Rumor: Mass Effect 3 "The Truth" DLC Brings Along New Endings, Multiplayer Classes, and More. - Polidicks

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So the ending only let you choose from three colored explosions, right? If so that is outright lazy.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;35159601]Imagine if Valve had done that with Half-Life 2. They'd pretty much have sunk their company.[/QUOTE] What? They did a distinctly yellow ending and they even moved it to EP1 to boot! [editline]16th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Recurracy;35160399]So the ending only let you choose from three colored explosions, right? If so that is outright lazy.[/QUOTE] People aren't even exaggerating when you say that!

One does not simply fix an ending because the fans didn't like it. Just imagine Star Wars Episode 1 getting re-released with an altered ending in which the old guy doesn't die at the end as an attempt to make the fans like the movie more. Or some book that got it's ending altered in the 2nd edition to make it more popular. Bioware has already screwed this up and they won't fix it this easily.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;35159379]if it is true, Bioware are geniuses at marketing by making fans pay for the true ending.[/QUOTE] Asshole geniuses [editline]16th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=VistaPOWA;35160808]One does not simply fix an ending because the fans didn't like it. Just imagine Star Wars Episode 1 getting re-released with an altered ending in which the old guy doesn't die at the end as an attempt to make the fans like the movie more. Or some book that got it's ending altered in the 2nd edition to make it more popular.[/QUOTE] If George Lucas listened to the fans (redlettermedia) and released an altered Episode 1 it would be the best thing ever.

[SPOILER]Now, I haven't played any of the ME's, but this text seems to make the endings have a deeper meaning than what you saw. Like I said, I have no idea what the hell he is talking about because I've never played this. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yyF8K.png[/img]

[QUOTE=gottifour;35161119][SPOILER][img]http://i.imgur.com/yyF8K.png[/img][/QUOTE] So instead of shipping with a bad ending, they shipped with no ending. That's fucking stupid. Gotta love the comment at the end, "This ending is amazing"? No it isn't. It's people grasping at straws because Bioware gave us shit. Their main argument basically boils down to, "Even Bioware couldn't have fucked it up this badly, it must've been intentional!" Even if it is somehow true, we're now assuming Bioware shipped the game with no ending and intend to release it months later, which is fucking bullshit.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;35159379]if it is true, Bioware are geniuses at marketing by making fans pay for the true ending.[/QUOTE] Hell no, others might follow suite in "pay to unlock the real ending!!!" "All that content, and this might as well be labeled an expansion pack. And it’s free." Ok good I would have jumped off my roof, I probably wouldn't die, but at least the pain would take my mind off how bad of an idea that would have been. I don't want to live in a world where you have to pay 10-20 extra just to unlock the full game

[QUOTE=gottifour;35161119][SPOILER]Now, I haven't played any of the ME's, but this text seems to make the endings have a deeper meaning than what you saw. Like I said, I have no idea what the hell he is talking about because I've never played this. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yyF8K.png[/img][/QUOTE] Denial and negotiation is a lovely thing. No, the ending just is what it is. A bad ending that leaves a lot of things open. It's not some elaborate plot, and no, you're not the one to figure out what it REALLY means.

That's quite a novel idea for the ending, To bad it probably isn't true and Bioware not dispelling it is them blatantly letting people draw pictures in the dark to make them seem more intelligent and deep then they actually are or they would have had an ending, a full ending, explaining this. Tell me this, if they're so good a weaving things in like that without actually telling you point blank, why do they bash you over the head with interactions with Homosexual characters that have as much nuance and subtlety as cutting butter with a battle-axe? they are REALLY badly written one note distractions. [editline]16th March 2012[/editline] Lets also not forget the appallingly stupid explanation that "Harbinger" gives you for why the Reapers come back into the galactic neighborhood and fuck everything over every 50,000 years. [sp]so the masterfully thought out plan to stop synthetics from destroying organics is... to let that happen[/sp] Fan-fucking-tastic work Bioware.

[QUOTE=gottifour;35161119][SPOILER]Now, I haven't played any of the ME's, but this text seems to make the endings have a deeper meaning than what you saw. Like I said, I have no idea what the hell he is talking about because I've never played this. [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/yyF8K.png[/thumb][/QUOTE] While that's a good use of what we know about the ending, you could explain away any bad ending to anything ever with that kind of over-analysis ([url=http://procrastinatorsrant.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/yesterday-was-thursday-today-it-is-friday/]Case-in-point[/url]) If Bioware actually did have something like this in mind, then massive props to them, but for the time being I wouldn't get my hopes up

[QUOTE=gottifour;35161119][SPOILER]Now, I haven't played any of the ME's, but this text seems to make the endings have a deeper meaning than what you saw. Like I said, I have no idea what the hell he is talking about because I've never played this. [img]http://i.imgur.com/yyF8K.png[/img][/QUOTE] where does this come from because I've heard (again, from unsourced shit) that bioware straight up said "nope shep ain't indoctinated" to this notion

Fake. [sp]Shepard dies in two out of the three endings no matter how much EMS you have.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Kinversulath;35161360]So instead of shipping with a bad ending, they shipped with no ending. That's fucking stupid. Gotta love the comment at the end, "This ending is amazing"? No it isn't. It's people grasping at straws because Bioware gave us shit. Their main argument basically boils down to, "Even Bioware couldn't have fucked it up this badly, it must've been intentional!" Even if it is somehow true, we're now assuming Bioware shipped the game with no ending and intend to release it months later, which is fucking bullshit.[/QUOTE] Such bitter butthurt, jesus christ, calm your tits.

I am getting tired of all this rage and whatnot just because everyone thought the ending was bad. Hell, even if they did a better ending, SOMEONE is going to rage. And heck, this is not the first time Mass Effect allowed you to choose an ending. Mass Effect 1: Council lives or Dies, your choice. Mass Effect 2: Destroy or Keep Collector Base, your choice. Mass Effect 3: Either destroy reapers, control them, or synthesis organics and synthetics, again your choice. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoyed the synthesis ending more. Sure I didn't see the other two, but it felt more meaning to it. Prothean technology advanced humanity to live in space, and now it advanced it again by incorporating organic and synthetic technology, which if I remind you, would take thousands of years to incorporate! As for Catalyst, he may be mysterious, but it opens up questions that players would be expecting in the next trilogy. Who created the Reapers in the first place, more specifically Catalyst? And what was the reason to this creation? Like it was said, Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story, not the series. And even if Shepard lives, I doubt he would be playable in the next game.

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162019]I am getting tired of all this rage and whatnot just because everyone thought the ending was bad. Hell, even if they did a better ending, SOMEONE is going to rage. And heck, this is not the first time Mass Effect allowed you to choose an ending. Mass Effect 1: Council lives or Dies, your choice. Mass Effect 2: Destroy or Keep Collector Base, your choice. Mass Effect 3: Either destroy reapers, control them, or synthesis organics and synthetics, again your choice. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoyed the synthesis ending more. Sure I didn't see the other two, but it felt more meaning to it. Prothean technology advanced humanity to live in space, and now it advanced it again by incorporating organic and synthetic technology, which if I remind you, would take thousands of years to incorporate! As for Catalyst, he may be mysterious, but it opens up questions that players would be expecting in the next trilogy. Who created the Reapers in the first place, more specifically Catalyst? And what was the reason to this creation? Like it was said, Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story, not the series. And even if Shepard lives, I doubt he would be playable in the next game.[/QUOTE] Load your ME3 saves into the next Mass Effect game to determine if the Shepard NPC will be an asshole

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162019]I am getting tired of all this rage and whatnot just because everyone thought the ending was bad. Hell, even if they did a better ending, SOMEONE is going to rage. And heck, this is not the first time Mass Effect allowed you to choose an ending. Mass Effect 1: Council lives or Dies, your choice. Mass Effect 2: Destroy or Keep Collector Base, your choice. Mass Effect 3: Either destroy reapers, control them, or synthesis organics and synthetics, again your choice. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoyed the synthesis ending more. Sure I didn't see the other two, but it felt more meaning to it. Prothean technology advanced humanity to live in space, and now it advanced it again by incorporating organic and synthetic technology, which if I remind you, would take thousands of years to incorporate! As for Catalyst, he may be mysterious, but it opens up questions that players would be expecting in the next trilogy. Who created the Reapers in the first place, more specifically Catalyst? And what was the reason to this creation? Like it was said, Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story, not the series. And even if Shepard lives, I doubt he would be playable in the next game.[/QUOTE] Good job at missing why everyone's mad.

If this was/is true, it's the biggest cockslap in gaming history. "Hey you leaked our game, now we're going to take away your ending until we're ready."

[QUOTE=Chrille;35162089]Load your ME3 saves into the next Mass Effect game to determine if the Shepard NPC will be an asshole[/QUOTE] Perhaps, or perhaps not, depending on the time range in the game. If there is a Mass Effect 4, I am sure that Mass Effect 3 would affect Mass Effect 4. I still have a hunch that no matter what, the destruction of the Mass Relays are a major part of the series. Think of it this way, we relied on the Mass Relays instead of developing our own, and because we relied on them, we were playing into the hands of the very forces that were going to kill us. With the mass relays gone, we loose that reliability and start to take matters into our own hands. I would think that the 3 endings would affect the research of new technology, in future series with synthesis allowing us to advance at an even more rapid pace now that we have the knowledge of both synthetics and organics, for example. Still though, I enjoyed the ending for that reason, since there is a greater achievement through it. And Shepard was going to die either way in my own opinion, after barely surviving an attack by Harbringer and the Illusive Man. It would make sense that his death would bring a change or victory to the galaxy. [QUOTE=Warriorx4;35162133]Good job at missing why everyone's mad.[/QUOTE] Your right, I am missing why everyone's mad because there is no point to it! I heard countless arguments about plot holes and what not, Shepard living, wanting a good ending, and all, but they don't see the bigger picture. And the whole 'colored explosion' dare I go into the colored sun in Mass Effect 2?

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162019]I am getting tired of all this rage and whatnot just because everyone thought the ending was bad. Hell, even if they did a better ending, SOMEONE is going to rage. And heck, this is not the first time Mass Effect allowed you to choose an ending. Mass Effect 1: Council lives or Dies, your choice. Mass Effect 2: Destroy or Keep Collector Base, your choice. Mass Effect 3: Either destroy reapers, control them, or synthesis organics and synthetics, again your choice. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoyed the synthesis ending more. Sure I didn't see the other two, but it felt more meaning to it. Prothean technology advanced humanity to live in space, and now it advanced it again by incorporating organic and synthetic technology, which if I remind you, would take thousands of years to incorporate! As for Catalyst, he may be mysterious, but it opens up questions that players would be expecting in the next trilogy. Who created the Reapers in the first place, more specifically Catalyst? And what was the reason to this creation? Like it was said, Mass Effect 3 is the end of Shepard's story, not the series. And even if Shepard lives, I doubt he would be playable in the next game.[/QUOTE] First step in bad Game defensive counter-argument, make a bad reaction seem inevitable and therefore acceptable under those circumstances. "well, people are always going to hate something for some reason" No sir, We hate things because they are bad, not because we are bored and looking for fulfillment in our daily lives.

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162152] Your right, I am missing why everyone's mad because there is no point to it! I heard countless arguments about plot holes and what not, Shepard living, wanting a good ending, and all, but they don't see the bigger picture. And the whole 'colored explosion' dare I go into the colored sun in Mass Effect 2?[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;4H_A7SeawU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4[/video] [editline]16th March 2012[/editline] Educate yourself.

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162152] Your right, I am missing why everyone's mad because there is no point to it! I heard countless arguments about plot holes and what not, Shepard living, wanting a good ending, and all, but they don't see the bigger picture. And the whole 'colored explosion' dare I go into the colored sun in Mass Effect 2?[/QUOTE] what the hell are you talking about i used to not understand (to a point) why people were upset about the shit endings after only having watched one and then i watched the other two. so do that before you talk about whatever you're talking about

[QUOTE=goon165;35162185]First step in bad Game defensive counter-argument, make a bad reaction seem inevitable and therefore acceptable under those circumstances. "well, people are always going to hate something for some reason" No sir, We hate things because they are bad, not because we are bored and looking for fulfillment in our daily lives.[/QUOTE] And bad response is arguing about the bad defense counter-argument, not the point in general. And that is true in every parts, not just one part. Even if the ending is good, there will be some part of the game people don't enjoy. Say...the Mako in Mass Effect 1? And while I may not know it, there is bound to be something gamers don't like in Mass Effect 2...but that's not my point! I've seen countless fanfictions that brought a better story than what the game brought through. Could the ending be better? Yes. But there is a bit of blindness going on in terms of why it is bad aside from 'colored explosions, plot holes, and shepard dies'. If its bad, tell me why it is bad.

Dude watch the video above you and you'll know why. It's not simply because it was a bad ending.

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162229]Even if the ending is good, there will be some part of the game people don't enjoy. Say...the Mako in Mass Effect 1?[/QUOTE] There was nothing wrong with the Mako, it just handled like shit because of the crappy unreal physics. Play some lowrider music, dance around a thresher maw and up some mountains and you're perfectly used to it. Heck the M44 from ME2 was worse.

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;35162239]Dude watch the video above you and you'll know why. It's not simply because it was a bad ending.[/QUOTE] I skimmed through it since I don't got much time...and I still don't see a point. He's basically talking about all the endings being the same; everyone stranded on Earth, Mass Relays blow up, everyone is cut off, that stuff. No one knows what happened to the Normandy crew, and people are questioning why the Normandy just left at the end. Er...ya, still don't see a point since I KNOW that stuff, and I am already thinking of tons of explanations to explain those things or how it would go for the best. Also, remember that Mass Effect 4 will be complete new trilogy...and if we had each ending be different, then they had to make around 3 or 4 different versions of it. The endings are NOT supposed to be good endings! If you want Shepard to live, please, play another game. Mass Effect is all about war and sacrifice, as it was shown with the decision of Ashley and Kaiden in Mass Effect 1. Shepard sacrifices himself to fire the super weapon, we sacrifice the mass relays to stop the Reapers. What is better, living to see the next day at the cost of cutting off communication, or allowing an unstoppable enemy to steamroll over us as we try to maintain it?

[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;35159383]I want a pink ending[/QUOTE] You're in luck, found a leaked pink ending. [video=youtube;DzoJ_GQkOcY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzoJ_GQkOcY[/video]

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]I skimmed through it since I don't got much time...[/QUOTE] well that's apparently not true since your last activity was 3 minutes ago but anyway [QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]and I still don't see a point. He's basically talking about all the endings being the same;[/QUOTE] yes they're the exact same cinematic with a few very minor details changed. that's a problem. if you disagree with that you need to get your fuckin head checked [QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]everyone stranded on Earth, Mass Relays blow up, everyone is cut off, that stuff. No one knows what happened to the Normandy crew, and people are questioning why the Normandy just left at the end. Er...ya, still don't see a point since I KNOW that stuff, and I am already thinking of tons of explanations to explain those things or how it would go for the best.[/QUOTE] not that anybody should HAVE to justify this nonsensical shit after the fact but please do tell [QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]Also, remember that Mass Effect 4 will be complete new trilogy...and if we had each ending be different, then they had to make around 3 or 4 different versions of it.[/QUOTE] 1) mass effect 4?? 2) they've never had a problem creating many possible variations of the same thing depending on player decisions [QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]The endings are NOT supposed to be good endings! If you want Shepard to live, please, play another game. Mass Effect is all about war and sacrifice, as it was shown with the decision of Ashley and Kaiden in Mass Effect 1. Shepard sacrifices himself to fire the super weapon, we sacrifice the mass relays to stop the Reapers. What is better, living to see the next day at the cost of cutting off communication, or allowing an unstoppable enemy to steamroll over us as we try to maintain it?[/QUOTE] people aren't complaining about the fact that shepard dies for FUCK'S sake

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]I skimmed through it since I don't got much time...and I still don't see a point. He's basically talking about all the endings being the same; everyone stranded on Earth, Mass Relays blow up, everyone is cut off, that stuff. No one knows what happened to the Normandy crew, and people are questioning why the Normandy just left at the end. Er...ya, still don't see a point since I KNOW that stuff, and I am already thinking of tons of explanations to explain those things or how it would go for the best. Also, remember that Mass Effect 4 will be complete new trilogy...and if we had each ending be different, then they had to make around 3 or 4 different versions of it. The endings are NOT supposed to be good endings! If you want Shepard to live, please, play another game. Mass Effect is all about war and sacrifice, as it was shown with the decision of Ashley and Kaiden in Mass Effect 1. Shepard sacrifices himself to fire the super weapon, we sacrifice the mass relays to stop the Reapers. What is better, living to see the next day at the cost of cutting off communication, or allowing an unstoppable enemy to steamroll over us as we try to maintain it?[/QUOTE] None of the choices you made in the previous games matter. You get three same three ending selections as everyone else as long as you have enough EMS. You don't need to make carefully balanced decisions in the previous games, as there's enough EMS to go around if you play multiplayer. Saved the Quarians and got them Rannoch back? Too bad, the majority of the Migrant Fleet is stuck in Sol with nothing to eat. Just like the Turians, by the way. Probably half of the remaining population on Earth is gonna starve due to no colony imports and the impending nuclear winter. Oh and the colonies, oh they're pretty fucked. Those that can't be reached via FTL and that aren't self-sustaining (quite a large part) will be doomed. Let's not forget the homeworlds of other species. Palaven? Faced the largest Reaper attack and the Krogan forces waged nuclear war against the Reapers on the surface. No one is gonna be able to live there. Thessia? Most likely absolutely wrecked. It's also such a heavily industrialized world that growing something there will probably be impossible. Now let's look at the endings. Synthesis (green)? 0% change of being canon in any direct or non-direct sequels that may surface. It eliminates all conflict (no need for nourishment, galaxywide hivemind) and thus can't really be used for anything. Control (blue)? Possibly canon, but it seems unlikely that you'd be able to import your ME3 save into the next game in the universe (too many variables) as it could go either way (Paragon or Renegade). Hell, we don't even know the Catalyst was speaking the truth. Destroy (red)? Only one that has Shepard survive, but kills the Geth (saving both the Quarians and Geth is now pointless). Likeliest to be canon due to secret ending and no branching like Control. What do all of these have in common? Explosions (different colors though!), the total lack of closure (as was promised) and the gaping plot holes. I can't remember them all so I'll just use those I can. At what part does Joker pick up your squadmates from Hammer? He's supposed to be fighting in space, after all the Normandy is a very useful asset due to the stealth drives, powerful weapons and speed. While Shepard is unconscious? It seems quite unlikely that he'd be able to avoid Harbinger and then would LEAVE Shepard lying in the open. After you enter the new conduit? But that would mean Shepard didn't even bother to check if his squadmates or Anderson were alive. This especially makes no sense if your love interest was with you. How did Anderson get up to the Crucible before you? He apparently entered after you but turned invisible, ignored Shepard and ran ahead without you noticing. How does the Crucible's justification for the Reapers make any sense? The Reapers were a synthetic race apparently created to stop sentient organic species from creating a synthetic race that would wipe out all sentient organic species for good. Instead, the Reapers just wipe them out every 50,000 years and call it logic. Okay. Why not make the Reapers, I dunno, warn races of the dangers of machine intelligence, and/or destroying dangerous synthetic species of they must? Killing organics to stop someone from killing organics is incredibly backwards. The Reapers sure are beyond my comprehension because this makes no fucking sense. And what is this horseshit about "the created always destroying the creators"? All the examples of "violent" AI so far in Mass Effect has been a case of self defense. The Geth drove the Quarians out, but never tried to exterminate them although it would have been easy. If you did things right, they're now working together (unless you pick Destroy lol). EDI loves a disgusting sweaty and hairy mammalian vertebrate despite that the Catalyst says that they're supposed to be mortal enemies. Why is Joker jumping away, with the teleported squadmates, away from the battle? He is in transit while the Catalyst pulse follows him which means he left BEFORE the Crucible fired. Why leave when you're most needed? There's a terrible lack closure for any characters we've grown to like or civilizations we're interested in, and the game ultimately doesn't answer almost any long-standing questions. Finally, Shepard's personality in the ending. Why does Shepard buy everything the Catalyst says without a moment's thought? Shepard is always the one to argue, to question. Now he just blindly accepts that these three extremely shitty options are all that he has. If the Catalyst is what is ultimately guiding the Reapers, wouldn't it try to do everything in its power to keep the cycle progressing and defend itself? Wouldn't it at least lie? What reason does Shepard have to trust it? Oh, and why the [I]fuck[/I] is Shepard waking up on [I]Earth[/I] (wind, concrete rubble) after the Citadel supposedly explodes in the Destroy ending? [editline]16th March 2012[/editline] Oh yeah and no one gives a shit that Shepard can die, I think that was to be expected.

[QUOTE=Neo222;35162330]I skimmed through it since I don't got much time...and I still don't see a point. He's basically talking about all the endings being the same; everyone stranded on Earth, Mass Relays blow up, everyone is cut off, that stuff. No one knows what happened to the Normandy crew, and people are questioning why the Normandy just left at the end. Er...ya, still don't see a point since I KNOW that stuff, and I am already thinking of tons of explanations to explain those things or how it would go for the best. Also, remember that Mass Effect 4 will be complete new trilogy...and if we had each ending be different, then they had to make around 3 or 4 different versions of it. The endings are NOT supposed to be good endings! If you want Shepard to live, please, play another game. Mass Effect is all about war and sacrifice, as it was shown with the decision of Ashley and Kaiden in Mass Effect 1. Shepard sacrifices himself to fire the super weapon, we sacrifice the mass relays to stop the Reapers. What is better, living to see the next day at the cost of cutting off communication, or allowing an unstoppable enemy to steamroll over us as we try to maintain it?[/QUOTE] How can you defend that ending? it was atrocious.