Townhall protests against "Obamacare" turned into battle zones

[Sams Brume]

The way you win an argument is by being right, not being nice and polite.

[evilking1]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16564677]Arguments work via intelligent debate. (Or at least they [I]should[/I])

Not mindless insults.[/QUOTE]

:downsbravo:

[Xystus234]

Bredirish123, you're a goddamn sociopath, you know that.? Not everyone is poor because they're lazy you pompous bastard. Get off you're prepaid, government insured ass and go talk to some people, you know, who live in reality and knows what it's like to actually [b]work[/b] and [b]earn[/b] a living, rather than sitting on their ass, seeing as you tend to look down on people less fortunate than you.

Seriously. Catch HIV or something and see how it feels to be in constant medical debt.

[Canuhearme?]

[QUOTE=Xystus234;16565213]Bredirish123, you're a goddamn sociopath, you know that.? Not everyone is poor because they're lazy you pompous bastard. Get off you're prepaid, government insured ass and go talk to some people, you know, who live in reality and knows what it's like to actually [b]work[/b] and [b]earn[/b] a living, rather than sitting on their ass, seeing as you tend to look down on people less fortunate than you.

Seriously. Catch HIV or something and see how it feels to be in constant medical debt.[/QUOTE]

The problem is, with finite resources you can't save everyone.

[evilking1]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;16565300]The problem is, with finite resources you can't save everyone.[/QUOTE]
But you could always cut the middle hand known as "Insurance company".

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;16565300]The problem is, with finite resources you can't save everyone.[/QUOTE]

We have plenty of resources to provide effective Health Care to everyone in America. Stop trying to justify not giving a fuck about your fellow human beings.

[DoritoBanditV2]

I like how people are always like: "OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST AND YOU VOTED FOR HIM! DID YOU KNOW THAT?!"

And i'm like "Hell yeah, i knew it."

Socialism doesn't sound too bad...

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE=DoritoBanditV2;16565479]I like how people are always like: "OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST AND YOU VOTED FOR HIM! DID YOU KNOW THAT?!"

And i'm like "Hell yeah, i knew it."

Socialism doesn't sound too bad...[/QUOTE]

too bad he's nowhere near a socialist

[POLOPOZOZO]

[QUOTE=DoritoBanditV2;16565479]I like how people are always like: "OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST AND YOU VOTED FOR HIM! DID YOU KNOW THAT?!"

And i'm like "Hell yeah, i knew it."

Socialism doesn't sound too bad...[/QUOTE]There was a lady in front of me in the drive through of a bank and she had a bumper sticker that said "Don't blame me, I voted for McCain" and then I got angry but the I saw the one right below it that said "Children are a gift from GOD" and then I lol'd.

Then I got angry again because that dumb bitch sat there for 20 fucking minutes and everyone had left in every other lane at least twice while she was there.

[DamagePoint]

It's the right's fault, mostly. People like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh trying to terrorize people to get their ratings up. Honestly, if it weren't for figures like them this healthcare debate would be a lot more civil.

[Used Car Salesm]

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;16567438]It's the right's fault, mostly. People like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh trying to terrorize people to get their ratings up. Honestly, if it weren't for figures like them this healthcare debate would be a lot more civil.[/QUOTE]

This. These disruption protests (and they are nothing more than attempts to disrupt and shut down actual democratic process) are the result of constantly spewed lies to scare people. If it wern't for the fact that they've got all these old white people scared that Obama is going to have them killed, we could actually have a real debate that would generate something positive. Instead we've got an incredibly tense situation just waiting for someone to shove it over the edge into violence.

[{FP}ST]

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;16567438]It's the right's fault, mostly. People like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh trying to terrorize people to get their ratings up. Honestly, if it weren't for figures like them this healthcare debate would be a lot more civil.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the terror is real.

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567730]Maybe the terror is real.[/QUOTE]

lol

[thisispain]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567730]Maybe the terror is real.[/QUOTE]

no not really

blame yourself, you are stupid enough to believe whatever people say on TV, and you believe it because Glenn Beck gives you the idea that's he's an average American conservative, who pays his taxes, and only wants the best for the people in his country, and he does it by crying and being overly defensive towards the people challenging his country, while really, you are playing into his hand so he can tell you anything he wants, and he'll tell you exactly what you want to hear, and you'll watch it again, because people want to hear what they want to hear.

If you think Glenn Beck really cares about anything except his ratings, then you are a sad naive child. And I guess that matches the description, doesn't it? Just a bunch of sad naive childeren that believe Obama is the anti-christ/Obama is the savior of mankind/Bush did 911/Black people are the scum of the earth/Hitler was a cool guy.

[{FP}ST]

[QUOTE=thisispain;16567920]no not really

blame yourself, you are stupid enough to believe whatever people say on TV, and you believe it because Glenn Beck gives you the idea that's he's an average American conservative, who pays his taxes, and only wants the best for the people in his country, and he does it by crying and being overly defensive towards the people challenging his country, while really, you are playing into his hand so he can tell you anything he wants, and he'll tell you exactly what you want to hear, and you'll watch it again, because people want to hear what they want to hear.

If you think Glenn Beck really cares about anything except his ratings, then you are a sad naive child. And I guess that matches the description, doesn't it? Just a bunch of sad naive childeren that believe Obama is the anti-christ/Obama is the savior of mankind/Bush did 911/Black people are the scum of the earth/Hitler was a cool guy.[/QUOTE]

I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.[/QUOTE]

hadfhgudfaghahahahahahahahhahahahah

[DamagePoint]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.[/QUOTE]

Like what? How Obama is a socialist? A racist? Or how he was born outside the country?

[{FP}ST]

[QUOTE=DamagePoint;16568057]Like what? Obama is a socialist? A racist? Or how he was born outside the country?[/QUOTE]

Socialist? Yes. Communist, probably.

Racist? High probability. He seems obsessed with the issue of race.

Born outside the US? I don't know about this one. There's just as much evidence on both sides of the argument.

[Used Car Salesm]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.[/QUOTE]

Pfffftbwahahahaha. Wow, your credibility just got shot to shit.

[{FP}ST]

[QUOTE=Sigma-Lambda;16568041]hadfhgudfaghahahahahahahahhahahahah[/QUOTE]

I would appreciate a coherent post.

[thisispain]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, their news sources are completely correct, of course, you can't make up world events.

But that's the trick behind Yellow Journalism. You take fact, distort it, and play it to peoples views. Fox News didn't start conservatism, that already existed, Fox News played at conservatism, and they constantly push the idea that their are the only fair ones, and that they don't hate conservatives, and they do that constantly, so all the conservatives will get pulled in and they can further their ratings.

Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, hell, even Keith Olbermann, are simply people who know how to do one thing, fool dumb people and sell shit to them using advertisement. I bet you the views that they present on TV aren't even theirs.

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16568129]I would appreciate a coherent post.[/QUOTE]

Ok, how about this:

There is literally no valid evidence that Barack Obama was born outside the country.

[url=http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp]The birth certificate he has provided is real[/url], which is further verified by two separate mentions of his birth in Hawaiian newspapers.

[url=http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp]Claims that he must have used a non-us passport to travel to Pakistan are false[/url]

[thisispain]

That's the problem with you Americans. Everything is taken to the extreme. Even our Daily Mail isn't as bad as your News channels.

[sp00ks]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.[/QUOTE]

bwaaahahahaha

[{FP}ST]

[QUOTE=thisispain;16568149]Yeah, their news sources are completely correct, of course, you can't make up world events.

But that's the trick behind Yellow Journalism. You take fact, distort it, and play it to peoples views. Fox News didn't start conservatism, that already existed, Fox News played at conservatism, and they constantly push the idea that their are the only fair ones, and that they don't hate conservatives, and they do that constantly, so all the conservatives will get pulled in and they can further their ratings.

Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, hell, even Keith Olbermann, are simply people who know how to do one thing, fool dumb people and sell shit to them using advertisement. [B]I bet you the views that they present on TV aren't even theirs.[/B][/QUOTE]

You have serious problems if you believe that.

Also, what have any of these people tried to sell me, besides their books?

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE=thisispain;16568184]That's the problem with you Americans. Everything is taken to the extreme. Even our Daily Mail isn't as bad as your News channels.[/QUOTE]

no, the Daily Mail is pretty godawful

[sp00ks]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16568204]
Also, what have any of these people tried to sell me, besides their books?[/QUOTE]

ummm....

[Billiam]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16567994]I think Glenn Beck is one of the most trustworthy sources of news we have(despite his bias). Check what he says, it's almost always true.

And next, you'll be after Rush, who happens to be correct 99.2% of the time, according to independent analysis.[/QUOTE]

:geno:

[Sigma-Lambda]

[QUOTE={FP}ST;16568204]You have serious problems if you believe that.

Also, what have any of these people tried to sell me, besides their books?[/QUOTE]

Their advertising dollars. You're getting the commercials played in between their segments.

Still, I want you to explain to be how you think that it's possible that Obama isn't a U.S. citizen when there is no valid evidence to back that up.

[Coldlead]

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sorry, it made me lol