The camera's date was wrong simple as that. That still don't mean you can kill people armed with childish shit.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22344977]Slingshots can be almost deadly with sharp rocks etc. How did David kill Goliath?[/QUOTE]
The will of God, heathen.
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[url]http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/a0cd548/[/url]
[url]http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/febe7cd/[/url]
I see all those years of top-notch training in advanced technical equipment is finally paying off.
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Shit it probably wasn't even their camera. They just stole one from a passenger.
Hey, didn't Stalin try to do this to get the West Berliners to give in to his demands?
Yeah that turned out well.
You know, the US could probably save a lot of its defence budget if they decided to switch all their weapons over to slingshots.
I mean, slingshots are now considered deadly, to the extent that lethal force is authorised to take out anyone suspected of holding one, by the IDF, considered by many to be one of the top elite military units of the world, so that should mean something.
Someone should really write a letter to the president about this brilliant idea.
[QUOTE=Splurgy;22343140]To be fair, I'm more inclined to think that someone didn't set the clock than it's an Israeli conspiracy[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's a pretty reasonable explanation.
Jugulum, now you're over exaggerating.
As far as we know, they have used lethal weapons against people who were a clear risk to their life. You are accusing them over assumptions.
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[B]Date and Time (Original):[/B] 2006:02:07 04:49:57 [B]Date and Time (Digitized):[/B] 2006:02:07 04:49:57
Fail.
The excuse being used is "the camera's clocks were not set".[/QUOTE]
except that this appears to be in daylight and obviously not 4 am, all you guys are retarded no one sets the clocks on cameras, all you guys just hate Israel it's weird
[QUOTE=lazyguy;22350505][url]http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/a0cd548/[/url]
[url]http://errorlevelanalysis.com/permalink/febe7cd/[/url][/QUOTE]
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
[QUOTE=TH89;22351622]What am I supposed to be seeing here?[/QUOTE]
The lighter bits mean photoshop.
israel :downs::downsbravo:
Never set clocks on any camera i've ever owned and can't say I'd expect the IDF to take a lot of time for it either. Dumb mistake, but it's just people looking for things to be honest.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;22352224]The lighter bits mean photoshop.[/QUOTE]
[quote]It is worth noting that edges and areas red in colour are often depicted as brighter in the ELA tests. This due to the way the photos are saved by various programs. It is not proof that image was manipulated.
[b]If you are unsure how to interpret the results, please do not claim the results of this tool as proof of anything[/b].[/quote]
Maybe the camera just had the date set wrong?
Maybe they used photoshop to blur sensitive information?
So it's pretty definitive that the camera's date was just set wrong? Yes or no?
You guys are hilarious. Trying to You guys are hilarious. Trying to ridicule the fact that the soldiers were in a life-risking situation by your horrible, horrible, sense of humor just doesn't work.
1. The soldiers were mobbed and lynched. They, therefore, felt as they were in a life-risking situation.
2. They decided, in response, to take action and shoot their attackers.
3. 8 died.
End of discussion.
1. They shouldn't have been boarding a ship in International Waters then.
2. They decided wrongly. They should have decided to pull out.
3. 8 deaths that could have been avoided.
End of discussion.
How could they have pulled out when they were surrounded by the mob?
[QUOTE=Taggart;22354000]1. They shouldn't have been boarding a ship in International Waters then.
2. They decided wrongly. They should have decided to pull out.
3. 8 deaths that could have been avoided.
End of discussion.[/QUOTE]
Have you watched the video? I'm pretty interested in how you think they would have 'pulled out'.
[QUOTE]1. They shouldn't have been boarding a ship in International Waters then.[/QUOTE]
In this particular case - Israel was in the right, or at least arguably so from the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, 12 June 1994:
[QUOTE]SECTION IV : AREAS OF NAVAL WARFARE
10. Subject to other applicable rules of the law of armed conflict at sea contained in this document or elsewhere, hostile actions by naval forces may be conducted in, on or over:
(a) the territorial sea and internal waters, the land territories, the exclusive economic zone and continental shelf and, where applicable, the archipelagic waters, of belligerent States;
(b) the high seas; and
(c) subject to paragraphs 34 and 35, the exclusive economic zone and the continental shelf of neutral States.
11. The parties to the conflict are encouraged to agree that no hostile actions will be conducted in marine areas containing:
(a) rare or fragile ecosystems; or
(b) the habitat of depleted, threatened or endangered species or other forms of marine life.
12. In carrying out operations in areas where neutral States enjoy sovereign rights, jurisdiction, or other rights under general international law, belligerents shall have due regard for the legitimate rights and duties of those neutral States.[/QUOTE]
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[FONT=Arial][B]SECTION V :[/B] NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Neutral merchant vessels[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:[/FONT]
[B][FONT=Arial](a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;[/FONT][/B]
[B][QUOTE][/B](b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;
[FONT=Arial](c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety. Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.[/FONT] [B][/QUOTE]
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2. They decided wrongly. They should have decided to pull out.
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They didn't have anywhere to manuever to (spelling? :( ). Watch the video. It was either their death (according to their intense feelings and thoughts on the ship at that moment) or their attackers' lifes. The paintball guns they were equipped with didn't do the job - they attackers didn't retreat and kept lynching them using weapons that are no-doubt leathle. Therefore they decided to use their pistol.
I bet that there is a decent chance that a person who did not participate in the mobbing died and/or was wounded, due to the fact there were many people over there and the soldiers weren't in a very clear set of mind to decide who is an attacker and who isn't due to the circumstances.
[QUOTE]3. 8 deaths that could have been avoided.[/QUOTE]
That's unkown.
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This is silly I didnt even know cameras had clocks
aw god... these copy-pastes always fail for me...
[QUOTE=TH89;22353069](ELA website disclaimer)[/QUOTE]
I'm not unsure.
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22354052]How could they have pulled out when they were surrounded by the mob?[/QUOTE]
Possibly by getting a helicopter with a megaphone to inform the mob that they're pulling out, and then retrieving the group?
Come on, it's not that hard.
Of course they could also just get guys to peppergun the fuck out of them from a helicopter too so that they have time to retreat.
It was a deadly situation, I don't imagine there's time to use a megaphone and wait for the people to respond. Also I imagine there wasn't enough people on the helicopter to peppergun all the mob.
Hey that photo I took yesterday on my digital camera says I took the photo in 2006. Well can't argue with that, I guess I really did take that photo yesterday in 2006.
[QUOTE=Taggart;22354418]Possibly by getting a helicopter with a megaphone to inform the mob that they're pulling out, and then retrieving the group?
Come on, it's not that hard.
Of course they could also just get guys to peppergun the fuck out of them from a helicopter too so that they have time to retreat.[/QUOTE]
you're a retarded anime fag talking politics about stuff you have no idea about
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Anyone who sees this as legitimate evidence is fucking retarded.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;22354362]I'm not unsure.[/QUOTE]
Wait so this thing implies that the entire knife and the logos on the body armor were photoshopped?
I must be a natural at this sort of technique because I often go all day without climbing off a helicopter and shooting people, and I'm not even making every possible effort. Commentators worldwide repeat a version of this line. They're aware a nation has sent its militia to confront people carrying provisions for the desperate, in the process shooting several of them dead, and yet they angrily blame the dead ones. One typical headline yesterday read Activists got what they wanted: confrontation. It's an attitude so deranged it deserves to be registered as a psychosis, something like Reverse Slaughter Victim Confusion Syndrome.
It's a shame they weren't more imaginative, as they could have said "We also discovered a deadly barometer, a ship's compass, which could not only be frisbeed at someone's head but even had markings to help the assailant know which direction he was throwing it, and a set of binoculars that could easily be converted into a ray-gun."
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