HL3 CONFIRMED? Valve accidently releases hl3.txt with DOTA 2 patch

[Hollywood SN]

[QUOTE=Passing;48870647]Is that a statement or a question?

game design has changed since then and most games now aren't really what you would call fun. There are expections people trying to revive old ideas and as a result creating good games that are fun but still most aren't.[/QUOTE]

You're acting like Valve would just pump out a generic shooter because everyone else is.

Valve of all people.

[Bastet]

[QUOTE]2:09 AM - ice: ye
2:09 AM - ice: there were a couple other files in it as well
2:13 AM - Solece: Oh yeah? Link em I guess
2:13 AM - Solece: Any that are important atleast
2:13 AM - ice: [url]https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking/blob/0dd82bbf7db9c0bde3f045e337544eeeb7038595/373301/game/core/tools/help/fgd/rpg.txt[/url]
2:13 AM - Solece: You did that one
2:13 AM - ice: [url]https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking/blob/0dd82bbf7db9c0bde3f045e337544eeeb7038595/373301/game/core/tools/help/fgd/ai_basenpc.txt[/url]
2:13 AM - Solece: I think
2:13 AM - ice: no
2:13 AM - ice: oh i did
2:13 AM - ice: [url]https://github.com/SteamDatabase/GameTracking/blob/0dd82bbf7db9c0bde3f045e337544eeeb7038595/373301/game/core/tools/help/fgd/hl3.txt[/url]
2:13 AM - ice: this was the original hl3.txt
2:16 AM - Solece: CHelpEntry
{
string m_Id = "Element.npc_quest_citizen"
string m_FriendlyName = "npc_quest_citizen"
string m_TooltipOverride = ""
string m_HelpText = "Quest Citizen"
},
CHelpEntry
{
string m_Id = "Attribute.npc_quest_citizen.vscripts"
string m_FriendlyName = "Entity Scripts"
string m_TooltipOverride = ""
string m_HelpText = "Name(s) of script files that are executed after all entities have spawned."
},
CHelpEntry
{
string m_Id = "Attribute.npc_quest_citizen.targetname"
string m_FriendlyName = "Name"
string m_TooltipOverride = ""
string m_HelpText = "The name that other entities refer to this entity by."
},
2:16 AM - Solece: This is without a doubt HL3 related
2:16 AM - ice: oh?
2:16 AM - Solece: But I'm still not getting super hyped yet
2:16 AM - Solece: Because valve has been releasing HL3 related files for literally YEARS now
2:16 AM - ice: what do you mean
2:16 AM - Solece: It doesn't necessarily mean anything other than that they're working on it
2:16 AM - Solece: Which they have been for literally over a decade
2:17 AM - Solece: Doesn't mean that they
2:17 AM - Solece: They'll finish it*
2:17 AM - Solece: Though I imagine they will
2:17 AM - ice: why would they do this on the anniversary of ep2
2:17 AM - Solece: But don't get hyped like they're gonna release it this year
2:17 AM - ice: >_>
2:17 AM - Solece: Wait, is it?
2:17 AM - Solece: Like today?
2:17 AM - ice: oct 2
2:17 AM - ice: 10*
2:17 AM - ice: yes
2:17 AM - Solece: Oh huh
2:17 AM - Solece: Well thats a little bit more important
2:17 AM - Solece: Did you see that last snippet I sent?
2:18 AM - ice: yes
2:18 AM - ice: looks like uh
2:18 AM - ice: quests for open world
2:18 AM - Solece: Actually yeah reading over all of this
2:19 AM - Solece: There's a lot of stuff that looks like it involves a possibly dynamic world map
2:19 AM - ice: oh?
2:19 AM - Solece: Like one that loads itself in the area that you're in and unloads when you go away from it
2:19 AM - ice: cpp;
2:19 AM - ice: cool
2:20 AM - Solece: CHelpEntry
{
string m_Id = "Attribute.npc_quest_citizen.ResponseContext"
string m_FriendlyName = "Response Contexts"
string m_TooltipOverride = ""
string m_HelpText = "Response system context(s) for this entity. Format should be: \'key:value,key2:value2,etc\'. When this entity speaks, the list of keys & values will be passed to the response rules system."
},
2:20 AM - Solece: What the fuck is valve planning
2:20 AM - Solece: This is like, actually a fucking quest system
2:20 AM - Solece: Involving.. citizens...
2:20 AM - ice: there was a leak a while ago saying hl3 wassss
2:20 AM - ice: open world
2:20 AM - Solece: It very well may be.
2:20 AM - Solece: HOly shit what if
2:20 AM - Solece: HL3 is fucking HLRP
2:20 AM - Solece: And you play as a rebel
2:20 AM - ice: not as a rebel
2:20 AM - Solece: And you do quests for other rebels and citizens
2:20 AM - ice: they cant ditch groudon freeman
2:20 AM - Solece: IT MAKES SENSE LORI
2:21 AM - Solece: MAKYBE GORDON PLAYS A REBEL
2:21 AM - Solece: AKA HIMSELF
2:21 AM - ice: :o
2:21 AM - Solece: woah woah woha
2:21 AM - Solece: CHelpEntry
{
string m_Id = "Attribute.npc_quest_citizen.squadname"
string m_FriendlyName = "Squad Name"
string m_TooltipOverride = ""
string m_HelpText = "NPCs that are in the same squad (i.e. have matching squad names) will share information about enemies, and will take turns attacking and covering each other."
},
2:21 AM - ice: awesome
2:21 AM - ice: i want to know
2:21 AM - ice: when its coming
2:21 AM - ice: im dumping these logs to the thread so people can know shit too
[/QUOTE]

Bit of logs from showing my coderfriend it. This is the things he says

[BFG9000]

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48867981]I think they have been saving HL3 for one or two reason next gen ( which is now ) or when Steam Machine comes,.[/QUOTE]

Uh oh, what if they make Half Life 3 Steam Machine's "Killer App" and delay the Mac/PC release by a couple months?!?!?!?!?!

[Glitchvid]

[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;48870170]The whole file is really interesting. It's not just a day-night cycle, it's a full simulation of a year. They have timezones, latitude & longitude modifiers, lunar phases, Sidereal and Synodic months. I think there might actually be some credit to HL3 being an open-world game - at least if not HL3 then another project, because there's a lot of effort in this.[/QUOTE]

They probably figured if they're going to program a good day/night system, may as well throw in the other stuff too, they might use it again.

I have a feeling some of the oddly RPG/Openworld sounding stuff is from Stars of Blood.

[Passing]

[QUOTE=AaronM202;48870655]You're acting like Valve would just pump out a generic shooter because everyone else is.

Valve of all people.[/QUOTE]

Given that nothing new has come out in a long time, only time will tell.

[EcksDee]

[QUOTE=Solomon;48870666]Bit of logs from showing my coderfriend it. This is the things he says[/QUOTE]

Asked friend of mine who said that last bit is most likely from HL2. All NPCs have a squad field assigned to them. The quest_citizen bit might just be a pun, meaning "the citizen that initiates the next bit of the story".

Only thing that was really new was the vortex turret, apaprently.

[Mitchell]

Imagine Half Life 3 with dota 2 alike gameplay and controls :v:

[Dalto11]

[QUOTE=Mitchel.;48871186]Imagine Half Life 3 with dota 2 alike gameplay and controls :v:[/QUOTE]

Please god no, that's literally my worst (gaming) nightmare.

[Headhumpy]

If it ends up being an open world game filled with microtransactions, I will personally travel to Bellevue to burn down Valve's offices.

[SupaBastad]

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48871224]If it ends up being an open world game filled with microtransactions, I will personally travel to Bellevue to burn down Valve's offices.[/QUOTE]

Probably not the smartest idea making threats like that.

[OfficerLamarr]

[t]http://i.imgur.com/Hzj8s2G.jpg[/t]

Pre-order Half Life 3 now to get your exclusive unusual gibus!

[knimren]

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;48867561]probably just coincidence or the staff trolling

again[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I also happen to accidentally write thousands of lines of code and then put them into another game. Whoops.

[lektro]

the guys at valve who didn't remove that file from the update are probably having a good laugh right now.

[Map in a box]

[QUOTE=Headhumpy;48871224]If it ends up being an open world game filled with microtransactions, I will personally travel to Bellevue to burn down Valve's offices.[/QUOTE]

great you delayed hl3

[Metaru]

happy ep2 anniversary guys.

[Bradyns]

[QUOTE=Metaru;48871518]happy ep2 anniversary guys.[/QUOTE]

Holy crap... 8 years ago?!

[Ajaxial]

Dunno if this has been posted before. But I found the description for this rather amusing.

[url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-366-AS[/url]

Do they know something we don't? :v:

[Jelman]

[QUOTE=Jamie1992GSC;48871527]Dunno if this has been posted before. But I found the description for this rather amusing.

[url]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-366-AS[/url]

Do they know something we don't? :v:[/QUOTE]

Its a running joke that been around for years

[url]http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18621896[/url]

[Saturn V]

it's crazy to think that HL2 came out 6 years after HL1

Now we're at 8 years after EP2

[Ajaxial]

[QUOTE=Jelman;48871537]Its a running joke that been around for years

[url]http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18621896[/url][/QUOTE]

Ah got ya. I apologise then.

Thank you for clarifying. :v:

[DeEz]

Well, Source 2 probably started out as a base for HL3. Now that Dota 2 is being upgraded with Source 2 and we haven't seen anything of HL3, it should just further confirm that the project is still in limbo.

[Dick Slamfist]

If you ever want to think about something off just remember we live in the reality where duke nukem forever got released but half life 3 is still a pipe dream

[SentientToilet]

[QUOTE=DeEz;48871576]Well, Source 2 probably started out as a base for HL3. Now that Dota 2 is being upgraded with Source 2 and we haven't seen anything of HL3, it should just further confirm that the project is still in limbo.[/QUOTE]

Uh no? Source 1 was [B]really[/B] outdated and brought a lot of limitations to Dota 2 (mostly implementing custom games, a feature the community really always wanted). The reason it's the first title to adopt it is because it has the biggest fanbase. The next game to see the transition is CSGO.

[burnout6010]

Nuh uh, not jumping on the hype train quite yet.

[pr00ch]

even if it's hl3 it'll get the DNF effect

[Glitchvid]

[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;48871619]Uh no? Source 1 was [B]really[/B] outdated and brought a lot of limitations to Dota 2 (mostly implementing custom games, a feature the community really always wanted). The reason it's the first title to adopt it is because it has the biggest fanbase. The next game to see the transition is CSGO.[/QUOTE]
CS:GO will [I]probably[/I] be ported at some point, but I think we'll see another Valve title before that, moving CS:GO will be difficult because all of the custom maps, and I don't think the community will want to transition back to mostly stock maps.

[QUOTE=proch;48871880]even if it's hl3 it'll get the DNF effect[/QUOTE]

Being thrown from studio to studio eventually being published solely to cash in on hype??

[JennyC6]

[QUOTE=Sokrates;48867577]Yeah, what a fun joke. I mean, who would actually take their time to write [B]3556 lines of code, non of which are repeats.
[/B]Also, did you actually open the file? It's filled with references to the combine, NPC companions, quests/missions and invisible hunters.[/QUOTE]

You'd think a file like that would be a .dll or .cfg, though, that data of this type wouldn't be in a simple .txt file.

[Silentfood]

[QUOTE=glitchvid;48871907]CS:GO will [I]probably[/I] be ported at some point, but I think we'll see another Valve title before that, moving CS:GO will be difficult because all of the custom maps, and I don't think the community will want to transition back to mostly stock maps.

Being thrown from studio to studio eventually being published solely to cash in on hype??[/QUOTE]

It's not that they'd have to move the maps, it's that the competitive scene would be trashed as all mechanics and gameplay would have to readjusted and relearned by players. I highly doubt they'd transition the engine but probably upgrade the engine CS:GO uses graphically.

[DrVrej]

Want to believe

[Trixil]

[QUOTE=proch;48871880]even if it's hl3 it'll get the DNF effect[/QUOTE]

probably not. valve has a reputation for making good games. according to metacritic (take it as you will), not including ricochet and half life dlc all their games have never fallen below a score of 80. valve knows how much hype is behind hl3, so they will polish it (like i said before) until their hands are sore. if they fuck it up the community will take a huge shit on valve's reputation. if valve feels a bit rusty at making games, they might make a new game that is not half life 3 to try to learn what they forgot.