Townhall protests against "Obamacare" turned into battle zones - Polidicks

Yes because if republicans oppose it there are clearly no logical reasons for anyone else to oppose it.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16681789]Yes because if republicans oppose it there are clearly no logical reasons for anyone else to oppose it.[/QUOTE] I know your being sarcastic. But the answer is... Yeah. There isn't. Ignorant people are the only ones disagreeing. They should learn the truth. Not what they see on FOX.

[QUOTE=TM Gmod;16682008]I know your being sarcastic. But the answer is... Yeah. There isn't. Ignorant people are the only ones disagreeing. They should learn the truth. Not what they see on FOX.[/QUOTE] Yes. I disagree with the bill on the foundation of many years of higher legal education and many more years of political research. I am ignorant. Have you read the bill? [editline]09:46PM[/editline] FYI it is nothing like the Canadian or European system of health care. [editline]09:47PM[/editline] Oh I forgot you are too ignorant to have actually read a single page of any one of the dozens of proposals. [editline]09:47PM[/editline] You should learn the truth, not what you see on MSNBC.

New idea. Republicans succeed from the US and form their own country, It'll basically be the same except like the way America is in 2505 in Idiocracy.

[QUOTE=TM Gmod;16682160]New idea. Republicans succeed from the US and form their own country, It'll basically be the same except like the way America is in 2505 in Idiocracy.[/QUOTE] If you can't spell, chances are you can't foresee the effects of a piece of legislation you haven't read. But I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=TM Gmod;16682160]New idea. Republicans succeed from the US and form their own country, It'll basically be the same except like the way America is in 2505 in Idiocracy.[/QUOTE] New idea: You stop posting. The new proposal will now be open to the House for debate.

[QUOTE=Bean-O;16555024]The plan (as I can best gather since I'm not reading a 1200 page bill) is to reform the healthcare and insurance system by regulating the fuck out of it. The pros are that it should provide the average person with health insurance and healthcare for free while at the same time banning a lot of the shady practices the insurance companies and hospitals pull on a daily basis. The cons are that noting is free since this will have to be paid for by hiking taxes and government regulation isn't always a good thing. Just because it is the government doing it that doesn't mean they will do it right. Also people on both sides tend point at the Canadian system. The liberals claim it is wonderful since it is free for the recipient, the conservatives claim it sucks because it raises the taxes and people can be on waiting lists for years to get a transplant they need within hours (in more extreme cases, of course).[/QUOTE] Ehhh sounds like they should have reworked our amazing tax system first then. They already take 40% of the average citizens income. [editline]10:58PM[/editline] [QUOTE=thisispain;16556240]not really france has a lower income tax, doesn't pay VAT, and has a much lower corperate tax the united states is actually one of the highest taxed places in the world. [editline]11:51PM[/editline] just look at this [img]http://alaskakid.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/taxes01.jpg?w=318&h=631[/img][/QUOTE] NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! Seriously, over 40%, come on people. [editline]11:04PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TM Gmod;16681753]What is with all the ignorant republicans? Just look at the UK's national health service, enacted after the war, and funded by taxes (that are NOT absurdly high) and provide free health care. Canada has the same system, and France, and every other civilised country... Except USA. Obama is trying to install the same system, tax the rich and the upper middle classes (who in USA are too fucking rich anyway) and use the money to make a FREE healthcare system for ALL, not the rich only. And it does not take too long to get operations, ailments are treated by severity and constant check-ups are done before treatment to assess if people require more urgent work done. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING THEIR WALLET TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL :) /rant Now please, please, PLEASE tell the other ignorant people what Universal healthcare ACTUALLY is about, not stupid bias Faux news Fearmongering EDIT: Oh and by the way. Find USA on here... [url]http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html[/url][/QUOTE] God poop it, people don't like it because the average american is already in a fucking vise grip with their income. If nobody can make money then we're all fucking doomed you tree hugging princess jiggle tit.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;16681472]I believe there should be a median between natural selection and governmental health care.[/QUOTE] I think you should be kicked in the face for using the phrase "natural selection" when discussing civics

god poop it

[QUOTE=Fekel Die Juden;16684352]Ehhh sounds like they should have reworked our amazing tax system first then. They already take 40% of the average citizens income.[/QUOTE] I don't think "top corporate tax rate" means the same thing as "income tax rate"

[QUOTE=Lankist;16682268]New idea: You stop posting. The new proposal will now be open to the House for debate.[/QUOTE] Yea.

[QUOTE=Lankist;16682022] FYI it is nothing like the Canadian or European system of health care. [/QUOTE] So what's your opinion on a single-payer system like Canada has? Do you think it would be better or worse than Obama's plan?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;16684754]So what's your opinion on a single-payer system like Canada has? Do you think it would be better or worse than Obama's plan?[/QUOTE] I think I have given you three chances to talk rationally and factually and you have thus far coined such golden hits such as "Africans should die so we can grow corn," "Africans rape virgins" and "The RIAA is essentially a government law enforcement agency"

[QUOTE=Lankist;16684792]I think I have given you three chances to talk rationally and factually and you have thus far coined such golden hits such as "Africans should die so we can grow corn," "Africans rape virgins" and "The RIAA is essentially a government law enforcement agency"[/QUOTE] The last two had shreds of truth in them, as I cited sources on both. The first one was me being an asshole/shitposting, as I usually do outside of any serious debate. You're active in every political debate on the forum. We're going to keep bumping into each other, so it would be dumb for you to just ignore me. (And even dumber to keep cross-referencing debates that have nothing to do with each other) Besides, it seems like we're going to agree on this one anyway.

Americans molest children

[QUOTE=TH89;16686087]Americans molest children[/QUOTE] Some do, yup.

[QUOTE=TH89;16686087]Americans molest children[/QUOTE] death to america