Gunshots fired at Al Jazeera bureau in Gaza 1 day after Israeli FM vows to shut down the network - Polidicks

[QUOTE=-Sleepy-*;45467845]I like it when a source is quoted and not in your favor you (and people like you) immediately dismiss it as a biased source.[/QUOTE] Every source is biased one way or another.

[QUOTE=Megadave;45467807]What's gonna happen if a CNN journalist gets caught in the crossfire? People would be flipping shit.[/QUOTE] Journalists get caught in the crossfire all the time when covering war zones. Same as soldiers, civilians, and anyone else in a war zone. That's probably why they wear those nifty helmets and vests when going outside. I'm not implying anything about this specific incident, mind you. I have no idea what happened there.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45467891]Journalists get caught in the crossfire all the time when covering war zones. Same as soldiers, civilians, and anyone else in a war zone. That's probably why they wear those nifty helmets and vests when going outside. I'm not implying anything about this specific incident, mind you. I have no idea what happened there.[/QUOTE] no if it was cnn it'd be different. al jazeera has no street cred in the us. the name sounds foreign and the logo has weird foreign cursive shit - it scares the freedom in me every time i see it!

[QUOTE=Masterofstars;45467615]Al-Jazeera is a good news source but they're pretty anti-Israel IMO, just look at their opinion section and it becomes fairly clear. [IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/AFellowStalker/Jazeera.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Al Jazeera is to Arab-issues what Fox News is to conservative-issues and MSNBC is to liberal-issues. Everyone's got a bias to them and I find the best way to avoid that is to rotate around and listen to all of them a little bit and use your own brain to figure out what [I]your[/I] opinion is. Al Jazeera is generally good with covering issues in the Middle east that standard western media doesn't cover. They also have good live streams of happenings in the middle east, and give you an Arabian viewpoint of things happening in the west which is crucial to see if you want an open mind. Bias news sources are really only a problem if they're you're [I]only[/I] source. (Which is unfortunately true for [I]a lot[/I] of people) If you gather information from them all you can see what other sides may be thinking and form a well-rounded view of whats going on with everyone. Someone (Smurfy??) should make a news site that gathers similar articles from the main news providers and lumps them together in one spot to read the bias from everyone in one easy place.

Comparing them to fox, who can and does legally lie is kinda harsh.

[QUOTE=OvB;45468088]Al Jazeera is to Arab-issues what Fox News is to conservative-issues and MSNBC is to liberal-issues. Everyone's got a bias to them and I find the best way to avoid that is to rotate around and listen to all of them a little bit and use your own brain to figure out what [I]your[/I] opinion is. [/QUOTE] Like I said, I generally like Al-Jazeera as a news source, but on the topic of Israel I don't find them a very good source.

so... its confirmed [url]https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/491479195466620929[/url] [IMG]http://i58.tinypic.com/1zl9hth.png[/IMG]

Can we get the confirmation? And a reason as to why, Wizards Court?

[QUOTE=Marceline;45468965]Can we get the confirmation? And a reason as to why, Wizards Court?[/QUOTE] If you read the op, it says why. [quote]Al Jazeera "has abandoned even the perception of being a reliable news organisation and broadcasts from Gaza and to the world anti-Israel incitement, lies, and encouragement to the terrorists," Lieberman said.[/quote]

Isn't opening fire on a group of people who disagree with you the very definition of terrorism?

[QUOTE=-Sleepy-*;45469235]If you read the op, it says why.[/QUOTE] Lieberman doesn't make policy. Netanyahu Does. Which is why Lieberman recently split his Israel Beyteynu faction from Netanyahu's Likud party as he was unhappy with the government actions in Gaza not being brutal enough. Anyway, I couldn't find any confirmation to the claim Al Jazeera makes in the twitter you posted. Do you have any link to the actual statement from the IDF?

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45469366]Lieberman doesn't make policy. Netanyahu Does. Which is why Lieberman recently split his Israel Beyteynu faction from Netanyahu's Likud party as he was unhappy with the government actions in Gaza not being brutal enough. Anyway, I couldn't find any confirmation to the claim Al Jazeera makes in the twitter you posted. Do you have any link to the actual statement from the IDF?[/QUOTE] I was not the one who posted the twitter, ask the one who posted it, sorry. :)

[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;45469311]Isn't opening fire on a group of people who disagree with you the very definition of terrorism?[/QUOTE] Shhh, they gonna throw you into the same bag with Starpluck and everyone else who dares to talk badly of Israel.

[QUOTE]Shhh, they gonna throw you into the same bag with Starpluck and everyone else who dares to talk badly of Israel.[/QUOTE] I can safetly say that your group is the majority here. We're just trying to voice our opinions. I suppose that any challenges to your prejudice makes you frightened.

[QUOTE=Lamar;45466763]Have you not noticed it? In every single Israel/Palestine thread where the reporting is done by Arabs, there is always one poster attempting to discredit the news source.[/QUOTE] it's kinda funny to hear you say this when you were the guy who trawled for two straight months for news stories about white people getting attacked by black people. like i don't even think you're necessarily wrong but this is a pretty damn weird point to take the moral highground on man

[QUOTE=Marceline;45469981]I can safetly say that your group is the majority here. We're just trying to voice our opinions. I suppose that any challenges to your prejudice makes you frightened.[/QUOTE] Yes I confess my prejudice against a government that killed several hundred civilians in a handful of days in retaliation at little more than a provocation.

[QUOTE=ScumBunny;45469366]Lieberman doesn't make policy. Netanyahu Does. Which is why Lieberman recently split his Israel Beyteynu faction from Netanyahu's Likud party as he was unhappy with the government actions in Gaza not being brutal enough. Anyway, I couldn't find any confirmation to the claim Al Jazeera makes in the twitter you posted. Do you have any link to the actual statement from the IDF?[/QUOTE] I'm not sure I understand - are you expecting the IDF to make an official statement confirming that they indeed did breech international law?

[QUOTE=Stopper;45470724]I'm not sure I understand - are you expecting the IDF to make an official statement confirming that they indeed did breech international law?[/QUOTE] I don't like posting in these threads because they are an inevitable shitstorm but there is a logical error here. You posted saying "They wouldn't confirm that they shot at journalists" to a post which asked "Is there an actual statement" which was posted in response to a tweet saying that "They did confirm that they shot at journalists".

[QUOTE=Stopper;45466776]I've found that Al Jazeera is one of the most un-biased news networks in the world. I follow them (mostly on worldwide topics) and so far their coverage seems to be on par with other news outlets. I haven't seen any bias in their articles so far. I haven't read every article on Gaza, but again, from what I've seen, they've maintained a neutral journalistic view. In fact, I'd be more inclined to trust their news than others', because they have more readily available access to the conflict area.[/QUOTE] That's true of Al Jazeera English, but from what I heard the main Al Jazeera network (the one written/broadcasted in Arabic) is literally a Qatari state news outlet and it is incredibly biased on regional issues like this.

[QUOTE=Thlis;45470784]I don't like posting in these threads because they are an inevitable shitstorm but there is a logical error here. You posted saying "They wouldn't confirm that they shot at journalists" to a post which asked "Is there an actual statement" which was posted in response to a tweet saying that "They did confirm that they shot at journalists".[/QUOTE] Oh crap, that's my bad - I missed the twitter post. (I was asking an honest question, didn't mean to sound hostile)

[QUOTE=Marceline;45466647]It's still unknown who did it. Anyways, Al-Jazeera, despite how they're in essence Ma'an news, have the right to report on the situation. Who ever purposefully fired those shots should be punished.[/QUOTE] I agree, but who's to say it was done by intent? When you set up shop inside a literal war zone, odds are that you will have to deal with gunfire, if not worse, coming close. [editline]22nd July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Thlis;45470784]I don't like posting in these threads because they are an inevitable shitstorm but there is a logical error here. You posted saying "They wouldn't confirm that they shot at journalists" to a post which asked "Is there an actual statement" which was posted in response to a tweet saying that "They did confirm that they shot at journalists".[/QUOTE] The person who posted the tweet "confirming it" was a member of al Jazeera, and didn't give a source as to who made the confirmation. It means nothing.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;45466592][B]Update: [/B][URL="https://twitter.com/AJELive/status/491479195466620929"]Israeli army confirms it fired warning shots on Al Jazeera bureau in Gaza.[/URL][/QUOTE] Someone posts a topic stating a claim made by an unnamed Israeli officer as fact and you challenge them on it. You post an unsourced, unnamed, random tweet from Al-Jezeera and it might as well be 100% confirmed fact.

[QUOTE=OvB;45468088]Someone (Smurfy??) should make a news site that gathers similar articles from the main news providers and lumps them together in one spot to read the bias from everyone in one easy place.[/QUOTE] [url]http://alternativeto.net/software/google-reader/[/url] These will pull articles by category from multiple sites. Then you can lump em together and gloss through them. Use of tags will make it even more specific. Good luck, and good news.

[QUOTE=sgman91;45473089]Someone posts a topic stating a claim made by an unnamed Israeli officer as fact and you challenge them on it. You post an unsourced, unnamed, random tweet from Al-Jezeera and it might as well be 100% confirmed fact.[/QUOTE] al jazeera is credible, idf officers are not

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;45473274]al jazeera is credible, idf officers are not[/QUOTE] Since when are unsourced tweets ever credible... from anyone?