Trump on China's Xi consolidating power: 'Maybe we'll give that a shot some day' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=booster;53176247]God I hope this presidency will be a huge wakeup call for America. So that this never happens again. Staying optimistic.[/QUOTE] You're being way too optimistic. The American people might learn their lesson for the duration of the next president's stay, if we're lucky, but we realistically can't expect anything more than that at best. [QUOTE=Extronic;53176333]really? you don't see how they wouldn't let him become dictator? you think the GOP is so stupid to allow someone to become president for life, literally one of the founding principles of this country?[/QUOTE] The GOP have repeatedly proven themselves to be some of the most shortsighted people on the entire planet and to have no regard for the founding principles of the United States so I'm not really sure why this would change anyone's mind. [QUOTE=Extronic;53176429]you guys do realize that we do have a system of checks and balances, someone would step in. this is not going to happen. like i said, this is more retarded shit coming out of trump's mouth that will never happen. not every GOP member is as evil as you say, some of them in the senate are already trump impeachment votes, and with the upcoming blue wave, the house will be more than willing to impeach him.[/QUOTE] You mean the checks and balances the GOP keeps attempting to work around or undermine? Yeah, I think we realize we have those. We also happen to realize we have a majority party who is exceedingly dangerous to have in power in conjunction with a president such as Trump. [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;53176628]I value my friendship with him a lot, so I don't talk about politics with him anymore.[/QUOTE] This is exactly how I am with my best friend as well. He voted Trump out of ignorance (he comes from a socially liberal Republican family and knew basically nothing about Trump's policies the one time we discussed him) and he's really not one to actually admit when he's wrong which tends to get in the way of him taking away valuable lessons from the times he is wrong.

[QUOTE=Extronic;53176995] [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution[/URL] [/QUOTE] Somehow I don't think this is a very good comparison. You're not wrong that it'll be contested but I don't think we're going to see another war on that level

[QUOTE=Extronic;53176995]yep [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution[/URL] and if he does declare himself president for life (he won't) AND that claim is uncontested (it won't be), i will give $100 to the FP community fund and give $20 to a random kickstarter campaign :toxx: not much of a toxx since all of this is so outlandish nothing is gonna come of it lmao [/QUOTE] Those were citizens of the british empire. :v: America didn't exist yet.

[QUOTE=Extronic;53177033]you're right. we should stop comparing trump to duterte because he is from a different country. i mean what does duterte have to do with this? he's not even from america :v: :v: :v: :v: also starting a war to secede from another country is as good as renouncing your citizenship. only case that i can think of that's different is the american civil war[/QUOTE] There's also 2.5 centuries of difference. I think that's a big factor you're missing

[QUOTE=Extronic;53177061]here's a more modern example, [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)[/url] americans aren't the only ones who have a rebellious spirit. people who are governed by dictators tend to rebel. it's a historical fact. there was a video that i can't find but it did a good job of explaining how tyrants operate. basically they have to cut anybody in power down that isn't completely necessary, otherwise it's just a liability for someone to attempt to seize power. like i said, in the .0000000000000000001% chance that he does this and succeeds, it's not gonna work out. he'd have to oust too many people in power in order to maintain his power, which is just going to make others paranoid and eventually he'd be done for.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't exactly call Libya an unassisted uprising though. The entire Arab Spring was heavily influenced by outside players [QUOTE]We have been monitoring the Nato situation updates which are released each day and give details of the operations - key targets hit, sorties flown and ships boarded. They give a picture of over 3,000 targets hit in 14,202 strike sorties - the bulk of them (716) in Tripoli, followed by 492 in Brega. Nato classifies the biggest number, 304, as ammunition dumps, with nearly 100 tanks and 55 rocket launchers struck.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]What it shows is that, besides the US - which dominates operations with over 8,000 personnel in the area in several ships and aircraft at the peak of the first weeks of the war - the weight of the conflict has fallen on the British, Italians, French and Canadians. The British have flown around 1,300 sorties, some 25% of the total, followed by the French with 1,200 and the Italians with 600. The Canadians, who have the HMCS Charllottetown in the region, have taken part in over 350 sorties up to the 5 May this year. But it's not just the usual suspects. Denmark and Norway have both taken part in attack strikes on Libya - dropping nearly 700 bombs between them. Sweden has 122 personnel and eight aircraft in the region and Belgium has flown 60 sorties.[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/may/22/nato-libya-data-journalism-operations-country[/url]

[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;53177155]I wouldn't exactly call Libya an unassisted uprising though. The entire Arab Spring was heavily influenced by outside players [url]https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/may/22/nato-libya-data-journalism-operations-country[/url][/QUOTE] The American Revolution didn't even happen unassisted. The colonies had a massive amount of help from non-british european powers, the french in particular.

[QUOTE=Extronic;53177163]and outside players wouldn't assist in not letting trump take over the most powerful country on earth?[/QUOTE] Unless Trump were to literally try to do it by military force, I don't think they would. However I don't even think the military would follow orders if that were to happen. [editline]4th March 2018[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;53177165]The American Revolution didn't even happen unassisted. The colonies had a massive amount of help from non-british european powers, the french in particular.[/QUOTE] True, I completely forgot the French were instrumental in the revolution. That's my bad for forgetting my US history

[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;53177208]Unless Trump were to literally try to do it by military force, I don't think they would. However I don't even think the military would follow orders if that were to happen. [/quote] For as much as Trump is killing Canadian trade with his tariffs and his open hatred toward NAFTA, I cannot see a Canada standing idly by as an armed rebellion against a constitutionally illegal Trump presidency goes on. [QUOTE=LZTYBRN;53177208]True, I completely forgot the French were instrumental in the revolution. That's my bad for forgetting my US history[/QUOTE] Not just the French, but the Spanish and Dutch as well. People only remember the French because they were the largest supporter and actually sent French troops to American shores. The Dutch financed the American war, and helped establish American credit afterward, while the Spanish (whom were very close allies to the French), launched a naval campaign against the British in the Caribbean and Pacific. The Revolution in the US ended for the British because the colonies were not worth the loss of their Indian holds or Caribbean holds, or select spots in Europe they controlled and so had to divert troops from the US to those. The war with France and Spain continued nearly two years after Yorktown IIRC.