Enhanced Police Video Shows Injuries On George Zimmerman's Head - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Noble;35414190]In what way is this a murder case? Is there evidence that the shooting was a pre-meditated act by Zimmerman?[/QUOTE] As far as I know murder is not only applied to premeditation, it's just applied to killing someone with the intention of killing him, even if this intention was just a sudden fit of rage for instance.

[QUOTE=JimmyA;35414160]He was also called a cracker.[/QUOTE] I think national negativity is a little worse than being called a cracker. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Noble;35414190]In what way is this a murder case? Is there evidence that the shooting was a pre-meditated act by Zimmerman?[/QUOTE] First off he accosted him when he shouldn't have, so that's a problem in the first place. [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;35414185]Good job missing his point. Hell, what's [B]your[/B] point ? Because Trayvon is part of an oppressed minority he's completely innocent in that whole case ?[/QUOTE] What does that case have to do with this? Other than to point out how bad White people get it, what's his point? I didn't mention Trayvon or his race in that, good job missing my point. Shit, at least I stuck to his post.

[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35414203]It's ok to murder in self defense.[/QUOTE] but this wasn't just self-defense. he actively sought out a conflicting situation, and then used self-defense. there's something wrong with that, you can't pick a fight with someone, kill them because things got hectic, and get off with nothing

[QUOTE=Noble;35414190]In what way is this a murder case? Is there evidence that the shooting was a pre-meditated act by Zimmerman?[/QUOTE] Murder in the first degree is premeditated and willful. Second degree murder is willful but not premeditated. Voluntary manslaughter is a "Heat of Passion murder, is any intentional killing that involved no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed."

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35414221]What does that case have to do with this? Other than to point out how bad White people get it, what's his point? I didn't mention Trayvon or his race in that, good job missing my point. Shit, at least I stuck to his post.[/QUOTE] I was talking about your point in general. And his point wasn't that white people get it bad, it was that the entire trayvon martin case was blown out of proportion because the media talked about it as a race kill, and he gave the example of black people murdering a white person that got no media attention to show that the only reason the trayvon martin case is getting attention is because Trayvon was Black and got killed by someone with a brighter skin than his.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35414281]and he gave the example of black people murdering a white person that got no media attention to show that the only reason the trayvon martin case is getting attention is because Trayvon was Black and got killed by someone with a brighter skin than his.[/QUOTE] Only his point was dumb because the case he posted was unambiguous, had a witness and got media coverage.

[QUOTE=Dolton;35414276]Murder in the first degree is premeditated and willful. Second degree murder is willful but not premeditated. Voluntary manslaughter is a "Heat of Passion murder, is any intentional killing that involved no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed."[/QUOTE] Is there proof that he willfully attempted to kill Trayvon rather than fired off a shot in self defense (or even if the gun went off by accident during a struggle)? I don't believe any evidence supports the idea that just because he was (or may have allegedly been) following Trayvon around the neighborhood that he had any intention whatsoever to take his life.

I've just stopped caring about this case. It's such a dumb back-and-forth thing.

[QUOTE=Noble;35414343]Is there proof that he willfully attempted to kill Trayvon rather than fired off a shot in self defense (or even if the gun went off by accident during a struggle)? I don't believe any evidence supports the idea that just because he was (or may have allegedly been) following Trayvon around the neighborhood that he had any intention whatsoever to take his life.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure shooting someone in self defense and killing him counts as murder because, you know, you just willingly shot him and supposedly knew what would be the direct consequence of shooting someone, especially almost point blank.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35413178] You guys have been fucking saying this since day one, WHEN will there be a court case? So far this guy has gotten off scott free.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand the justice system very well. A case has to be built before he can be taken to court; it's known as investigation. Investigation doesn't take place during a trial. The police will have to bring the best case possible against Zimmerman if they believe he is guilty, which they are still determining. If you believe he's guilty, then you should at least think he should have a solid case brought against him that puts him away, not a slapdash argument full of circumstantial evidence that gets shot down by the defense. On another note, this whole media explosion wouldn't have happened if his last name were Lopez.

The best thing for this whole case would to be where Zimmerman is innocent and all the shitraking just ruins his reputation as a person forever I love it when the internet becomes its own court and decides guilt based on "oh motherfuck he's racist AND a cop"

[QUOTE=Noble;35414343]Is there proof that he willfully attempted to kill Trayvon rather than fired off a shot in self defense (or even if the gun went off by accident during a struggle)? I don't believe any evidence supports the idea that just because he was (or may have allegedly been) following Trayvon around the neighborhood that he had any intention whatsoever to take his life.[/QUOTE] I've heard that the empty shell casing was still in the chamber, indicating that someone was holding the slide so it couldn't be shot again, but don't quote me on that.

[QUOTE=Greenen72;35414411]I love it when the internet becomes its own court and decides guilt based on "oh motherfuck he's racist AND a cop"[/QUOTE] He's not a cop. At most, he's a neighbourhood watch captain with delusions of grandeur.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;35414437]He's not a cop. At most, he's a neighbourhood watch captain with delusions of grandeur.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but tell that to the people who only know of him as "the racist cop that killed a black kid" thanks to some of the less savvy internet communities

I love how they edited the video you can't enhance a video and make the quality automatically better you know and you only see the injury in an [B]IMAGE[/B], not the video they 'supposedly enhanced'

[QUOTE=Greenen72;35414462]Yeah, but tell that to the people who only know of him as "the racist cop that killed a black kid" thanks to some of the less savvy internet communities[/QUOTE] I don't know anyone in person who doesn't know he's not actually white.

[QUOTE=Noble;35414343]Is there proof that he willfully attempted to kill Trayvon rather than fired off a shot in self defense (or even if the gun went off by accident during a struggle)? I don't believe any evidence supports the idea that just because he was (or may have allegedly been) following Trayvon around the neighborhood that he had any intention whatsoever to take his life.[/QUOTE] You're arguing semantics. He killed another human being with forethought, the instances surrounding it cover varying degrees of murder.

I thought it was kind of dumb that people would jump to conclusions and claim they couldn't see any injuries in what was practically a 160x160 resolution video.

[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;35414394]I don't think you understand the justice system very well. A case has to be built before he can be taken to court; it's known as investigation Investigation doesn't take place during a trial. The police will have to bring the best case possible against Zimmerman if they believe he is guilty, which they are still determining. If you believe he's guilty, then you should at least think he should have a solid case brought against him that puts him away, not a slapdash argument full of circumstantial evidence that gets shot down by the defense. [/quote] And when you're dealing with a faulty as fuck investigation, you're left to pick up what you can. [quote]On another note, this whole media explosion wouldn't have happened if his last name were Lopez.[/QUOTE] Uh, yes it would have. No one thinks he's a white guy lmao, it's very clear he's latino and no one is dropping this case. Stop acting like the only reason people care about this case is to fault white people for something. I'm sick of seeing white people making themselves out to be victims.

[QUOTE=Gishank;35410746]If it was a black cop, and a white kid. Would you still argue the same points against Zimmerman?[/QUOTE] if it was a black cop and a white kid he wouldn't have gotten away with it and the department wouldn't be trying it's damndest to cover his ass [QUOTE=Scot;35410798]Why are people so convinced that Zimmerman killed the kid in cold blood when there is barely any evidence to support it?[/QUOTE] there's plenty of evidence. there's a dead kid and audio of him crying for help. even if Martin did try to fight Zimmerman it would still be Zimmerman's fault since he came after him with a fucking gun. this doesn't change anything.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;35414521]I thought it was kind of dumb that people would jump to conclusions and claim they couldn't see any injuries in what was practically a 160x160 resolution video.[/QUOTE] This doesn't prove much either. Enhanced video showing one frame of something that is inconsistent.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35414524]And when you're dealing with a faulty as fuck investigation, you're left to pick up what you can. Uh, yes it would have. No one thinks he's a white guy lmao, it's very clear he's latino and no one is dropping this case. Stop acting like the only reason people care about this case is to fault white people for something. I'm sick of seeing white people making themselves out to be victims.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's so much about white guys wanting to be shown as victims and more like about black guys being victimized.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35414545]I don't think it's so much about white guys wanting to be shown as victims and more like about black guys being victimized.[/QUOTE] black guys get victimized by an unjust system all the fucking time. that's a fact.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35414524]No one thinks he's a white guy lmao, it's very clear he's latino and no one is dropping this case. Stop acting like the only reason people care about this case is to fault white people for something. I'm sick of seeing white people making themselves out to be victims.[/QUOTE] Lol like I said earlier, everyone I know thinks he's just a racist white guy. When you think of someone who is racist you usually don't think of anyone that can be classified as a minority in the US, just throwing that out there.

[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;35414539]This doesn't prove much either. Enhanced video showing one frame of something that is inconsistent.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I don't know how the went about "enhancing a video". So this doesn't prove anything, but neither did the original.

I wish people would just stop being so extreme about this case and wait for further evidence to come by. Jumping to conclusions is never a good idea and we all know how fast the internet is when it comes to overreacting on anything (anyone remember how Kony 2012 was a massive thing before it pretty much turned up to be scam ?). As for the Trayvon Martin case, it's fairly obvious that everyone has its part of guilt in the story and that neither Zimmerman nor Martin were completely in the wrong or in the right when it happened.

"enhancing" video is literally just photoshopping individual frames based on extrapolations of what is visible in the original footage. it provides no new information, it's just based on (sometimes educated, sometimes not) guesswork [editline]3rd April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;35414618]I wish people would just stop being so extreme about this case and wait for further evidence to come by. [/QUOTE] There is a dead child and audio recordings of him pleading for help before being shot to death. Unless something more substantial than some police funded guesswork to re contextualize that then we have all the evidence we need. [QUOTE=Ganerumo;35414618] As for the Trayvon Martin case, it's fairly obvious that everyone has its part of guilt in the story and that neither Zimmerman nor Martin were completely in the wrong or in the right when it happened.[/QUOTE] no, that's not obvious. The only thing Martin is guilty of is wearing a hoodie and being black in an affluent neighborhood defended by a delusional vigilante.

This whole thing is one hell of a three ring circus.

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