Boris Johnson is Tories' favourite to succeed David Cameron as leader - Polidicks

and we'd actually even be a lot worse off without thatcher

[QUOTE=Charybdis;37066818]She was the devil incarnate[/QUOTE] She was also voted out 22 years ago. Surely it's time to move on.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;37066886]and we'd actually even be a lot worse off without thatcher[/QUOTE] And you came to this conclusion how

[QUOTE=James*;37066978]And you came to this conclusion how[/QUOTE] Do you know what the alternative was?

[QUOTE=James*;37066978]And you came to this conclusion how[/QUOTE] I can't be bothered to actually answer this because it's a huge answer, but go and read

[QUOTE=st0rmforce;37067087]Do you know what the alternative was?[/QUOTE] No I don't which is why I am asking him how he is so sure [editline]3rd August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Cypher_09;37067114]I can't be bothered to actually answer this because it's a huge answer, but go and read[/QUOTE] "I don't know"

Quick answer: Without her we would have gone totally bankrupt, she made the difficult choices which needed to be made otherwise we would have basically just have had a collapsed economy. Obviously I can see why so many people hate her, but from an unbiased mind, she did this country a world of good. She explains the rich/poor gap using a very good analogy here: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&list=FLHk7IdUwNEvPvtataUM8LJg&index=18&feature=plpp_video[/media]

[QUOTE=James*;37066978]And you came to this conclusion how[/QUOTE] Haven't you read the Official Chronicle of Margaret Thatcher: Slew the warlords of the miners legion thereby stopping a communist rebel insurrection in the second harrying of the north Privatised many publicly owned services into monopolies and sold many useless government assets as instructed by the angels of deregulation and free market in a divine vision Personally took up arms during the invasion of the Falklands by the Argentine Dominion single-handedly sinking their entire naval and wounding their high chief Just to name a few things to prove that she was infact a demi god and the salvation of the country on the verge of descending into communist autocracy.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;37067209]we would have basically just have had a collapsed economy[/QUOTE] You mean like we do now

[QUOTE=James*;37067325]You mean like we do now[/QUOTE] THIS is why I rarely want to give a full answer on these boards. Because when I vaguely attempt to do it there's always an idiot who just retorts with what they think is a witty one-liner, when it's almost always as factually incorrect as possible (What you just said being a prime example). Mass Debate is the only place here suitable for this kind of discussion.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;37067378]THIS is why I rarely want to give a full answer on these boards. Because when I vaguely attempt to do it there's always an idiot who just retorts with what they think is a witty one-liner, when it's almost always as factually incorrect as possible (What you just said being a prime example). Mass Debate is the only place here suitable for this kind of discussion.[/QUOTE] Haha Yeah mass debate certainly is an intellectual hub [editline]3rd August 2012[/editline] To be fair I'd have put more effort into a reply if you didn't come out with some unsubstantiated opinions and a youtube video

The main reason I stay out of political discussions is that I get bored of hearing the same shit over and over. There seems to be loads of things that "everybody knows..." which are mostly recycled bullshit. On the subject of Thatcher, I've been told something like: "She was voted in, broke everything, then was quickly kicked out by her own party." (apparently 21 years is "quickly", so I see why nothing that she broke has been fixed yet) People grab a few facts, wrap them in opinions and emotions, then spew them over people. I tend to just stay out of the whole thing and moan cynically to myself. I hope Boris does go for leader of the Conservatives, I'm dying for something interesting to happen.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;37067209]Quick answer: Without her we would have gone totally bankrupt, she made the difficult choices which needed to be made otherwise we would have basically just have had a collapsed economy. Obviously I can see why so many people hate her, but from an unbiased mind, she did this country a world of good. She explains the rich/poor gap using a very good analogy here: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&list=FLHk7IdUwNEvPvtataUM8LJg&index=18&feature=plpp_video[/media][/QUOTE] It was more a derogatory generalization of Labour policy as a caricature of Socialist policy, both of which were incorrect and complete nonsense.