Townhall protests against "Obamacare" turned into battle zones
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has anyone in here actually READ the bill proposed?
I mean going through 4 or so pages i have a feeling everyone is just going off of what everyone else has said, which is [B]BAD[/B] and it won't resolve anything.
here facepunch
[url]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h3200:[/url]
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;16582386]Fixed for accuracy[/QUOTE]
Boba_Fett? Accuracy? Surely you're pulling my leg.
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;16582414]This thread is fucking long. Summarize it- how is this supposedly a deathtrap for seniors?[/QUOTE]
Because Sam Tilgan heard so on Glenn Beck.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16584423]Boba_Fett? Accuracy? Surely you're pulling my leg.
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Because Sam Tilgan heard so on Glenn Beck.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4NMoyarAM4[/media]
Video always seems relevent when ever beck gets brought up.
Why have I never seen that.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;16582340] Medicare,[/QUOTE] Broke
[quote] Medicaid,[/QUOTE] Practily Broke
[quote] and Social Security[/QUOTE] Almost out of money anyway.
[QUOTE=Glaber;16585806]Broke
Practily Broke
Almost out of money anyway.[/QUOTE]
humm maybe that's because EVERYONE HAS BEEN CUTTING TAXES FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS
[QUOTE=Llivavin;16584411]has anyone in here actually READ the bill proposed?[/QUOTE]
Skimmed it. Seems like even the people who read it manage to pull some bullshit out their asses, though.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvR59BAQ9t4[/media]
You'll probably recognize this from that other thread.
@ 3:22:
[QUOTE=Fat lady, camerawoman]Stacy, what part of the bill says that it'll be illegal...
Page 16. Read it. Page 16 says that if this law passes and you change jobs, or you lose your health care, to get new health care would be illegal.[/QUOTE]
Now that does sound worrisome. So, wondering how I'd have missed that, and why people weren't up in arms about it, I went and poked in the .PDF again.
[QUOTE=Relevant information on Page 16]1 Sec. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT
2 COVERAGE
3 (a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV-
4 ERAGE DEFINED.
...
[b]10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT[/b]
[/QUOTE]
Line ten looks scary...if you're not reading it in context. Oh God, they defined "grandfathered health insurance coverage" and said that if you apply after the bill passes, your coverage will not technically be grandfathered in.
OF FUCKING COURSE IT WON'T THAT'S WHAT THE TERM MEANS. IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO A LEGAL CHANGE. It isn't illegal to get new coverage, you'd just get post-bill coverage. Fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck do I hate people who read easy, explicit english COMPLETELY WRONG.:argh: [/rage]
Well, I just had a revelation.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6hx7brlMc8[/media]
After seeing this on television I realized how horrible this plan is!
Their commercial about how global warming was a scam also got to me. Did you know the temperature has actually gone down in recent years?
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;16594320]Well, I just had a revelation.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6hx7brlMc8[/media]
After seeing this on television I realized how horrible this plan is!
Their commercial about how global warming was a scam also got to me. Did you know the temperature has actually gone down in recent years?[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, the soviet anthem just made it all.
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;16594320]Well, I just had a revelation.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6hx7brlMc8[/media]
After seeing this on television I realized how horrible this plan is!
Their commercial about how global warming was a scam also got to me. Did you know the temperature has actually gone down in recent years?[/QUOTE]
How did they make the quality of the video that bad? Is this 1995?
[quote=johnlukeg;16594320]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hx7brlmc8[/media]
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THIS IS WHAT AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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Barreck Obima is a citizen of Kenya.
on topic: I recently read in my local paper that some of the democratic reps in my area where receiving death threats because they supported Obama's healthcare plan. I guess it just goes to show how people can be so ignorant that they don't even argue their point anymore.
"I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration...We are Americans, We have the right to participate and debate any administration."
looks like someone brought a gun to a townhall
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Pvt. Ryan;16607320]looks like someone brought a gun to a townhall
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Wow, so now people are going to these things ready to shoot someone.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;16608322]Wow, so now people are going to these things ready to shoot someone.[/QUOTE]
Carrying a gun doesn't automatically mean they're going to use it to shoot someone.
[QUOTE=JDK721v2;16608373]Carrying a gun doesn't automatically mean they're going to use it to shoot someone.[/QUOTE]
No but old man jenkins heard they're taking away his medicare on Fox News so he's just taking it if he needs to start some shit.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16612232]No but old man jenkins heard they're taking away his medicare on Fox News so he's just taking it if he needs to start some shit.[/QUOTE]
get out
or i'll rape your face
with a blender
not one of the nice swedish ones either, i'll use one of the cheap ass thai ones.
How does one stop health care? Simple! Make people need it more by making them unhealthy.
With bullets.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;16554250]
Plus, the constant, constant Fox pundits comparisons of Obama to Hitler, as if to say "Well, Obama is just like Hitler, and we all know what he deserved...right?"
[/QUOTE]
Holy wow. Wasn't it Bush that was compared to Hitler only 8 years ago? They need to make up their mind.
[QUOTE=azndude;16612838]Holy wow. Wasn't it Bush that was compared to Hitler only 8 years ago? They need to make up their mind.[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;16613148]No.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure?
[QUOTE=azndude;16613161]Are you sure?[/QUOTE]
I remember Bush being compared to Hitler pretty frequently...
Especially when he suspended Habeas Corpus.
[QUOTE=johnlukeg;16613286]I remember Bush being compared to Hitler pretty frequently...
Especially when he suspended Habeas Corpus.[/QUOTE]
Aw.. but I wanted him to say 'no' so I can post pictures.
Oh no, the People aren't letting themselves get butt fucked anymore. OH GOD THE HORROR.
Hopefully more career politicians get kicked out of office next election.
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Democrats have been accusing Republicans and special interest groups of orchestrating many of these demonstrations.
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How dare those Republicans not agree with the Democrats.
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Also, opinions are unamerican according to some Democrats.
I saw some asshat Democrat on the news call the protesters unamerican.
If the americans cant even create universal health care then how do they expect to build bases on the moon and mars?
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16613560]Oh no, the People aren't letting themselves get butt fucked anymore. OH GOD THE HORROR.
Hopefully more career politicians get kicked out of office next election.
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How dare those Republicans not agree with the Democrats.
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Also, opinions are unamerican according to some Democrats.
I saw some asshat Democrat on the news call the protesters unamerican.[/QUOTE]
you are my hero sir. exactly my opinion on the matter.
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[QUOTE=Lol wut?;16613728]If the americans cant even create universal health care then how do they expect to build bases on the moon and mars?[/QUOTE]
why can't you stay out of american matters? other countries call us nosey for getting into other matters, which is true, but other countries are also hypocrites.
[QUOTE=Lol wut?;16613728]If the americans cant even create universal health care then how do they expect to build bases on the moon and mars?[/QUOTE]
Because universal healthcare isn't what we're making anyway.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;16613560]
Also, opinions are unamerican according to some Democrats.
I saw some asshat Democrat on the news call the protesters unamerican.[/QUOTE]
where were you the last 8 years?
Where were you during the last 8 years of "AMERICA: LOVE IT OR GET OUT" by the right wing?
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[QUOTE=Ca5bah;16613730]
why can't you stay out of american matters? other countries call us nosey for getting into other matters, which is true, but other countries are also hypocrites.[/QUOTE]
they have a right to get in our business because our business is affecting them
[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16613761]where were you the last 8 years?
Where were you during the last 8 years of "AMERICA: LOVE IT OR GET OUT" by the right wing?[/QUOTE]
Yeah I don't like Republicans either. You either support the war or you're a terrorist with them.
I like to call myself a Libertarian.
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