Philippine rebels might behead two German hostages, if Germany doesn't stay out US-led fight against - Polidicks

of course they're not going to give them what they want when that soldier guy was kidnapped, the us government threatened to charge his parents with treason if they sent the kidnappers money. it doesn't do anything and it just funds them

Aww... Fuck this planet right now seriously, i'm out.

[QUOTE=Mythofpeas;46086328]I've read it too many times, I was raised Muslim from birth. Facepunch is actually banned in my country for being un-Islamic. I bet I know the Qur'an better than you ever will. Stop changing the subject and answer the question, what is the context?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://norasensation.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/"]Context[/URL] Bullfucking horse shit Shreddinger, you don't live in Pakistan, you live in Germany according to flag dog on your original account.

[QUOTE=Fayez;46086358][URL="http://norasensation.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/"]Context[/URL] Bullfucking horse shit Shreddinger, you don't live in Pakistan, you live in Germany according to flag dog on your original account.[/QUOTE] Here is how facepunch looks from Pakistan [IMG]http://puu.sh/bPpmO/79e2d4acf6.png[/IMG] That is not context, that is more backpedaling

[QUOTE=Fayez;46086358][URL="http://norasensation.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/"]Context[/URL] Bullfucking horse shit Shreddinger, you don't live in Pakistan, you live in Germany according to flag dog on your original account.[/QUOTE] I'm inclined to think some misquoted and out of context references to the Quran are not the main reason most people hate Islam.

[QUOTE=Mythofpeas;46086374]Here is how facepunch looks from Pakistan [IMG]http://puu.sh/bPpmO/79e2d4acf6.png[/IMG] That is not context, that is more backpedaling[/QUOTE] If FP is blocked in Pakistan then explain your flagdog. Holy shit it's like arguing with a child, please Shreddinger, explain to me how it's backpedaling.

[QUOTE=Mythofpeas;46086374]Here is how facepunch looks from Pakistan [IMG]http://puu.sh/bPpmO/79e2d4acf6.png[/IMG] That is not context, that is more backpedaling[/QUOTE] Why is it in english? Nevermind, turns out English is a shared official Language with pakistan. I thought it was all Urdu.

[QUOTE=Fayez;46086211]Context is key.[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the almighty and elusive "context." Where it suddenly become ok to behead your enemies and rape female captives under certain situations.

[QUOTE=Kumari24;46085678]what the fuck philippines?[/QUOTE] rebel group =/= whole country. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnFisher89;46085697]I thought Islam was the religion of peace?[/QUOTE] Yep, there totally are not any militant Christians, Jews, Hindus, or Buddhists. Oh wait there are. Stop generalizing a whole group of people based on a minority of shitbags. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Explosions;46085849]That's simply not true. Have you read the Quran? If not, where are you coming up with this? Seriously, if you haven't read the Quran, how can you say that Islam is a religion of peace? How can you claim to know anything about it?[/QUOTE] Based on that, Christianity is a insanely violent religion if you follow the old testament. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46086085]Islamist Rebels have a stronghold in the Philippines? What the bloody fuck?[/QUOTE] They've had problems with militants for a while.

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46086557]Yep, there totally are not any militant Christians, Jews, Hindus, or Buddhists. Oh wait there are. Stop generalizing a whole group of people based on a minority of shitbags.[/QUOTE] Of course there are militants in all those religions. How does that excuse Islam in any way? Is it ok to promulgate incredible violence just because other ideologies also do it? How is this even an argument?

[QUOTE=Kumari24;46085678]what the fuck philippines?[/QUOTE] A few Americans were taken hostage by Abu Sayyaf some time ago. One unfortunately died during a rescue operation. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dos_Palmas_kidnappings[/URL]

I don't know how Islamist rebels in the Philippines come as a surprise to anyone. Southeast Asia has more Muslims than the Middle East, and they've been pretty fervent there for a long time. For example, check out the hilariously acronymed [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Islamic_Liberation_Front]Moro Islamic Liberation Front[/url]

This whole thing is probably going to absolutely ruin the image of Muslims who are not crazy.

Have fun with GSG 9.

[QUOTE=mecaguy03;46086872]This whole thing is probably going to absolutely ruin the image of Muslims who are not crazy.[/QUOTE] It already has for a long time.

[QUOTE=Mythofpeas;46086374]Here is how facepunch looks from Pakistan [IMG]http://puu.sh/bPpmO/79e2d4acf6.png[/IMG] That is not context, that is more backpedaling[/QUOTE] I've been noticing a lot of users like this guy posting in SH that have low post counts, recent join dates, and seem to only target specific types of threads. Creeps me out.

[QUOTE=ElectricSquid;46086793]check out the hilariously acronymed [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Islamic_Liberation_Front]Moro Islamic Liberation Front[/url][/QUOTE] They lure you in with the promises of milfs, but there are no milfs... only jihad.

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;46086934]I've been noticing a lot of users like this guy posting in SH that have low post counts, recent join dates, and seem to only target specific types of threads. Creeps me out.[/QUOTE] It's called shilling. It should be bannable as it's essentially threadshitting.

I'm going to say this once. The Qu'ran is open to interpretation. Just like the Bible. Do you think every Islamic wants to kill nonbelievers? No. Do you think every Christian thinks that women shouldn't have rights. For example, ''I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent'' 1 Timothy 1:12 Do you think all Christians follow that? ofcourse not. "Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money" (Exodus 21:20-21) And 1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell. Christians don't follow those rules, eventhough they've read the Bible. Just like the Qu'ran has some verses that aren't followed by everybody, except some extremists. You think Christianity is filled with peace and doesn't have extremists? It's not like they went on big murderous crusades to kill non-believers. Oh wait

[QUOTE=Zotobom;46087251]I'm going to say this once. The Qu'ran is open to interpretation. Just like the Bible. Do you think every Islamic wants to kill nonbelievers? No. Do you think every Christian thinks that women shouldn't have rights. For example, ''I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent'' 1 Timothy 1:12 Do you think all Christians follow that? ofcourse not. "Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money" (Exodus 21:20-21) And 1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell. Christians don't follow those rules, eventhough they've read the Bible. Just like the Qu'ran has some verses that aren't followed by everybody, except some extremists. You think Christianity is filled with peace and doesn't have extremists? It's not like they went on big murderous crusades to kill non-believers. Oh wait[/QUOTE] And where are the christian terrorists?

[QUOTE=Impact1986;46087275]And where are the christian terrorists?[/QUOTE] Timothy McVeigh? WBC? (Not terrorists, but a hate group all the same) The KKK? Violent anti-abortion protestors? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism]Everything in here?[/url] There's even a section on the United States.

[QUOTE=Zotobom;46087251]I'm going to say this once. The Qu'ran is open to interpretation. Just like the Bible. Do you think every Islamic wants to kill nonbelievers? No. Do you think every Christian thinks that women shouldn't have rights. For example, ''I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent'' 1 Timothy 1:12 Do you think all Christians follow that? ofcourse not. "Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21) "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money" (Exodus 21:20-21) And 1 Timothy 2:15 says only women who have children will be spared hell. Christians don't follow those rules, eventhough they've read the Bible. Just like the Qu'ran has some verses that aren't followed by everybody, except some extremists. You think Christianity is filled with peace and doesn't have extremists? It's not like they went on big murderous crusades to kill non-believers. Oh wait[/QUOTE] Christians who don't follow these commandments are being bad Christians. Muslims who follow the Quran's commands for terrible violence aren't being bad Muslims. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;46086557]Based on that, Christianity is a insanely violent religion if you follow the old testament.[/QUOTE] It is. If I hear of a case of a Christian following the bloodstained passages in the Bible, I will call him out on it immediately. He doesn't get a pass just because it's from his holy book, and neither do the Muslims. I would not, however, make excuses and say "this Christian isn't doing this because it's in the Bible, he's doing it because of economics/lack of education/propaganda/etc." which is all you will ever hear when Muslims do those things. The majority of Christians do not properly follow the Bible. The majority of Muslims do not properly follow the Quran. These are good things. But when they [b]do[/b] follow their books to the letter, as they should be doing if they are true, then I am going to point that out and so should you.

[QUOTE=Explosions;46087361]Christians who don't follow these commandments are being bad Christians. Muslims who follow the Quran's commands for terrible violence aren't being bad Muslims. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] It is. If I hear of a case of a Christian following the bloodstained passages in the Bible, I will call him out on it immediately. He doesn't get a pass just because it's from his holy book, and neither do the Muslims. I would not, however, make excuses and say "this Christian isn't doing this because it's in the Bible, he's doing it because of economics/lack of education/propaganda/etc." which is all you will ever hear when Muslims do those things. The majority of Christians do not properly follow the Bible. The majority of Muslims do not properly follow the Quran. These are good things. But when they [b]do[/b] follow their books to the letter, as they should be doing if they are true, then I am going to point that out and so should you.[/QUOTE] wait I thought you were a Christian so my zinger would be effective. oops!

Those terrorist aren't Muslims at all. I feel like no one in the world respect Islam anymore because of these extremist. A modern Islam should be giving equal rights to women and non Muslim, preach Islam about modesty, truth, healthy living, justice and integrity and see Allah as a loving figure who is forever patient with all the bullshit humanity is doing right now, not a SPACE GOD NAZI that you humans see the divine god as right now.

[QUOTE=LiquidNazgul;46085711]I thought people established that snarky comments like these are fucking stupid?[/QUOTE] Yeah. If someone wants to know how islam is, make them read a history book.

[QUOTE=Explosions;46087361] It is. If I hear of a case of a Christian following the bloodstained passages in the Bible, I will call him out on it immediately. He doesn't get a pass just because it's from his holy book, and neither do the Muslims. I would not, however, make excuses and say "this Christian isn't doing this because it's in the Bible, he's doing it because of economics/lack of education/propaganda/etc." [B]which is all you will ever hear when Muslims do those things. [/B][/QUOTE] How can you say that when things like this are happening? [URL]http://www.news24.com/World/News/Muslims-gather-in-Paris-to-denounce-ISIS-20140927[/URL] [URL]http://www.globalresearch.ca/muslim-leaders-worldwide-condemn-isis/5397364[/URL] [URL]http://www.newsweek.com/young-british-muslims-use-notinmyname-denounce-isis-272254[/URL] [URL]http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/07/25/worlds_muslim_leaders_condemn_attacks_on_iraqi_christians/1103410[/URL] [URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2747644/The-Burn-ISIS-Flag-Challenge-Outraged-Muslims-flood-web-version-Ice-Bucket-Challenge-protest-against-Islamic-State-barbarism.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-ten-arab-nations-join-us-led-coalition-against-isis-1465106[/URL] Took me 15 seconds to get those link. Don't you understand that the sufferers of ISIS aren't white people? It's the normal Muslims that gets their religion tainted and their lives ruined. Thousands and thousands of Muslim civilians in that region have died at their hands. They are the ones that SHOULD be angry and I am sure that they are. I know you're not retarded, but such generalizations are stupid. [editline]27th September 2014[/editline] I think it's fucked up I even have to make a post like this.

[QUOTE=Explosions;46086581]Of course there are militants in all those religions. How does that excuse Islam in any way? Is it ok to promulgate incredible violence just because other ideologies also do it? How is this even an argument?[/QUOTE] You're exaggerating and saying it isn't a religion of peace, when in fact, most people that follow Islam are peaceful people. A violent minority doesn't make the religion as a whole non-peaceful, especially when IS is changing parts of the qur'an.

[QUOTE=Glue Factory;46086908]Have fun with GSG 9.[/QUOTE] More like have fun with GSG9 showing up unarmed with briefcases full of cash. Germany has paid ransom before and I'm sure they'll do it again.

[QUOTE=Zotobom;46087251] Christians don't follow those rules, eventhough they've read the Bible.[/QUOTE] Nobody in their right mind reads the Bible nowadays, unless they're terminally ill or afraid they'll die or whatever fear of the biblical deity they have. IRL religious christian activities in modern times have more or less vanished, it's barely even practiced amongst the post 90's generations. It doesn't even make the top 20 in a teenager-young adult's preocupations, whereas in the lifes of those young muslim soldiers joined in ISIS it's their prime goal to live by the book and die by the book, sacrosanto. [QUOTE]Just like the Qu'ran has some verses that aren't followed by everybody, except some extremists. You think Christianity is filled with peace and doesn't have extremists? It's not like they went on big murderous crusades to kill non-believers. Oh wai[/QUOTE] Even if it were true, It's not a justifiable way of solving issues of revenge or political change. It's why we have a functioning judiciary sistem and voting/the right to form into political groups/ to protest/ free speech etc. Christianity has no meddling in other affairs other than those of the after death burrial rituals, weddings and that's it,nobody is on a crusade to bring skulls for the skull throne. As opposed to this ranting: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8TLu514EgU[/media] Quality and state of the art education is required in these times, not mumbo-jambo ramblings about spaghetti gods. Haven't we learned anything from the fact that in the course of history, hundreds of regular folks have been considered deities, and tens of thousands of gods have been worshiped, then forgotten, then found out new ones to worship again and so on? Look if you're 100% convinced in your beliefs that's fine, live and die as a religious believer in whatever you may wish to. Just give the rest of the community have their own oppinion on it aswell, don't force shit down their throats, or threaten to kill them unless they yeld to the god you wish for them.It's beyond stupidity.

I've got a copy of the Qur'an sitting on my end table. I've been slowly reading through it, and it is interesting to read. I've read the Bible, The Book of Mormon (and Doctrine and Covenants) and I have to say that in my own experience reading it, there is a different tone than the bible when you take into account the New Testament. It's more focused on fearing the all powerful Allah, and that Allah will enact his revenge on anyone who doesn't worship him. Not a whole hell of a lot different than the Old Testament but in the bible you have the New Testament that has a tendency to say "Actually, you should love god, not fear him" and teaches more about forgiveness, than revenge and killing in the name of God that helps balance out the more radical stuff in the Old Testament. There is also quite a bit of stuff against the 'children of Israel' saying things along the lines of "We tried to help them, we sent them many messages and they did not listen to any of them, so Allah's punishment will be strict, and that true followers of Allah will do his will." Seriously, everyone should read, or at least read some of the Qur'an, it can help give perspective and understanding of their docterine. Obviously different groups follow it differently, but it's good to understand where they are coming from. In my opinion, anyone who kills or harms someone else because of a passage written by man in a holy book is just ridiculous. Christian, Mormon, Muslim, whatever. I have respect for those who take the best things from their respective doctrine, disregarding the stuff that preaches hate.