• Israeli universities accused of anti-Zionism
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Are jews a nation? Also, BurnEmDown's new avatar distracted me for a minute, I didn't recoqnize him at first.
We are.
Nation or not, jews do not deserve that land. Even if they did, they sure don't right now. [editline]07:57PM[/editline] Nazi 2.0
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24388593]We are.[/QUOTE] You're as much of a nation as the children in the playground with their 'No girls allowed' clubs. [editline]09:00PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24388421]Are you a nation?[/QUOTE] Yeah I fucking am. I'll get together some friends and steal some land from innocent people, rape some woman. And there, I'll be just as good of a nation as the sad fucking excuse for a nation that Israel pretends to be.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24388804]You're as much of a nation as the children in the playground with their 'No girls allowed' clubs. [editline]09:00PM[/editline] Yeah I fucking am. I'll get together some friends and steal some land from innocent people, rape some woman. And there, I'll be just as good of a nation as the sad fucking excuse for a nation that Israel pretends to be.[/QUOTE] Can I join?
[QUOTE=Sickle;24388804]You're as much of a nation as the children in the playground with their 'No girls allowed' clubs. [editline]09:00PM[/editline] Yeah I fucking am. I'll get together some friends and steal some land from innocent people, rape some woman. And there, I'll be just as good of a nation as the sad fucking excuse for a nation that Israel pretends to be.[/QUOTE] I don't know, to be a nation you need to first be an ethnicity. Do you share common ancestry, language, culture, and/or heritage with those friends? If so, and you also seek self-determination, then talk to the UN about it, they handle these sorts of things.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24389419]I don't know, to be a nation you need to first be an ethnicity. Do you share common ancestry, [B]language[/B], culture, and/or heritage with those friends? If so, and you also seek self-determination, then talk to the UN about it, they handle these sorts of things.[/QUOTE] Yep English. Now I deserve my own country, support from America, nukes, nuclear power, and my very own oppressive jail. [editline]09:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeldy;24388854]Can I join?[/QUOTE] Yes.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24389505]Yep English. Now I deserve my own country, support from America, nukes, nuclear power, and my very own oppressive jail. [editline]09:38PM[/editline] Yes.[/QUOTE] If you think you can make the cut then as I said go present your case to the UN and they'll decide whether you're a nation or not.
[QUOTE=JDK721;24365872]Conservatives generally have a viewpoint that completely disregards reality.[/QUOTE] That's a stereotypical conservative who is a devout Christian Catholic and would rather be spending money on wars instead of schools. There are many good conservative politicians who actually focus on capitalism.
[QUOTE=Sickle;24389505]Yep English. Now I deserve my own country, support from America, nukes, nuclear power, and my very own oppressive jail. [editline]09:38PM[/editline] Yes.[/QUOTE] I am ready do do thine bidding, milord.
Can anyone say KGB...or McCarthy?
[QUOTE=Swilly;24393243]Can anyone say KGB...or McCarthy?[/QUOTE] K... G... C. Nope. McCarthrgfif. Nah.
[QUOTE=Aman V;24365602]There is a difference between patriotism, and being a fanatic. I don't think some people in Israel [i]And America[/i]get that.[/QUOTE] Fixed. [quote](User was banned for this post ("Endorsing racism" - birkett))[/quote] :cawg::w00t: Bye Mingus! Pity it's not a perma! I have a new favorite mod!
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;24396797]:cawg::w00t: Bye Mingus! Pity it's not a perma! I have a new favorite mod![/QUOTE] he was perma banned by TH89 earlier today
[QUOTE=Jeep-Eep;24396797]Fixed. :cawg::w00t: Bye Mingus! Pity it's not a perma! I have a new favorite mod![/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure I perma'd that guy. [editline]07:45PM[/editline] E:f,b [editline]07:49PM[/editline] Also Jews might need their own state but we have one now, and uprooting millions of people all over again because you don't think they "deserve" the land is just going to cause more trouble.
[QUOTE=TH89;24412841]I'm pretty sure I perma'd that guy. [editline]07:45PM[/editline] E:f,b [editline]07:49PM[/editline] Also Jews might need their own state but we have one now, and uprooting millions of people all over again because you don't think they "deserve" the land is just going to cause more trouble.[/QUOTE] Everyone acknowledges it's too late now. Sad the Zionists didn't care how many would be expelled and massacred as long as they get their own state.
It's great when people complain about how liberal colleges are. I guess reality is liberally biased, huh?
[QUOTE=TH89;24412841]I'm pretty sure I perma'd that guy. [/QUOTE] "And nothing of value was lost that day." Thanks TH89. That git was long overdue for it.
National identity is a stupid and useless concept.
[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24414439]National identity is a stupid and useless concept.[/QUOTE] I agree but only if everyone in the world will be able to renounce their national identity. I don't think any specific nations should just forget about their nationhood unless every single nation does this, the Jewish nation especially whats with its history and all. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;24413014]Everyone acknowledges it's too late now. Sad the Zionists didn't care how many would be expelled and massacred as long as they get their own state.[/QUOTE] It's sad that the Palestinians don't care about killing innocent civilians as long as they get their state too.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24415605] It's sad that the Palestinians don't care about killing innocent civilians as long as they get their state too.[/QUOTE] Must have learnt it from someone! Resistance of a land you once owned cannot be deemed terrorism just because they're the opposition. Think of it this way, ever seen a Palestinian military uniform? No? That's because Israel's way of dealing with things is that any Palestinian could be a terrorist, so they just bomb the entire area killing hundreds of innocents hoping they'll get the terrorists in somehow. Take it from a Palestinian who's had relatives killed, what Israel are doing is no different to any ethnic cleansing done in the past; the only difference is they're making it much more discreet and less systematic, and its more of a real-life video game. My Aunt was evicted from her home in Jerusalem for being Palestinian, despite her so called right to live in Israel. Don't talk about something you have no experience of.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24415605]It's sad that the Palestinians don't care about killing innocent civilians as long as they get their state too.[/QUOTE] except those are a small group of extremists vs an entire military who kills civilians
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;24418390]Must have learnt it from someone! Resistance of a land you once owned cannot be deemed terrorism just because they're the opposition. Think of it this way, ever seen a Palestinian military uniform? No? That's because Israel's way of dealing with things is that any Palestinian could be a terrorist, so they just bomb the entire area killing hundreds of innocents hoping they'll get the terrorists in somehow. Take it from a Palestinian who's had relatives killed, what Israel are doing is no different to any ethnic cleansing done in the past; the only difference is they're making it much more discreet and less systematic, and its more of a real-life video game. My Aunt was evicted from her home in Jerusalem for being Palestinian, despite her so called right to live in Israel. Don't talk about something you have no experience of.[/QUOTE] There is a Palestinian military uniform. And Israel only fires its weapons at locations where it is sure there are terrorists (like if they launched rockets from it a few minutes earlier). The thing about your aunt is unfortunate but you can't really believe that it's because she's Palestinian. If this was the case then all other Palestinians would have been evicted too, and there are a lot of Palestinians in Jerusalem. [editline]12:14PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JDK721;24420550]except those are a small group of extremists vs an entire military who kills civilians[/QUOTE] Fun fact - the same applies to the Zionists! Only a few small groups of Zionist extremists killed civilians, against what seemed like an army of civilian killers!
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24384347]If the Gypseis want their own state then I don't see why they shouldn't get it, also the Jewish state isn't there because of the holocaust, remember, Jews wanted their state even before the 20th century.[/QUOTE] Where's a homosexual state?
[QUOTE=Warhol;24454592]Where's a homosexual state?[/QUOTE] Homosexuals don't want a state?
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;24430158]There is a Palestinian military uniform. And Israel only fires its weapons at locations where it is sure there are terrorists (like if they launched rockets from it a few minutes earlier). The thing about your aunt is unfortunate but you can't really believe that it's because she's Palestinian. If this was the case then all other Palestinians would have been evicted too, and there are a lot of Palestinians in Jerusalem. [editline]12:14PM[/editline] Fun fact - the same applies to the Zionists! Only a [B]few small groups[/B] of Zionist extremists killed civilians, against what seemed like an army of civilian killers![/QUOTE] the irgun was not small, pretty much all the main zionist groups slaughtered civilians. The Zionists were terrorists. [editline]05:19AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Devodiere;24454608]Homosexuals don't want a state?[/QUOTE] they want rights, so whatever BED finds justified is only applicable to people who want states?
[QUOTE=Warhol;24454628]they want rights, so whatever BED finds justified is only applicable to people who want states?[/QUOTE] They deserve rights but they don't really want a state. Give them rights because they want them, don't give them a state because they don't want it.
A Homosexual state wouldn't work because there would be no population growth. :downs: But then claiming that Isreal exists solely because Jews wanted a state doesn't work either. Many groups of people througout history have craved independance from their motherlands, and it would be a lie to say they all got it. And nearly all of those who did had to prove that they could survive on their own in some sort of violent conflict. But Isreal didn't have to do this. They were given a state, and the means to defend it, without having to fight anyone. None of the people who have attacked Isreal up to this point posed any threat to the entire nation's existance. There are people who try to bring harm to it, I'll give you that, but situations like those need to be handled differently than being invaded by another country. They were put in an unstable part of the world where a conflict could easily arise, but this was ignored. They don't ingnore these things for anyone else, so it's clear there's more to it than just "they wanted a state."
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;24456394]A Homosexual state wouldn't work because there would be no population growth. :downs:[/quote] They could have most of their population growth coming from immigrants but then it would be more like exiling them to Gay land rather than having their own state. [quote]But then claiming that Isreal exists solely because Jews wanted a state doesn't work either. Many groups of people througout history have craved independance from their motherlands, and it would be a lie to say they all got it.[/quote] It is a tragedy when they do not get their own state, not a problem when they do. Andorra, Pakistan, former Soviet countries and most new states are all because they wanted their own country and got it. Plenty have not but there are still plenty who do. [quote]And nearly all of those who did had to prove that they could survive on their own in some sort of violent conflict. But Isreal didn't have to do this. They were given a state, and the means to defend it, without having to fight anyone. None of the people who have attacked Isreal up to this point posed any threat to the entire nation's existance. There are people who try to bring harm to it, I'll give you that, but situations like those need to be handled differently than being invaded by another country.[/quote] Actually most countries didn't have that much of a conflict on creation, if anyone has had a baptism of fire it's Israel. On the first day they were attacked by most of their Arab neighbors and for most of their history have had small skirmishes and other wars. They were formidable in many ways but even if they were absolute shit, that doesn't make the conflict null. Take a look at the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_conflict]long history of conflict[/url] and see if any of them count. As for help from the US, who doesn't get support and weapons from other coutries? Afghanistan had a Russian friendly government with russian weapons but once they got overthrown and invaded, they took US stingers to fight back. Iran had a US friendly government but after the Islamic revolution, the US sold weapons to Iraq to wage war on them. The British supplied the Arabs heavily in both WW1 and WW2 to fight the Turks/Nazis so much that thousands of them still use British Lee-enfield rifles. It's not considered unfair if their friends give them better weapons, it's a core part of warfare.
[QUOTE=Warhol;24454592]Where's a homosexual state?[/QUOTE] Homosexuals aren't an ethnicity. [QUOTE=Warhol;24454628]the irgun was not small, pretty much all the main zionist groups slaughtered civilians. The Zionists were terrorists.[/quote] Nope, nope, aaaaaand nope. The Irgun was really small, even smaller than the Hamas (hell, the Hamas got voted into leading Gaza, the Irgun would never even dream of being the leading group for the Zionists). Only the Irgun, Lehi, and a few other groups too small to even remember did so, but none of them together were as big as the Haganah which despised such actions until the late 40's when they did do such actions, it was a revolutionary war-style, like "hey you British, we're ready to have our own state, so get off our lawn and let us govern ourselves already". [quote]they want rights, so whatever BED finds justified is only applicable to people who want states?[/QUOTE] I never said anything about how homosexuals shouldn't have rights or anything similar, but we're talking about states and ethnicities here, not rights and sexual preferences.
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