Intelligence Officials: Russians may have Compromising Information on Trump - Polidicks

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656040]on a slightly different note I am saddened that nobody is protesting that we shouldn't assume anything until we know all the facts blah blah.... I wonder how long this is going to run and whether we will ever actually know what is true or not?[/QUOTE] When the post directly above yours is doing the very thing that you're claiming nobody in the thread is doing, you know you fucked up.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656040]on a slightly different note I am saddened that nobody is protesting that we shouldn't assume anything until we know all the facts blah blah....[/QUOTE] try reading the thread, plenty of posts like that

[QUOTE=Stroheim;51656033]But until that BI guy or his company actually comes out and confirms the dossier, which the agent had refused to talk about for [I]at least a month[/I] according to the WSJ article, I'll still be skeptical.[/QUOTE] Read the thing I posted earlier: [QUOTE=Mythman;51655991]Posted without comment: [url]https://order-order.com/2017/01/11/d-notice-issued-naming-trump-allegations-source/[/url] (It is Guido Fawkes which is terrible source so take with a bucket of salt & if it's true we are unlikely to corroboration from other British media)[/QUOTE] They wouldn't issue this gagging request if the NYT article wasn't close to the mark.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656040]on a slightly different note I am saddened that nobody is protesting that we shouldn't assume anything until we know all the facts blah blah.... I wonder how long this is going to run and whether we will ever actually know what is true or not?[/QUOTE] Isn't that lovely secure position to coddle you in the chilly night. This is a dispute about clandestine events investigated by intelligence agencies. You absolutely rest assured that all the facts will never be known.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656040]on a slightly different note I am saddened that [B]nobody is protesting that we shouldn't assume anything until we know all the facts blah blah...[/B].[/QUOTE] I know the thread is 18 pages long and I dont expect you to read all of it, but come the fuck on man. This has been the default stance of the majority of people ITT for its entire duration. Nobody here is assuming anything. We're posing judgements and speculations based on the information we've been presented so far.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;51656049]try reading the thread, plenty of posts like that[/QUOTE] And since yesterday when I mentioned this earlier point, I have seen several who throw caution to the wind and don't care if it's fake too.

[img]http://puu.sh/tiYpq/ddb42ed37b.png[/img] I really do hope thousands of people are looking up christopher steele right now.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51656065]I know the thread is 18 pages long and I dont expect you to read all of it, but come the fuck on man. This has been the default stance of the majority of people ITT for its entire duration. Nobody here is assuming anything. We're posing judgements and speculations based on the information we've been presented so far.[/QUOTE] I never said anyone was assuming anything, I said that nobody was protesting that we shouldn't assume, which is different. I only read through the last 3 pages or so though.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51656037]Skeptical is fine - Until something's proven true, you shouldn't believe it, after all. But you must at least admit that if there *are* in fact multiple intelligence sources on this thing, it's very, very concerning.[/QUOTE] It is very concerning, and I do admit that there are multiple sources on this. But all of them lack the confirmation by the original guy, and the fact that he didn't talk about this potentially global-scale issue for at least a month, because he thought it was 'too hot', and then releasing it literally ELEVEN DAYS before his inauguration (wtf was he waiting for if December was 'too hot'?) is something I just can't take seriously. Until this man comes out and says it, or the FBI/CIA confirms the legitimacy of it, I am staying skeptical.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656040]on a slightly different note I am saddened that nobody is protesting that we shouldn't assume anything until we know all the facts blah blah.... I wonder how long this is going to run and whether we will ever actually know what is true or not?[/QUOTE] This story is at least as true as Hillary wanting to go to war with Russia, or Hillary being on death's door, or Hillary supporting the TPP, or Hillary having people assassinated, or Obama being Kenyan, or CNN faking technical issues to silence trump supporters.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51656066]And since yesterday when I mentioned this earlier point, I have seen several who throw caution to the wind and don't care if it's fake too.[/QUOTE] Except the posts you linked to didn't really seem to suggest that at all. People laughing at the public perception is quite different than not caring about what is or isn't true.

[QUOTE=CapLaPorte;51656077][img]http://puu.sh/tiYpq/ddb42ed37b.png[/img] I really do hope thousands of people are looking up christopher steele right now.[/QUOTE] Damn, ex-british spies are sure hot af.

[QUOTE=Vlevs;51656064]Isn't that lovely secure position to coddle you in the chilly night. This is a dispute about clandestine events investigated by intelligence agencies. You absolutely rest assured that all the facts will never be known.[/QUOTE] indeed, although he is obviously guilty? right?

[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;51656091]Damn, ex-british spies are sure hot af.[/QUOTE] Calling it right now, that guy and a gay Ameri-Ruskie will be hired by Brazzers to make a parody of this

[QUOTE=Tudd;51656066]And since yesterday when I mentioned this earlier point, I have seen several who throw caution to the wind and don't care if it's fake too.[/QUOTE] you know what i'm about to ask, don't you can you point out where these posts are? last time you only quoted two. one of which deconstructed the situation without praising the idea of fake news and didn't really come close to what you were accusing it of, while the other did praise it in a way... because it hoped these claims would catch people's eye and get them to properly educate themselves on the trump administration, which really isn't a bad thing that's one post in an 18 page thread, time to update that list

The apathy around Trump is infuriating, I had a friend who saw him and his argument with the CNN reporter and it was "Who cares they're all terrible". Like come on, this country is doomed.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;51655979]It's funny that the majority of you guys didn't share the same sentiment when Obama criticized Fox News.[/QUOTE] The crux of my post was that Trump was hypocritical for appearing on Info Wars, one of the biggest online purveyors of fake news, and did not criticize them, but rather targeted members of his own press core. If you can find an example of Obama demonstrating such obvious hypocrisy, then your argument will have a point.

I am absolutely still sceptical. I really don't know what to think, actually. This is seriously weird to me. There's nothing I can name that's anything like this in recent memory.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51656089]Except the posts you linked to didn't really seem to suggest that at all. People laughing at the public perception is quite different than not caring about what is or isn't true.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Shadow801;51654865]I am going to continue to believe this despite overwhelming evidence. If you can't beat them, become them. :)[/QUOTE] [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1548262&p=51654865&viewfull=1#post51654865[/url]

[QUOTE=Tudd;51656121][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1548262&p=51654865&viewfull=1#post51654865[/url][/QUOTE] So that's one. Do you have anymore? I'd also like to hear your actual thoughts on the manner.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51656121][url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1548262&p=51654865&viewfull=1#post51654865[/url][/QUOTE] But 1 isnt several?

[QUOTE=Saxon;51656107]The apathy around Trump is infuriating, I had a friend who saw him and his argument with the CNN reporter and it was "Who cares they're all terrible". Like come on, this country is doomed.[/QUOTE] It's easier for people to bury their fucking heads or go along with it than face the facts and the music. People will go so fucking far in this country to not have to admit they were wrong, or made a bad decision. I just don't understand it.

I wonder what the FBI and the BI agencies are doing right now.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;51656087]This story is at least as true as Hillary wanting to go to war with Russia, or Hillary being on death's door, or Hillary supporting the TPP, or Hillary having people assassinated, or Obama being Kenyan, or [B]CNN faking technical issues to silence trump supporters.[/B][/QUOTE] Of all these (otherwise ridiculous) stuff you posted I truly believe this actually happened once. [video=youtube;57qTegcMT3g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57qTegcMT3g[/video] "oh nooo" :v:

How the fuck can anyone expect me or anyone else to honestly give a shit about unverified claims against trump? He fucking rode into office on a wave of lies, propaganda, and half truths, and now I'm supposed to be some fucking vanguard of truth? I tried to advocate skepticism all throughout the election, and all I got was mocking laughter from the trumple peanut gallery. Them and daddy don can all get fucked.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51656104]indeed, although he is obviously guilty? right?[/QUOTE] You shouldn't assume anything about my stance until you know all the facts.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51656123]So that's one. Do you have anymore? I'd also like to hear your actual thoughts on the manner.[/QUOTE] Well I have posted already my thoughts on the matter quite a bit around 10ish pages in. I still think it's unverifiable bullshit like Pizzagate, but people can keep speculating if Trump really wears toddler-like PJs while watching Hentai with prostitutes in Russia and likes Golden Showers. For me personally I laugh at it and the people who buy it. Now for the rest of the content in the 35 page paper, it's all still flimsy as hell at the moment and it's not looking good if people have to seperate the retarded sex fetish shit from it already.

[QUOTE=Kecske;51656138]Of all these (otherwise ridiculous) stuff you posted I truly believe this actually happened once. [video=youtube;57qTegcMT3g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57qTegcMT3g[/video] "oh nooo" :v:[/QUOTE] I'm not even going to go over my argument again from the thread about this. Believe whatever stupid shit you want. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51656151]Well I have posted already my thoughts on the matter quite a bit around 10ish pages in. I still think it's unverifiable bullshit like Pizzagate, but people can keep speculating if Trump really wears[B][U] toddler-like PJs while watching Hentai[/U][/B] with prostitutes in Russia and likes Golden Showers. For me personally I laugh at it and the people who buy it. Now for the rest of the content in the 35 page paper, it's all still flimsy as hell at the moment and it's not looking good if people have to seperate the retarded sex fetish shit from it already.[/QUOTE] We dont need to speculate about that because it was already proven fake over 10 pages ago.

[QUOTE=Vlevs;51656148]You shouldn't assume anything about my stance until you know all the facts.[/QUOTE] It was clearly a question and not an assumption.