Phoenix boy, 14, shoots armed intruder while watching three younger siblings - Polidicks

[QUOTE=BigOwl;36472085]That's a dumb law, that gives them plenty of time to react, and attack you.[/QUOTE] It was like that in Florida till not too long ago when the "stand your ground" law came into effect. You still can't shoot people in the back because that looks like they are leaving/fleeing but there's nothing saying you can't shoot to kill, like a headshot. So long as you are without a doubt in fear for your life, you can shoot to kill. Otherwise, you get thrown in prison for murder. I'm [i]not[/i] saying you should, but you can if absolutely necessary. The cops also can [i]not[/i] legally tell you weather you can or can't shoot for fear your gonna get killed yourself.

[QUOTE=faze;36472033]Depending on the state you have to give them a chance to flee.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'll go to trial before I let some criminal get the upper hand on me. You think they're going to stop because I gave them a warning? Nope.

[QUOTE=D3TBS;36472341]All those hours spent in Call Of Duty payed off.[/QUOTE] I don't think every 14 year old out there plays COD. I mean look at this kid, he was looking after his siblings, the kids I've played COD with either A)Disrespects there parents and hates their siblings B)Would run and hide instead of helping younger siblings But usually it's C)A combination of both Besides everyone knows COD is not the slightest realistic when it comes to weapons.

The Kid did the right thing, I just hope that he isn't scarred for life. I guess it would be worse if the guy died

[QUOTE=Liem;36472782]The Kid did the right thing, I just hope that he isn't scarred for life. I guess it would be worse if the guy died[/QUOTE] The guy psychologically damaged the entire family, especially the kid. The least that shitbag can do is die.

[QUOTE=Bound;36472791]The guy psychologically damaged the entire family, especially the kid. The least that shitbag can do is die.[/QUOTE] So he gets the easy way out? I never got the whole, death makes things right idea.

[QUOTE=Bound;36472791]The guy psychologically damaged the entire family, especially the kid. The least that shitbag can do is die.[/QUOTE] It would probably fuck up the kid even more if the guy died.

[QUOTE=GhostSonic;36472956]It would probably fuck up the kid even more if the guy died.[/QUOTE] I have plenty of siblings but six of them are younger then me and two of those are babies. If I read the article it said the man broke down the door and had a gun, if somebody came into my house with the intent to kill and I had my brother and sisters in the house, I would be glad if the fuckhead died.

[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;36472736]I don't think every 14 year old out there plays COD. I mean look at this kid, he was looking after his siblings, the kids I've played COD with either A)Disrespects there parents and hates their siblings B)Would run and hide instead of helping younger siblings But usually it's C)A combination of both Besides everyone knows COD is not the slightest realistic when it comes to weapons.[/QUOTE] it was... ...a joke

[QUOTE=YourFriendJoe;36472736]I don't think every 14 year old out there plays COD. I mean look at this kid, he was looking after his siblings, the kids I've played COD with either A)Disrespects there parents and hates their siblings B)Would run and hide instead of helping younger siblings But usually it's C)A combination of both Besides everyone knows COD is not the slightest realistic when it comes to weapons.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Popping one shot doesn't make you aim four feet off target, like COD. It depends far more on skill, arm strength and the power of the weapon. Full auto does sway off from target some with smaller autos like mp5s and the like, but an m16 or AR-.22LR is not gonna spray an entire target. It can, but not if you know how to control the weapon.

That kid deserves a medal for protecting his family.

I accidentally entered the wrong house once. I was high as fuck and was supposed to be walking into my friends house, but I was at the one next door. A mother and her small kid were sitting on the living room on the floor and I'm like "So, just go to the basement?" and they had this shocked look on their face, but I didn't realize it what was up. Out of nowhere the father comes around the corner and is right in my face yelling "What are you doing!" and it sorta clicked I was in the wrong house at that moment. I got out that door so fast apologizing profusely, saying it was the wrong house. Still though I felt so ashamed and I know they probably didn't believe me. If they were the kind of people who shot first without warnings or anything, yeah I'd be dead because of something like that.

[QUOTE=Fahrenheit;36473437]I accidentally entered the wrong house once. I was high as fuck and was supposed to be walking into my friends house, but I was at the one next door. A mother and her small kid were sitting on the living room on the floor and I'm like "So, just go to the basement?" and they had this shocked look on their face, but I didn't realize it what was up. Out of nowhere the father comes around the corner and is right in my face yelling "What are you doing!" and it sorta clicked I was in the wrong house at that moment. I got out that door so fast apologizing profusely, saying it was the wrong house. Still though I felt so ashamed and I know they probably didn't believe me. If they were the kind of people who shot first without warnings or anything, yeah I'd be dead because of something like that.[/QUOTE] Which is why announcing you're armed before coming out shooting is a good idea.

[QUOTE=The DooD;36472257]I wonder if it's possible, maybe kids that have access to firearms should be taught obviously gun safety, but also how to neutralise an intruder with reduced chance of killing them. I don't know if that's feasible, or how lucky the kid got in this case, but it's good that he managed to shoot him without killing him.[/QUOTE] #1 Rule of Firearms Handling: Never draw your firearm unless you intend someone to die. If you don't expect someone to be killed by your firearm, you probably shouldn't be carrying it in your hand. People don't usually shoot to injure anyways, It's just by sheer lack of shot placement (Usually a lucky center-mass shot that only collapsed the lungs or something like that.) that these people survive.

My dad taught me to do this at 13, luckily never had to like this kid but good job to him

Whoa! Guys we got a bad ass in here! :pwn:

[QUOTE=The DooD;36472257]I wonder if it's possible, maybe kids that have access to firearms should be taught obviously gun safety, but also how to neutralise an intruder with reduced chance of killing them. I don't know if that's feasible, or how lucky the kid got in this case, but it's good that he managed to shoot him without killing him.[/QUOTE] This was a (probably) one-handed panicked shot by a 14 year old boy who has probably never fired a gun before in his life. The fact that he hit him at all is lucky.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;36474973]This was a (probably) one-handed panicked shot by a 14 year old boy who has probably never fired a gun before in his life. The fact that he hit him at all is lucky.[/QUOTE] You're speculating.

[QUOTE=faze;36474997]You're speculating.[/QUOTE] How so, with the one-handed and no experience part? I guess that would be but I doubt he would be able to remain completely calm and make a perfectly accurate shot in a situation like that.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;36474973]This was a (probably) one-handed panicked shot by a 14 year old boy who has probably never fired a gun before in his life. The fact that he hit him at all is lucky.[/QUOTE] And why do you say that? I'm curious with your reasoning behind that. Why do you think he never fire a gun before? I'm pretty sure he did because if he didn't he would probably be stuck on figuring out how to fire it.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;36475040]How so, with the one-handed and no experience part? I guess that would be but I doubt he would be able to remain completely calm and make a perfectly accurate shot in a situation like that.[/QUOTE] You are totally guessing. You don't know this kid at all. By 14 I was a damn good shot. I wasn't some kid who never saw or fired a weapon before. Not sure why we're having this discussion. We should be praising him for his brave actions.

At least he shot someone who needed shooting, rather than the usual case of some kid killing himself because he was dicking around with a gun he didn't know how to use [quote]Holmes said that the gun the teen grabbed was his father's, but did not know whether the boy had been trained to use it.[/quote] Here's to hoping the parents weren't retarded, and didn't leave out a handgun where a child could find it without being taught how not to use it

I feel happy that I find this story sad. On every aspect.

[QUOTE=NielsGade;36474768]That's dumb. So a jobless father who has 3 starving children at home has to risk his life to provide for his children? There's a reason we see so much robbing in the states. If a person can't provide for himself, he has no other choice than to steal. I'm done with you gun nutjobs that think taking another life is acceptable. You oppose death sentence, but think it's alright for a 14 year old to take another life? What's wrong with you? Have you gotten so used to death? A 14 year old boy TOOK A LIFE. And you praise him for it. That is insane.[/QUOTE] I think you forgot the part where the guy busting into the house had a gun. If you're really that desperate then sell your gun instead of using it for aggravated B&E. What I'm saying is you're fucking retarded

[QUOTE=NielsGade;36475486]You think he would have shot the children? Not only that, but the only reason he had the gun was because it was available.[/QUOTE] How come you're thinking the man committing aggravated B&E can possibly be a nice guy who was just desperate for food. There's no side to his story so that makes me believe the only reason he was doing the crime was because he was a criminal, not because he was a desperate dad facing hard times. People who do the tactic I mentioned earlier in this thread are generally not nice people in a shitty situation. They're shitbag sub-human scums of the Earth.

Any decent firearm can sell for enough to pay for some bills and food, you don't have to resort to criminal acts. Also, I don't care if someone's a person, if a stranger breaks into my house and even poses the remotely slightest amount of threat to me or my family's lives I will fucking end theirs in a heartbeat. The people who's lives I care about far outweigh some stupid dangerous shitbag criminal's.

[QUOTE=NielsGade;36475590]You are insane.[/QUOTE] Uh, no. If someone breaks down my front door and is holding a weapon I will shoot them, sorry.

[QUOTE=Bound;36475596]Uh, no. If someone breaks down my front door and is holding a weapon I will shoot them, sorry.[/QUOTE] If someone has the energy required to literally smash a locked door off its frame before you are able to call 911, you would be better off worrying about the fact that the Hulk is going to kill you.

[QUOTE=NielsGade;36475617][video=youtube;sWS-FoXbjVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI[/video] Good luck Bound. You'll need it.[/QUOTE] This isn't a USA thing, what would you do if someone kicked in your front door and had a machete or something. Beg him to stop? Hide in your room and wait 5+ minutes for police to arrive? I'd hope if he was going to harm your family you'd do something to stop him. [editline]25th June 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=_jesterk;36475622]If someone has the energy required to literally smash a locked door off its frame before you are able to call 911, you'd be better off worrying about how the Hulk is going to kill you.[/QUOTE] This entire thread is about a guy who broke down the front door of a house and entered the domain with a weapon.

[QUOTE=Bound;36472319] YOU DO NOT SHOOT SOMEONE TO WOUND, NEVER EVER. YOU SHOOT TO KILL. [/QUOTE] actually, you shoot to neutralize the threat. in this case, that would be shooting until the robber's floored and unable to cause harm. no court will protect you if you up and execute people once you've shot them to the ground. if killing the threat happens or is a result of the shooting then that's a different story, but the legal system doesn't protect unwarranted killing. also kudos the kid. i think teaching kids basic gun usage is important. if you grow up and aren't able to defend yourself, you're at a disadvantage.