Donald Trump donates 70,000 lbs. of goods to Louisiana Flood Victims - Polidicks

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50922318]And then not long after that, he changed his views on Putin and basically shit all over him. Well at least now I know you don't follow his campaign at all. He hasn't done jack shit to prevent racial tensions or violence at his rallies, his entire platform is focused on shutting out many minorities who are first wave immigrants, and he has continued to associate himself with homophobic politicians and people. "People prefer Hillary Clinton, they must only like her because she's a woman." Or, maybe it's because your candidate is garbage.[/QUOTE] Well i'm basing this on [URL="https://youtu.be/gUVycqPoNjo"]the speech he gave[/URL], if you can cite any source on him flip flopping on russia within the last few days i'd like to hear it. Secondly, he said, word for word, "my administration will speak out against the oppression of women, gays and people of different beliefs". I would like to see an interview or speech where he goes "yeah fuck black people, also hitler had some good ideas, let's do what he did" Thirdly, i never said literally everyone, i never said that was the only reason anyone ever had to support her, but it's [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf7MR0f4XDI"]absolutely a thing[/URL]. A minority i'm sure, but those are usually the sort of people who go "wah trump is literally hitler, fuck that islamaphobic hate monger", which was my point Now there's a few bad ideas in that speech. The "Let's cut isis off from the internet" is just absurd. I don't understand how you can do that in any real, effective or non despotic/authoritarian ways. Plus the "keep the oil" thing was a bit telling. But, frankly i'd prefer an adnimistration wear that on their sleeve rather than subversively lie to the public and do some Machiavellian shit to control resources. And i don't even think controlling resources like that is an inherently evil thing to do. It can be, but that's how human societies work. But other than a few things like that, most of what he had to say i agree with.

I'm not sold on the guy, but I think the people portraying him as 100% evil badman are looking to vilify the competition a bit too much. He was in my town today, met with some of the cops my dad is friends with through work, including one who got shot and made an almost miracle-like recovery since then who Trump talked to for a while. Allegedly, they all liked the guy and what he had to say. I've met most of them, and they're all level-headed types. Pretty young bunch of guys, so it's not like it's the typical angry-boomer stereotype people have for his supporters. I can't really see Hillary doing that, well, ever. She's part of a party that at it's absolute best could be described as having cool relations with the police community. I'm fairly invested in how officials want to handle the work and well-being of first responders and the military and the like, so it's a big deal for me. That and his attitude on the 2nd amendment are some of the things swaying me towards him. But, he attitude on the environment and a good chunk of his foreign policy are keeping me from being in his camp. Only thing I'm sure of at this point is that I'm not voting for Hillary.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;50922355]I'm not sold on the guy, but I think the people portraying him as 100% evil badman are looking to vilify the competition a bit too much. He was in my town today, met with some of the cops my dad is friends with through work, including one who got shot and made an almost miracle-like recovery since then who Trump talked to for a while. Allegedly, they all liked the guy and what he had to say. I've met most of them, and they're all level-headed types. Pretty young bunch of guys, so it's not like it's the typical angry-boomer stereotype people have for his supporters. I can't really see Hillary doing that, well, ever. She's part of a party that at it's absolute best could be described as having cool relations with the police community. I'm fairly invested in how officials want to handle the work and well-being of first responders and the military and the like, so it's a big deal for me. That and his attitude on the 2nd amendment are some of the things swaying me towards him. But, he attitude on the environment and a good chunk of his foreign policy are keeping me from being in his camp. Only thing I'm sure of at this point is that I'm not voting for Hillary.[/QUOTE] why does pandering increase your support for a politician like, they're both fucking horrible, but I don't see why you'd base your opinion based on how much they pretend to care about {x group} by meeting with them

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50922318]"People prefer Hillary Clinton, they must only like her because she's a woman." Or, maybe it's because your candidate is garbage.[/QUOTE] More like Hillary's garbage and Trump's sewage. They both suck but I'd much rather have a room full of garbage than a room full of sewage. At least there's a chance of finding something good in the garbage.

IMO, they're both equally bad people. The questions are what policies that they are most likely to follow through with do you support and what do you want the supreme court to look like. Arguing about who's the better person isn't going to go anywhere. They are both scum.

[QUOTE=geel9;50922375]why does pandering increase your support for a politician like, they're both fucking horrible, but I don't see why you'd base your opinion based on how much they pretend to care about {x group} by meeting with them[/QUOTE] I don't like the fact alone that he talked to them alone, I like the fact that these guys who are very good at and very well informed about their jobs, and whom I know well enough to value their opinions, seem to think he had reasonable ideas on how to deal with the problems US LEOs are facing at the moment, certainly opposed to Hillary who thinks that they ARE the problem.

[QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255] You know, i was against trump until i listened to his foreign policy speech. I think he's talking about doing exactly what needs to be done right now. [/QUOTE] If all it took was one speech to turn you over then why were you against him in the first place? [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]And i find it absurd that today, we have both a republican candidate saying "I'm open to being friends with russia, let's put that cold war shit behind us." [/QUOTE] Most politicians aren't against being friends with Russia, it's the problematic connections his campaign has to Russia and statements like "Crimea belongs to Russia" and "NATO is outdated" that has people worried. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]"We must protect blacks, gays and other minorities" [/QUOTE] Yeah people aren't going to take you seriously when you oppose gay marriage and pick Mike Pence for VP then say you will protect the gays from Muslims. If radical Islamic attacks targeting blacks and gays were common place and the Democrats (Clinton in particular) were hunky dory with it than maybe you could have a point. Meanwhile in reality it looks like a really weak attempt at pandering. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]and "we must support muslim reformists in the middle east", [/QUOTE] American foreign policy for the last half century, with mixed results. Trump is saying nothing new here. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]and a large amount of people calling someone who made those points their official policy a right wing, white supremicist, xenophobic uber racist fascist. [/QUOTE] I don't know about right supremacist or racist. He has skirted those lines before but with plausible deniability. Definitely right wing policy positions and xenophobic rhetoric that ends up giving you a candidate who isn't necessarily a fascist, but gets mistaken for one because he is the closest thing to a fascistic candidate we have had in decades. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]And then rooting for someone who takes millions from fucking saudia arabia/UAE because that person has a vagina [/QUOTE] Because neither of these facts have anything to do with her as a president. I don't give a shit that someone in the Middle East donated to a charity she hasn't worked with in years, nor do I care about her gender. The entire "Trump is better for gay people than Clinton is because the Clinton Foundation got money from a Saudi" narrative is mindbogglingly dumb because the only country they can effectively protect LGBT rights is the United States and you have one candidate who has widely supported gay rights and another who says he believes in traditional marriage and said that he would elect a supreme court justice to overrule gay marriage. [QUOTE=Trilby Harlow;50922255]politics is fucked these days[/QUOTE] Yeah it's pretty fucked to assume Clinton's support comes purely because of her vagina.

Huh, I remember seeing thread on /r/the_donald about how he should arrive there to help as soon as possible to help people, and why it would be a win for everyone.

Surprised he can afford it, given the debt his company's in.

Good for him.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50921396]Fantastic thing to do. Not going to change my opinion on him, but kudos to doing something nice.[/QUOTE] He's only doing this to downplay his (rightful) image of a hateful bigot living in his ivory Trump(tm) tower. The fact that he's doing this only to get publicity makes me sick.

I'm surprised after his veterans debacle.

[QUOTE=RearAdmiral;50923329]Surprised he can afford it, given the debt his company's in.[/QUOTE] A lot of companies are in debt, especially large ones. High debt is only an issue if returns are low or nonexistent, to say nothing of this not even being an actual profit statement, and much of this debt could be even leverage options.

Nice of him, but like someone else said bad people do good things too. A Jewish doctor that didn't charge fees for treating Hitlers mother before she died, was quietly given a visa to get out of Germany by Adolph Hitler before the Holocaust started. What he did was a good deed, but it doesn't change the fact that he had millions of people killed for "inferior genes". This is the same kind of action that Trump did on a much more basic and less violent scale. What Trump did was a good deed, but it doesn't change the fact that wants millions of people removed from the country because they're "rapists". Or his relentless lawsuits. Now watch as someone misinterpretes my point.

Trump's had a large history of philanthropy, I'm not sure why some people are acting like this is the first time he's done a good deed before.

[QUOTE=Falstad007;50924978]He's only doing this to downplay his (rightful) image of a hateful bigot living in his ivory Trump(tm) tower. The fact that he's doing this only to get publicity makes me sick.[/QUOTE] So you'd rather him not donate...? God, you really just can't win with some people.

Ten 7,000 lb marble statues of the man himself. Enjoy! [editline]21st August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Monkah;50926001]So you'd rather him not donate...? God, you really just can't win with some people.[/QUOTE] Regardless of his motivations, it's much needed aid. I'm sure the recipients appreciate it. It doesn't change my opinion of what kind of man Donald Trump is in the slightest, however.

[QUOTE=Monkah;50926001]God, you really just can't win with some people.[/QUOTE] That statement goes both ways, buddy.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;50927284]That statement goes both ways, buddy.[/QUOTE] Not really. Republicans are the most bull-headed and obstinate people alive. People on the left are much more likely to change and adapt their position with new information.

This is the worst storm since Sandy. I heard the flood damage was up to three times that of Katrina. These people need whatever help they can get. Motives or not, it's still 70,000 pounds of supplies. They still need more. [editline]22nd August 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Falstad007;50924978]He's only doing this to downplay his (rightful) image of a hateful bigot living in his ivory Trump(tm) tower. The fact that he's doing this only to get publicity makes me sick.[/QUOTE] The fact that we consider political optics of a natural disaster that ruined thousands of lives makes me sick. Who cares? No politician really cares. Disasters are photo ops and smear opportunities to politicians. Meanwhile people are dying.

I swear Ive removed 90% of people off my facebook due to politics. I just had 3 people share and tag me for a news article about Trump not actually donating anything. That it was all a lie. I dont speak or share my views. Hell Im hardly on facebook now. But they felt the need to tag me or mention me. Cant wait for November. Jesus fucking christ.

[QUOTE=Renderman;50928755]I swear Ive removed 90% of people off my facebook due to politics. I just had 3 people share and tag me for a news article about Trump not actually donating anything. That it was all a lie. I dont speak or share my views. Hell Im hardly on facebook now. But they felt the need to tag me or mention me. Cant wait for November. Jesus fucking christ.[/QUOTE] I usually un-follow anyone with extreme right OR left views on facebook, shit is toxic. As a moderate person this election is a nightmare.

A good leader leads by example: [video=youtube;O6qYuUGK77o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qYuUGK77o[/video] EDIT: [URL="http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/our_views/article_f1ce22ee-64b4-11e6-b11a-a393ff25161d.html"]Meanwhile Barack Obama goes on vacation.[/URL]

[QUOTE=orgornot;50929453]A good leader leads by example: [video=youtube;O6qYuUGK77o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qYuUGK77o[/video][/QUOTE] A good leader never misses a photo op. Wait a second...

[QUOTE=orgornot;50929453]A good leader leads by example: [video=youtube;O6qYuUGK77o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6qYuUGK77o[/video][/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/ng9FsAg.png[/img] A good leader holds grudges and attempts to ruin peoples relationships? The same leader who divorced multiple times and married only for the looks of his wives, who he ditched as soon as they got old? The same man who literally denies the validity of major and established scientific theories?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50929579]A good leader holds grudges and attempts to ruin peoples relationships? The same leader who divorced multiple times and married only for the looks of his wives, who he ditched as soon as they got old? The same man who literally denies the validity of major and established scientific theories?[/QUOTE] Why are you discussing and criticizing Trump's personal life? That's irrelevant to the topic at hand. Catastrophic flooding has submerged thousands of homes. Donald Trump is actually on the ground, helping the people, and leading by example. Doing the things that the actual president should be doing. This is why people look up to Trump as a leader. [URL="http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/our_views/article_f1ce22ee-64b4-11e6-b11a-a393ff25161d.html"]Meanwhile Barack Obama goes on vacation.[/URL] EDIT: Edited post to be less right-wing so people stop accusing me of "gimmick" for simply not agreeing with their political views.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50929681]Why are you discussing and criticizing Trump's personal life? Catastrophic flooding has submerged thousands of homes. Donald Trump is actually on the ground, helping the people, and leading by example. Doing the things that the actual president should be doing. Meanwhile their supposed president Barack Obama goes on vacation. I'd ask why Hillary isn't helping (or at least lie and pretend she's helping, as always) but she can barely even stand up these days.[/QUOTE] Maybe you don't understand that you can approve of somebody's actions taken in context, but not approve of their other actions.

[QUOTE=orgornot;50929681]Why are you discussing and criticizing Trump's personal life? Catastrophic flooding has submerged thousands of homes. Donald Trump is actually on the ground, helping the people, and leading by example. Doing the things that the actual president should be doing. Meanwhile their supposed president Barack Obama goes on vacation. I'd ask why Hillary isn't helping (or at least lie and pretend she's helping, as always) but she can barely even stand up these days.[/QUOTE] why is trump criticizing other peoples' personal lives?

[QUOTE=orgornot;50929681]Catastrophic flooding has submerged thousands of homes. Donald Trump is actually on the ground, helping the people, and leading by example. Doing the things that the actual president should be doing.[/QUOTE] trump actively denies the existence of the phenomenon leading to these floods and the floods getting worse with him in power, more people will be displaced by flooding and climate change because he literally does not believe it exists

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;50929579]A good leader holds grudges and attempts to ruin peoples relationships? The same leader who divorced multiple times and married only for the looks of his wives, who he ditched as soon as they got old? The same man who literally denies the validity of major and established scientific theories?[/QUOTE] He also tried to [url=http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/trump-throws-fit-on-twitter-083450]incite revolution[/url] because his preferred candidate lost the election in a landslide, and has repeatedly questioned the legitimacy of the current elections, which is deeply irresponsible for a man who is projected to lose them. If people are asking why he is portrayed as a "great evil", maybe it's because they're forgetting that the man is an outright traitor, even if you ignore the Russian hacking stuff.