Intelligence Officials: Russians may have Compromising Information on Trump - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51656828]So to get back on topic (I think this section needs a huge cleanup, jesus christ): [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38586626"]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38586626[/URL] Interesting part highlighted in bold; these documents have been here for a while. This has been a thing before Trump was elected.[/QUOTE] That's what they also said on Dutch television. One of the leads in the documents involved possibly a small Dutch web-provider. The thing is, it seems to be a red herring so far. They haven't found verifiable proof that the claims made by this former MI6 agent are true, despite said Englishman having given the documents personally to some journalists here. And as said journos said, it would be a really sloppy way for Russian hackers to leave traces like that behind at different companies throughout Europe. And yes, some things aren't adding up. Such as there possibly being two Michael Cohens, if it isn't Trump's lawyer, who is this other Michael Cohen in the report then?

can we get a recap of things that happened since yesterday or a recap? this thread seems like a mess

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51656828]So to get back on topic (I think this section needs a huge cleanup, jesus christ): [URL="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38586626"]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38586626[/URL] Interesting part highlighted in bold; these documents have been here for a while. This has been a thing before Trump was elected.[/QUOTE] Hold on, so a private firm was spying on Trump (via the Russians?) for someone (the anti-Trump group?)? If it turns out the Democrats (unlikely) or some other anti-Trump party funded Orbis then we are in for some fireworks, releasing info on one candidate in an election is shady but pales in comparison to blackmail. Maybe I'm reading in-between the wrong lines though but "organisation opposed to Mr. Trump" certainly doesn't sound like a Russian one.

[QUOTE=Trixil;51656961]can we get a recap of things that happened since yesterday or a recap? this thread seems like a mess[/QUOTE] 1) Intel chiefs brief Obama and Trump on possible Russian "kompromat," both financial (i.e. bribes in China business dealings) and personal (sexual perversions in FSB-monitored hotel suite) 2) Buzzfeed publishes unsubstantiated 35-page memo alleging Russian collusion with Trump campaign in information exchange, details of Russian black-PR campaign aimed at delegitimizing US electoral process and Clinton campaign in particular 3) CNN reports on Intel chief briefing but [I]disregards[/I] questionable memo with exception of Cohen Prague visit 4) Trump plagued with Russia hacking questions during first press conference in 6 months; acknowledges Russia's role in hacks, then goes back on this; attacks BuzzFeed and CNN as fake news, rejects CNN's pleas for a question, talks some other bullshit about jobs and Trump Corporation 5) Different sources weigh in on legitimacy of 35-page memo; Cohen trip supposedly disproved, but not really; ex-MI5 (MI6?) author of memo named as one Mr. Steele; he refuses to confirm/deny authorship of the memo, because of course he would 6) Still no official FBI/CIA comment on validity of accusations, nothing much to change until some more credible sources weigh in. How'd I do?

Also it spawned a piss meme so that's fun. [t]https://media.giphy.com/media/l4xVGOegQxqe9za4E/giphy.gif[/t]

Pissing in a sea of piss

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Not sure if posted but something more official here. [quote]This evening, I had the opportunity to speak with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss recent media reports about our briefing last Friday. I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security. We also discussed the private security company document, which was widely circulated in recent months among the media, members of Congress and Congressional staff even before the IC became aware of it. I emphasized that this document is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security. President-elect Trump again affirmed his appreciation for all the men and women serving in the Intelligence Community, and I assured him that the IC stands ready to serve his Administration and the American people. James R. Clapper, Director of National Intelligence[/quote] [url]https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/224-press-releases-2017/1469-dni-clapper-statement-on-conversation-with-president-elect-trump[/url]

[QUOTE=Shadow801;51656905]Apparently this invalidates /pol/'s story. Perhaps it is legitimiate after all. If so, we're screwed really. I just hope US intelligence is better than they are in Homeland.[/QUOTE] Something not being fabricated by /pol/ really doesn't mean that it's legitimate. News organizations having these documents for months and just sitting on them points to them being hard or impossible to verify, so a large dose of healthy scepticism is in order.

[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51652947]Cant fucking trust anything anymore[/QUOTE] Can you see the effect of Russia's new campaign?

[QUOTE=mcharest;51657005]1) Intel chiefs brief Obama and Trump on possible Russian "kompromat," both financial (i.e. bribes in China business dealings) and personal (sexual perversions in FSB-monitored hotel suite) 2) Buzzfeed publishes unsubstantiated 35-page memo alleging Russian collusion with Trump campaign in information exchange, details of Russian black-PR campaign aimed at delegitimizing US electoral process and Clinton campaign in particular 3) CNN reports on Intel chief briefing but [I]disregards[/I] questionable memo with exception of Cohen Prague visit 4) Trump plagued with Russia hacking questions during first press conference in 6 months; acknowledges Russia's role in hacks, then goes back on this; attacks BuzzFeed and CNN as fake news, rejects CNN's pleas for a question, talks some other bullshit about jobs and Trump Corporation 5) Different sources weigh in on legitimacy of 35-page memo; Cohen trip supposedly disproved, but not really; ex-MI5 (MI6?) author of memo named as one Mr. Steele; he refuses to confirm/deny authorship of the memo, because of course he would 6) Still no official FBI/CIA comment on validity of accusations, nothing much to change until some more credible sources weigh in. How'd I do?[/QUOTE] makes me laugh buzzfeed publicised that, apparently kink shaming with unsubstatiated proof is ok if its someone you dont like

[QUOTE=waylander;51660522]makes me laugh buzzfeed publicised that, apparently kink shaming with unsubstatiated proof is ok if its someone you dont like[/QUOTE] Given that the Republicans are set to defund Planned Parenthood asap it looks a wee bit hypocritical if it's true

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51654323]Buzzfeed is already a legit and allowed source They didnt lie on anything[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51665830]Have people ever not? It's been a banned source here forever, as far I can recall. I know [I]I've[/I] always cracked down on it, at any rate.[/QUOTE]

Just because Buzzfeed posts articles like "we can guess your dick size by your zodiac sign" does not mean their legit journalistic enterprises are somehow compromised. Several Buzzfeed articles have been legit contenders for pulitzer prizes, like their famous exposé on modern day slavery that came out a year ago ish.