World of Warcraft lost another 300,000 Subscribers last quarter, Patch 4.3 this year
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[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;31555060]finally people are realizing that it's actually a shit game[/QUOTE]It's lasted like 8 years, a single game holding the top of the genre for so long is nothing to scoff at, but it has to die at some point.
I really hate MMO subscriptions. A few years ago when I played WoW, I felt obliged to play the game simply because I was paying for it. It lost all its charm after the first month, and it felt more like a chore than a game.
[QUOTE=zach34;31543121]So true, everyone who quits always has to say something like:
[i]"I finally got my priorities straight and stopped playing that drug of a game"[/i]
Even though there's really nothing wrong with it. Most people who play really aren't that addicted to it.
In fact, most of the people who play it could probably be compared to Facepunch, they get on once a day, check everything, do a few things, then log off.[/QUOTE]
If I hadn't joined a guild and started raiding I probably would have quit.
I don't raid because it's addicting, but I like the people I play with and it's fun to hang out with them a couple of times a week.
If I just sat around and chain ran dungeons with random trolls and baddies then I wouldn't be playing anymore.
If you play with friends it's just like playing TF2 with your friends.
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;31555060]finally people are realizing that it's actually a shit game[/QUOTE]It's actually a pretty good game story wise and content wise.
[editline]5th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;31556467]If I hadn't joined a guild and started raiding I probably would have quit.
I don't raid because it's addicting, but I like the people I play with and it's fun to hang out with them a couple of times a week.
If I just sat around and chain ran dungeons with random trolls and baddies then I wouldn't be playing anymore.
If you play with friends it's just like playing TF2 with your friends.[/QUOTE]I had a good time on WoW and I never had a guild. And I always play with strangers on TF2 :P
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;31555240]It's lasted like 8 years, a single game holding the top of the genre for so long is nothing to scoff at, but it has to die at some point.[/QUOTE]
Look at Diablo and Diablo 2. Over 10 years strong and still people play it because it's a good game.
As long as Blizzard keeps up the server, I think it will even outlast Diablo 3 from the speculations people have been throwing out.
[QUOTE=Meatpuppet;31556468]
I had a good time on WoW and I never had a guild. And I always play with strangers on TF2 :P[/QUOTE]
Some people like going solo on WoW, but I don't think I'd be one of them. If you're doing dungeons your success is dependent on the people in your group. And after you run the same dungeons for a while it gets frustrating to get a group of bad players and you die all the time.
Shooter games are usually more fun to play solo, but again if you're playing with strangers who aren't very good it's not fun to be on the losing team and get destroyed. I think it would be more to play with friends and be able to talk to each other and hang out while you're playing.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;31548258]Right because their success doesn't at all mirror every single other Activision IP that have died slow painful deaths, and aren't showing either their peaks or declining already?[/QUOTE]
Call of Duty: Black Ops had the largest entertainment launch ever and every time it releases a new DLC, its the top seller on Steam, XBL, and PSN.
World of Warcraft goes through flucuations of number counts. Granted the recent drops have been pretty big but we don't really have context for those numbers.
I am sorry but your fantasy of Activision going under isn't going to happen for quite awhile.
[editline]5th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;31555060]finally people are realizing that it's actually a shit game[/QUOTE]
Opinions.
[editline]5th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=balv7;31544744]
Those who are unaware of the massive change in design that blizzard made see this: [URL]http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2053469[/URL]
a couple of months after they posted that they reduced the difficulty of dungeons and raids massively (heroic raids stayed the same, leaving a large difficulty gap for a lot of players).[/QUOTE]
Heroic dungeons have only been bugfixed and tuned, they are easier than they were because people have the next tier of raiding gear, not because Blizzard nerfed aspects of them. The launch raids were nerfed by, at most, 20% in regards to health or damage dealt to create a stepping stone for new guilds and fresh 85's. If you want to down normal mode bosses, hey, look, Firelands.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;31557843]
Heroic dungeons have only been bugfixed and tuned, they are easier than they were because people have the next tier of raiding gear, not because Blizzard nerfed aspects of them. The launch raids were nerfed by, at most, 20% in regards to health or damage dealt to create a stepping stone for new guilds and fresh 85's. If you want to down normal mode bosses, hey, look, Firelands.[/QUOTE]
When Cataclysm came out there were tons of people who were crying about how hard dungeons were after how easy sauce the Wrath dungeons were. They were like "What?!? You expect me to not stand in the fire? What the fuck Blizz!" And you're right, a lot of the difficulty came from the fact that everyone was just starting to hit level 85 and didn't already outgear the instances. At the end of the WotLK expansion doing a heroic dungeon meant just blowing through the dungeon in 10 minutes and hitting everything until it fell over and died and get your free loot.
I don't even understand the people whining about the old raids being nerfed when Firelands came out. That TotalBiscuit guy gave these whiners too much credibility because he quit the game over that too.
Like seriously? A new raid comes out and you still want to deny less skilled players of playing the content that you played months ago? Really Mr TotalBiscuit? Are you going to get your full tier 12 gear and go back and do Bastion of Twilight and still expect it to be challenging? Making the old raids that the dedicated/hardcore raiders are done playing with more accessible to the casual/social players gives those people something to do other than 5 mans, and it's a stepping stone to the current raids.
I remember watching a video where a guy talked about how hard it was to recruit people to raid groups at the end of TBC because all the old players were leaving the game, and to get a new person to raid with you, you had to run them through the old raids so they had the gear to do the new one. What Blizzard is doing is letting newer players gear themselves up so we won't have the problem of not having enough people available to do raids.
Yay, more people to start playing FFXIV! [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-buddy.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Atlascore;31558375]FFXIV?
Bahahahahahahaha... that was a joke right?[/QUOTE]
Nope
[QUOTE=RichyZ;31562064]ff13 was a piece of rat shit and so are any of the games after 7 including the broken shitty mmos that delayed deus ex 3's development[/QUOTE]
See here's the thing, Deus Ex 3 is being developed by a [b]completely[/b] different dev team from FF14, therefore it being "delayed" in any way due to FF14 being worked on alongside is impossible. Plus, while I agree it was terrible at launch (terrible enough to cause the head of development to make a public apology and make the game ftp until they decide it would be cost effective to start charging us, and result in a dev team reshuffle) it is many many times better now so yeah.
ulduar was the shit
[QUOTE=Generic.Monk;31555060]finally people are realizing that it's actually a shit game[/QUOTE]
It's not a shit game, the developers are just making some bad decisions
Needs more 40 man raids
Classic was best, Burning Crusade was good, Lich King was playable, Cataclysm is retarded.
i still play and enjoy wow but 4.2 patch was awful and i can see why people left wow
Meh, I only play for the roleplay.
[QUOTE=Confuzzed Otto;31566661]Meh, I only play for the roleplay.[/QUOTE]
The roleplay in the Deeprun tram is amazing, you should check it out
[QUOTE=MrParalegal;31569902]The roleplay in the Deeprun tram is amazing, you should check it out[/QUOTE]
With that I ment on private servers, it costs like 100 dollars to buy the whole game (All expansions plus an account), and I have lost my account info long ago :(
As someone who quit over half a year ago, I feel like a hipster.
WotLK was fun because it was accessible, although Blizzard went far too overboard with the extreme AoE fests that were heroics. ICC was fun. I know that all of the hardcores cry that WotLK was too casual, but BC started to plummet towards the end because it was far too difficult to gear up if you missed the gravy train. Cataclysm, however, takes all of the bad parts of the previous expansions and smashes them together and hopes that it works, like incredibly linear and streamlined quests that meld together and discourage exploration (making leveling feel even more pointless and just a stepping stone into end-game).
Played the free trial with some friends for a few hours (and a generous few hours at that). What an arduous game, it was extremely boring, there was virtually nothing to tempt me to keep playing.
[QUOTE=yuki;31571748]Played the free trial with some friends for a few hours (and a generous few hours at that). What an arduous game, it was extremely boring, there was virtually nothing to tempt me to keep playing.[/QUOTE]
It gets more fun at higher levels, especially if you do battlegrounds while leveling.
Battlegrounds and arena at max level are a test in frustration, because, in order to obtain high level gear, you must fight people who already have said high level gear.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;31571362][url]http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/12/deus-ex-delayed/[/url]
except the thing is, the shittyness of the game spread to the other financial needs of the company and delayed the better game.[/QUOTE]
[b]Partially[/b] blamed, FFXIV was not solely responsible for the net profit drop.
It may have lost "300,000" subscribers, but what are the chances many of those have now moved to the free up to level 20 accounts? I'v surprised I haven't seen more twinks about.
Besides I've given up my subscription in exchange for buying gametime cards instead.
I was one of those people, I quit because the game became piss easy and there was no more challenge to it at all in cataclysm, and they fucked over the combat system, so trying to kill even a single mob took at least 30 seconds of setup.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;31557843]Call of Duty: Black Ops had the largest entertainment launch ever and every time it releases a new DLC, its the top seller on Steam, XBL, and PSN.
World of Warcraft goes through flucuations of number counts. Granted the recent drops have been pretty big but we don't really have context for those numbers.[/QUOTE]Ok and back when THPS and GH were top sellers it was the same story with them.
[editline]6th August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=KigJow;31556516]
As long as Blizzard keeps up the server, I think it will even outlast Diablo 3 from the speculations people have been throwing out.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt that, and Diablo 2 is long past its peak as far as active players go.
[QUOTE=HatredViral;31574993]It may have lost "300,000" subscribers, but what are the chances many of those have now moved to the free up to level 20 accounts? I'v surprised I haven't seen more twinks about.
Besides I've given up my subscription in exchange for buying gametime cards instead.[/QUOTE]
A lot, actually. Leveling my warrior and shaman up through dungeons I have seen a lot of people talking about being on the trial account.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;31577015]so trying to kill even a single mob took at least 30 seconds of setup.[/QUOTE]i suppose you never played vanilla where dungeons were actually hard and if you tried to run with strangers it would be a failure?
Hopefully Guild Wars 2 will put the final nail in the coffin of this game.
[QUOTE=NorthernFall;31584788]Hopefully Guild Wars 2 will put the final nail in the coffin of this game.[/QUOTE]
Why? People play and enjoy it, so why do you want it to die?
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