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I mean, if term limits go then you can bet your bottom dollar Trump would also abolish elections or ban other political parties. It's a fucking travesty that something like that is something I can visualise happening and a few years time.
When I first read this I called bullshit but it seems to be sticking at least. It is incredible how far we've gone down the rabbit hole in the last year that this is not a crisis-sparking statement. I haven't the smallest idea of how we're going to move forward from all this, if we move forward at all.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;53175933]It's worth noting that Russia has term limits, you cannot serve more than 2 consecutive terms as president. However you can run again after that 3rd term for 2 more terms. This is why Medvedev was president for a few years. Term limits are also absent in most, if not all, parliaments based around the Westminster system, meaning basically every constitutional monarchy in the developed world. America is actually one of the only western countries to enforce any kind of term limit. [editline]4th March 2018[/editline] You literally just said it's worthy of rebellion, yet you haven't shot up Congress yet, so I'd say it's not.[/QUOTE] And we need it for the US because it's a nation of corrupt bastards. You don't even have to live here to be able to tell.
God I hope this presidency will be a huge wakeup call for America. So that this never happens again. Staying optimistic.
[QUOTE=Cone;53175341]alright, so who wants to bet on what Mueller bombshell it was that made him spaz out this time?[/QUOTE] I [I]could[/I] seriously imagine Trump just talking about his plans to make it impossible to fail at completing his "term" of the presidency, out-loud, while others are listening and cameras rolling, when certain news has reached the White House water cooler...
[QUOTE=booster;53176247]God I hope this presidency will be a huge wakeup call for America. So that this never happens again. Staying optimistic.[/QUOTE] Considering how George Bush seems to have been completely forgotten I'm not optimistic.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176308]wait, so you're telling me that the most narcissistic president in modern history thinks that he could be president for life AND that people would like that? shocking. lmao if he even attempts this i have no doubt in my mind he'll be immediately tried and convicted for treason and summarily executed faster than you can say "my hands aren't small and ted cruz didn't kill no women"[/QUOTE] The GOP have cravenly supported trump up until now because he's a rubber stamp on their bills, I don't see how they would go against him on this.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176308]lmao if he even attempts this i have no doubt in my mind he'll be immediately tried and convicted for treason and summarily executed[/QUOTE]and if that doesn't happen?
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176333]really? you don't see how they wouldn't let him become dictator? you think the GOP is so stupid to allow someone to become president for life, literally one of the founding principles of this country?[/QUOTE] Nah I think they're very smart, that's the problem.
[QUOTE=Uber22;53175976]"But Obama..." Trump knows exactly what hes fucking doing by getting rid of Term Limits, there is no other deeper meaning or "Well what he meant was..." Trump wants to keep his control of the white house as long as he possibly can. :bullshit:[/QUOTE] This post is really confusing because he's currently not doing anything in regards to term limits
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176333]really? you don't see how they wouldn't let him become dictator? you think the GOP is so stupid to allow someone to become president for life, literally one of the founding principles of this country?[/QUOTE] If nothing else they shouldn't want dictator trump because of the fact people don't want to share power, trump might get tired of the political process and dissolve congress, they'd be powerless.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176333]you think the GOP is so [U]insidious[/U] to allow someone to become president for life, literally one of the founding principles of this country?[/QUOTE]fixed. crooked politicians do not care about "principles", they never have. they care about what benefits them and them only and fuck the rest. if a president, especially a narcissistic easily manipulated manchild, being dictator for life is what helps them get their way, they're going to be all for it and then some regardless of country or supposed party/ideology affiliation. meanwhile their propaganda machine ensures that the part of the populace, that in any other circumstances would take up arms against such an establishment, will frantically scream their support until their throats give out, because, in the case of the USA, the most important thing in the world apparently is "GOT DEM LIBRULS!!!" of course, historical establishments of dictatorship are usually followed by things like purges, with the ruler's old supporters being silenced to ensure there is no power struggle, but the contemporary GOP and others of their ilk have proven time and again that they're first and foremost short-sighted, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if that was a detail few of them would even consider.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176333]really? you don't see how they wouldn't let him become dictator? you think the GOP is so stupid to allow someone to become president for life, literally one of the founding principles of this country?[/QUOTE] My staunchly pro-Trump friend actually thought it would be a horrendous idea to get rid of presidential term limits, but not for why you would think. "My god if we got a democrat dictator for life after Trump the country would be ruined" :speechless:
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176429]you guys do realize that we do have a system of checks and balances, someone would step in. this is not going to happen. like i said, this is more retarded shit coming out of trump's mouth that will never happen. not every GOP member is as evil as you say, some of them in the senate are already trump impeachment votes, and with the upcoming blue wave, the house will be more than willing to impeach him.[/QUOTE] "That'll never happen!" Says Increasingly Worried Trump Critic For The Eighteenth Time you're expecting a logical, reasonable response from the party [I]built[/I] upon 'Feels Before Reals'. in any other country, Trump would've been impeached and replaced in less than a year, but (and correct me if i'm wrong) Trump can only be impeached if Congress passes a motion, and with a GOP-controlled Congress who would rather DIE than allow those filthy fucking liberals to get even a single seat ..... you draw your own conclusions
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53176451]My staunchly pro-Trump friend actually thought it would be a horrendous idea to get rid of presidential term limits, but not for why you would think. "My god if we got a democrat dictator for life after Trump the country would be ruined" :speechless:[/QUOTE] so close to having a breakthrough
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176560]stop putting words in my mouth[/quote] [QUOTE=EXPLOOOSIONS!;53176474]"[B]That'll never happen![/B]" Says Increasingly Worried Trump Critic For The Eighteenth Time[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Extronic;53176429]you guys do realize that we do have a system of checks and balances, someone would step in. [B]this is not going to happen.[/B][/QUOTE] :s:
The GOP has basically been boiling the frog for decades and if you expect people to suddenly realize they're being cooked, I admire your optimism.
And a lot of those people are also likely supporters of Trump, so...
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176592]i wouldn't call it optimism. when you consider that the GOP's voter base is the same one who owns a shit ton of guns and constantly supports groups like the NRA and the second amendment, the headline of "Donald Trump makes himself president for life" screams armed rebellion.[/QUOTE] the headline of "take the guns first, go through due process second" would also turn plenty of heads but, as we've just seen, it's not hard for conservative news to simply not make it into a headline in the first place
I called my parents last night and asked my father about this because for some reason he talks to me only once a month or so and wants to talk politics when we do. "The originals Constitution says nothing about the president serving for life." Is basically the argument the alt right defence force in the US is making I guess.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176560] it sounds like he's trolling you. maybe if a lot of us weren't talking about trump all the time they'd be less willing to do that[/QUOTE] No, he's the real deal. I rarely ever discuss politics with him because of it. The only reason that topic got brought up with him was because I made the mistake of playing NPR on the radio when I picked him up from work. Bonus lols: He's black. I honest to god thought he was being pro-trump "for the memes" at first, but then he got real serious about how great Trump would be for the country. I value my friendship with him a lot, so I don't talk about politics with him anymore.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176629]a comment about sensible gun control in a meeting is not comparable to actually becoming a dictator. they are not the same thing. nobody except politics nerds like us actually pay attention to shit like that, but everybody would listen to trump seizing as much power as he is talking about. even if fox ignores it, word of mouth is powerful, and so are conspiritards like alex jones and breitbart, who i would suggest also speak out against this.[/QUOTE] talking about ignoring due process is an outrageous outburst of authoritarianism, it's not just "a comment about sensible gun control". they had no problem caring about 'grab them by the pussy' when that was a comment made in a bus. that the gun comments were made in a meeting isn't the reason people don't care about them, apathy and disinformation among american conservatives is. with that said, i agree, a power grab this blatant wouldn't fly without challenge. it has a more tangible effect and it's much harder to ignore, and i don't doubt republicans would step in. the question is whether they'd step in enough (which you can totally trust them to do, guys!)
[QUOTE=Judas;53175467]I can't imagine what will happen if he loses the 2020 election. I wouldn't put it past him to start a war to keep power. Or maybe declare his opponent an enemy of the state?[/QUOTE] He has publicly lambasted his own Department of Justice and its head Jeff Sessions numerous times for not opening up an investigation into Clinton, the person who lost to him in the [I]prior [/I]election. Who knows what he will do when he loses. [QUOTE=ilikecorn;53175621]I've long said that we needed someone who's an absolute idiot/tyrant to jolt people out of their complacency. So far trump's doing a GREAT job in ensuring that those who were sitting complacent aren't going to stay that way.[/QUOTE] Paraphrasing Stephen Colbert but thats like turning off the oxygen in a room to remind people how much they like breathing.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;53176608]so long as life-president trump stays away from guns, 2a folks dont really actually care[/QUOTE] Raises an interesting question of what can you do when the "Second Amendment was made as a safeguard against tyranny" folks pick up their guns for the side of tyranny.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;53176608]so long as life-president trump stays away from guns, 2a folks dont really actually care[/QUOTE] False, don't stereotype
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176622]can i get a source on this?[/QUOTE] do you have a source on the claim that americans will rise up in an armed revolt of trump declares himself president for life?
[QUOTE=Zombinie;53176731]False, don't stereotype[/QUOTE] We don't really have to, they do a pretty good job of that themselves.
[QUOTE=Extronic;53176429]you guys do realize that we do have a system of checks and balances, someone would step in. this is not going to happen. like i said, this is more retarded shit coming out of trump's mouth that will never happen. not every GOP member is as evil as you say, some of them in the senate are already trump impeachment votes, and with the upcoming blue wave, the house will be more than willing to impeach him.[/QUOTE] Checks and balances do nothing if no one enforces them. We've seen that outside of the judicial branch, no one wants to enforce them. (Except the Dems but at the moment they don't have enough sitting members to actually do anything effectively)
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;53176749]We don't really have to, they do a pretty good job of that themselves.[/QUOTE] Clearly you haven't talked in depth with many "pro-2A" people, then There exists a whole world outside of the media's depiction, check it out
I see people only shit talking the Dems cause of the gun law they want to pass, meanwhile these assholes are systematically destroying our freedoms and benefits. I wished these sheep would fucking wake up and fight this bullshit.
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