Townhall protests against "Obamacare" turned into battle zones - Polidicks

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16553632]For once, we are in agreement.[/QUOTE] Sam Tilgan are you a birther?

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;16553648]Since when have you ever disagreed with me? Oh, you thought I was Sigma-Lambda.[/QUOTE] Wait, I thought you were Sigma-Lambda.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553639]Obama is actually a Socialist which "is somewhere between our democracy like we have and like, fascism like the nazis and terrorists have and communism or something" according to an attender of a McCain campaign rally.[/QUOTE] Lolwut.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553649]Sam Tilgan are you a birther?[/QUOTE] ...what's a birther? :v:

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16553657]Wait, I thought you were Sigma-Lambda.[/QUOTE] Gotcha! [img]http://themelononline.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/amd_obama-points.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16553667]...what's a birther? :v:[/QUOTE] Do you think Obama was not born in the US?

DAMMIT didn't see that @ JDK's post I mean And I think it's possible, could go either way... I need more evidence before taking a position, POLOPOZOZO

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553500]You know the funny thing is that all of these protests are orchestrated by big groups funded entirely by Koch Industries, the world's largest oil corporations, in fact, many of the people in the crowds worked for the Bush administration and other things that make them anything BUT regular American citizens, which is actually worse because you'd expect average American citizens to be stupid and misinformed.[/QUOTE] What have you been drinking?

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553500]You know the funny thing is that all of these protests are orchestrated by big groups funded entirely by Koch Industries, the world's largest oil corporations, in fact, many of the people in the crowds worked for the Bush administration and other things that make them anything BUT regular American citizens, which is actually worse because you'd expect average American citizens to be stupid and misinformed. It pays to watch Rachael Maddow, the best show of its type around. [editline]10:34PM[/editline] Bu bu it keeeeeeels old peoplez bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww jesus [editline]10:35PM[/editline] obemas a muuuuhslem[/QUOTE] Why would you trust your news from a dike? [img]http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/blog/maddow.jpg[/img] [URL=http://filesmelt.com/][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Untitled3.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://filesmelt.com/][IMG]http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Untitled21.png[/IMG][/URL] Oh - and protests are not orchestrated. People are frightened by their congressmen, people who they elected to represent them. That is what draws people to be discontented with what is on the table. Not some oil consortium bent on disseminating spurious information.

Old people after Obamacare comes into effect: [img]http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5757/hnngsu5.jpg[/img] :v:

I trust her more than the queen of dykes. [IMG]http://i25.tinypic.com/787b.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/24q3ds6.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i30.tinypic.com/ic06cj.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i27.tinypic.com/2qn7e36.png[/IMG] AND BLAMO THERE IT IS. [editline]10:54PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;16553705]What have you been drinking?[/QUOTE] A big batch of reality juice, maybe you should try some. Really, the only people who have something to loose are the corporations who just LOVE it when you get sick and give them money.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16553788] A big batch of reality juice, maybe you should try some. Really, the only people who have something to loose are the corporations who just LOVE it when you get sick and give them money.[/QUOTE] So you think that these companies call thousands of people, person by person, to tell them to go take place in town hall meetings across the country HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Are this many people going to do something just because some company tells them to? No, they're here of their own free will.

The most hilarious part of this whole debate is when they pull out the ridiculasly complicated charts and rant about how hard it is to get to a doctor in Canada, and how terrible our health care is, when in reality nothing they say is true, we have great healthcare, it meets all our needs. The thing that gets me is when they get on about wait times being longer if there is public health care, well of course they'll be longer, thats what happens when everybody is able to get treatment. Its funny that the same people that would condemn a portion of the population to death for their convenience are the people that oppose abortions.

[QUOTE=Novistador;16553893]The most hilarious part of this whole debate is when they pull out the ridiculasly complicated charts and rant about how hard it is to get to a doctor in Canada, and how terrible our health care is, when in reality nothing they say is true, we have great healthcare, it meets all our needs. The thing that gets me is when they get on about wait times being longer if there is public health care, well of course they'll be longer, thats what happens when everybody is able to get treatment. Its funny that the same people that would condemn a portion of the population to death for their convenience are the people that oppose abortions.[/QUOTE] Your post confuses me. Which side are you on?

Hunreds of thousands of people... haha. Maybe I should list you all of the websites designed to tell you where and how to fuck up cvilized townhall meetings? Maybe you should take a look at all of the conservative media throwing around complete myths about healthcare? This is all done to protect big business so they keep making profit while ACTUAL millions of people, unlike your hudreds of thousands of people that don't exist, are uninsured. They will say ANYTHING to make it seem like they are not the party of "no", who instead of caring for American citizens, only care for the biggest of the big corporations. [editline]11:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=snuwoods;16553710] Oh - and protests are not orchestrated. People are frightened by their congressmen, people who they elected to represent them. That is what draws people to be discontented with what is on the table. Not some oil consortium bent on disseminating spurious information.[/QUOTE]You've sure got a lot of proof there that these violent morons are correctly informed and aren't pushed by some other entity, yep. AND STAY AWAY FROM MAH MEDICARE OBAMUH!!1

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16553728]Old people after Obamacare comes into effect: [img]http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5757/hnngsu5.jpg[/img] :v:[/QUOTE] somebody explain the joke to me because i dont get it

[QUOTE=ImBill;16554077]somebody explain the joke to me because i dont get it[/QUOTE] apparently healthbama will trigger a microchip in all over-65 citizens, causing instant death

[QUOTE=ImBill;16554077]somebody explain the joke to me because i dont get it[/QUOTE] There was a rumour going round that if they got state healthcare, no one above 70 would be allowed near a hospital or a doctor. Or something.

The Republicans are acting REAL classy on this one. Spewing the same complete falsehoods over and over again to con people into getting angry and scared, then using community groups with warm and funny names directly funded and run by the health insurance industry to send said angry, scared people to disrupt and destroy meetings instead of participating in them. Plus, the constant, constant Fox pundits comparisons of Obama to Hitler, as if to say "Well, Obama is just like Hitler, and we all know what he deserved...right?" Someone is going to wind up dead, and the blood is gonna be all over the right's hands.

The elderly will have a lower priority than other people under Obamacare. If the state has to spend money on healthcare for people, and they have a limited budget (WE HAVE NO MONEY RIGHT NOW, WHY IS PASSING THIS A GOOD IDEA), the most productive members of society (and politicians) will be the highest priority recipients. The elderly, being in the twilight of their lives, will not be considered useful enough for major surgeries and the like. (i.e. bypasses, organ transplants) [editline]12:32AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;16554250]The Republicans are acting REAL classy on this one. Spewing the same complete falsehoods over and over again to con people into getting angry and scared, then using community groups with warm and funny names directly funded and run by the health insurance industry to send said angry, scared people to disrupt and destroy meetings instead of participating in them. Plus, the constant, constant Fox pundits comparisons of Obama to Hitler, as if to say "Well, Obama is just like Hitler, and we all know what he deserved...right?" Someone is going to wind up dead, and the blood is gonna be all over the right's hands.[/QUOTE] Please, tell me what groups are sending people out to do this.

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16554281]The elderly will have a lower priority than other people under Obamacare. If the state has to spend money on healthcare for people, and they have a limited budget (WE HAVE NO MONEY RIGHT NOW, WHY IS PASSING THIS A GOOD IDEA), the most productive members of society (and politicians) will be the highest priority recipients. The elderly, being in the twilight of their lives, will not be considered useful enough for major surgeries and the like. (i.e. bypasses, organ transplants) [/QUOTE] I'd like to see a source that elderly people will be a lower priority, go ahead and try to find something genuine, not off of Hannity's blog or something. Right we have no money, that's why we stay in two wars but passing something for the benefit of our own citizens nooo that's bad.

[QUOTE=Novistador;16553893]The most hilarious part of this whole debate is when they pull out the ridiculasly complicated charts and rant about how hard it is to get to a doctor in Canada, and how terrible our health care is, when in reality nothing they say is true, we have great healthcare, it meets all our needs. [/QUOTE] No it doesn't. Canada has better general healthcare, like if you need to go to the doctor for strep throat or something small, but for stuff that requires specialists and expensive equipment(cancer treatment, for example) they suck. thousands of Canadians come into the US for treatment because Canadian Healthcare can't cover the big stuff. My mom actually knows quite a few Canadians who [i]have[/i] to come into the USA for treatment. And this is coming from someone who for the most part supports government healthcare(I don't think hospitals should be businesses). I just think now is not the time to put in any healthcare plan considering we have already wasted trillions of dollars(shit, people on the left were angry about Bush putting us into a deficit but when Obama does it it isn't a problem).

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16554281] Please, tell me what groups are sending people out to do this.[/QUOTE] I know this is kind of stupid, but this says it all: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl91YF1d3Kg[/media] I don't care if she is a dyke she's right and she has proof. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;16554490] I just think now is not the time to put in any healthcare plan considering we have already wasted trillions of dollars(shit, people on the left were angry about Bush putting us into a deficit but when Obama does it it isn't a problem).[/QUOTE] Hope you realize healthcare is the biggest part of our deficit, genius.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16554434]I'd like to see a source that elderly people will be a lower priority, go ahead and try to find something genuine, not off of Hannity's blog or something. Right we have no money, that's why we stay in two wars but passing something for the benefit of our own citizens nooo that's bad.[/QUOTE] I'm not for staying in 2 wars, I think the wars are unnecessary to say the very very least. I think that we are spending too much money on unnecessary bullshit so now we don't really have to money to spend it on something that could actually be good. [editline]04:49AM[/editline] [QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16554493]I know this is kind of stupid, but this says it all: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl91YF1d3Kg[/media] I don't care if she is a dyke she's right and she has proof. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [/quote] She is just as trustworthy as Hannity. [quote]Hope you realize healthcare is the biggest part of our deficit, genius.[/QUOTE] Umm how about the trillions spent in stimulus? Or the unholy amount of money spent funding the military?

Thisispain you are so fucking awesome bro.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16554434]I'd like to see a source that elderly people will be a lower priority, go ahead and try to find something genuine, not off of Hannity's blog or something. Right we have no money, that's why we stay in two wars but passing something for the benefit of our own citizens nooo that's bad.[/QUOTE] I think that now is not the best time for health care reform, though I do believe health care needs changing. (I work in the medical field right now.) Changing health care is gonna rattle a lot of cages with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, etc and economically, these groups make up a respectable chunk of our economy. It is already expensive to fight the war we are in (not getting into whether we should be there or not), and I think changing things at home will overburden our already shitty economy. I think now is the time to focus more on the economy and the war, not health care.

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16554281] Please, tell me what groups are sending people out to do this.[/QUOTE] First two that come to mind are FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity. Sure, they're nice-sounding names, but they're essentially just corporate/Republican mouthpieces to blatantly lie to people until they think Obama's death panels are going to have their elderly or disabled loved ones euthanized. Americans for Prosperity is actually busing said pissed-off stupid people to the meetings ([url]http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/BUSS23_20090722-222402/281595/[/url]) for the sole purpose of disrupting them, as outlined in this here memo: [url]http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/townhallactionmemo.pdf[/url]. They basically tell their little mob to avoid getting into an intelligent debate, and instead scream, yell, and disrupt things to PREVENT intelligent debate. Oh, BTW, Americans for Prosperity is run by a fella named Art Pope, who is a multimillionare that has given so much money to the Republican party, they named their North Carolina headquarters building after him. Their national chairman is David Koch, the 19th richest man in the world and another huge contributor to right-wing efforts. These aren't average ordinary middle-class people concerned about healthcare, they're outrageously rich far-righters exploiting stupid people's fears to push their own personal agendas. There's no massive grassroots opposition movement, just a bunch of corporate-funded manufactured outrage made to LOOK like a grassroots movement.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;16554493]I know this is kind of stupid, but this says it all: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl91YF1d3Kg[/media] I don't care if she is a dyke she's right and she has proof.[/QUOTE] Except this system [I]is[/I] a communist healthcare system. Same care for everyone. Oops, except for the major politicians (i.e. senators, president, representatives...); I guess they're more 'equal' than us. Why shouldn't we be able to pick what care we want? There's a provision in it that says if you lose your private healthcare, guess what, you can't go to another private insurer.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;16554525] She is just as trustworthy as Hannity. [/QUOTE] Yes because she loves spreading around bullshit rumors with no proof or logic at all, just like Hannity. [editline]12:02AM[/editline] [QUOTE=SPNKr;16554607]I think that now is not the best time for health care reform, though I do believe health care needs changing. (I work in the medical field right now.) Changing health care is gonna rattle a lot of cages with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, etc and economically, these groups make up a respectable chunk of our economy. It is already expensive to fight the war we are in (not getting into whether we should be there or not), and I think changing things at home will overburden our already shitty economy. I think now is the time to focus more on the economy and the war, not health care.[/QUOTE] No now is not the time to focus on the war at all, we should have left years ago or not started at all, the econmy is in the middle of stabilizing and it doesn't look like there is anything from this bill that will stop that.

[QUOTE=SPNKr;16554607]I think that now is not the best time for health care reform, though I do believe health care needs changing. (I work in the medical field right now.) Changing health care is gonna rattle a lot of cages with hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, etc and economically, these groups make up a respectable chunk of our economy. It is already expensive to fight the war we are in (not getting into whether we should be there or not), and I think changing things at home will overburden our already shitty economy. I think now is the time to focus more on the economy and the war, not health care.[/QUOTE] And that is why you are a gold member - you speak sense in a land of senselessness.