways[/QUOTE] She killed someone. How does that get swept away so easily for so many people

[QUOTE=evlbzltyr;49132193]what I don't get is why everyone is up in arms about an award given by Glamour Magazine[/QUOTE] Because it's saying "because this person completely took one side in hot button article, they are the best person ever despite being culpable in the death of another human being through negligence in addition to being a homophobe." Jenner doesn't consider herself to be a lesbian though. Yes this person deserves an award for being such a badass role model, that the women and gay men whom regularly buy glamour can look up to.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;49140597]She killed someone. How does that get swept away so easily for so many people[/QUOTE] Speaking for myself, people 'kill someone' all the time but we don't consider them evil personified. There can be extenuating circumstances, such as if it were an accident. I am not aware that this was ruled anything other than a traffic accident. If I have that wrong then I'd appreciate being enlightened.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;49140968]Speaking for myself, people 'kill someone' all the time but we don't consider them evil personified. There can be extenuating circumstances, such as if it were an accident. I am not aware that this was ruled anything other than a traffic accident. If I have that wrong then I'd appreciate being enlightened.[/QUOTE] She, unlike myself, or even yourself, killed someone in a traffic accident, and didn't face ANY responsibility for that. I know for a fact she faced different treatment than a regular person would who also killed someone under the exact same circumstances.