Legal highs: UK to opt out of new EU regulation regime - Polidicks

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43535954]Uh oh, you've thrown insults my way. I am defeated.[/QUOTE] From the sounds though, it's pretty much to the dot as you've not presented anything to say otherwise.

[QUOTE=Rolond Returns;43534343]Legal highs are fuckin' dangerous, but I know people who are willing to use them rather than generally safer illegal substances due to the law. Loopholes make the government look like mugs.[/QUOTE] Indeed they can be and that's why it would make sense to regulate them properly instead of have them sold as "plant food" etc. The generally safer illegal substances need to be brought above board too really with proper regulation instead of just pretending that only a tiny minority use psychoactive substances or want to.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43535954]Uh oh, you've thrown insults my way. I am defeated.[/QUOTE] I don't have to defeat you since you didn't put up a "fight" at all. By the way, you were the first to go "fuck off" so don't say I was the first one to "throw insults".

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43536031]I don't have to defeat you since you didn't put up a "fight" at all. By the way, you were the first to go "fuck off" so don't say I was the first one to "throw insults".[/QUOTE] I never said I was the first, I just managed to make a post that wasn't entirely made up of them. PS [quote]"NO WAY, FUCK DRUGS, FUCK YOU, I DON'T WANNA HANG OUT WITH YOU GUYS ANYMORE, I KNOW BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU" [/quote] You have a problem with assuming that anyone who doesn't like something the EU does is a raging moron, even when they're a country.

[QUOTE=H8Entitlement;43535975]Aside from annoying neighboring countries trying to impose their ideals on them- what exactly does the uk get? From everything I've read on the subject the uk could give 2 fucks about staying in the eu. Seems to me the eu wants them in more then the uk wants to stay in.... But sure, w/e- if it makes ppl feel better the eu should definitely sanction the uk. (For hilarity purposes if nothing else)[/QUOTE] For the beginners; the fact it holds 73 (9.5%, 4th most, with the highest being 12.9% held by Germany) seats in the European Parliament. That's the first thing people forget or never actually learn. UK has [B]considerable[/B] word within EU. Literally the 4th biggest word, and even then only by a small margin smaller, and considering how often it's UK who throws a tantrum and blocks or vetoes something, realistically, UK might have [I]the biggest[/I] word if you consider all the pressure it applies simply by being the most vocally unhappy member. So, write that into your brain. It's not OTHER countries dictate, UK listens, it's a group of countries, INCLUDING UK, trying to agree on things, which all of them should listen to, afterwards. Secondly, EU's regulation which might seem quite limiting overall allows for massive simplification of international treaties, getting onto the same and compatible legal and economical standard, etc etc. For instance - Schengen Area. You, as an UK citizen, have the privilege to pack up your bag, pick up a basic normal passport, sit onto a plane or a bus, and be in Paris the next morning, NO PAPERWORK REQUIRED. Before that, you would need visa which took time to approve and cost plenty of money. Generally, there's literally dozens of various civil but also other, business, education and similar systems that massively opened up the borders between countries. While each individual government might seem "bound" by the higher European one, the end result is that over all, it massively broadens one persons rights and privileges past border of their own country and within the rest of EU. The economical advantages are massive as well; opened up import and export often without customs duty and such - and people argue "well, we could have these without the rest of stuff!" but that's not really true, because opening the markets without regulating the on other levels, it could ruin a lot of things, and many countries just wouldn't ever agree with that. Generally, it's about trying to find compromises that will work for everyone and build upon the principles of unity over separatism.

And lest we forget that more than half of [I]all[/I] UK trade goes through the EU.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43536083]I never said I was the first, I just managed to make a post that wasn't entirely made up of them. [/QUOTE] Your first half of post I have entirely addressed in first half of mine. It was partially aimed at you as well, since you said the same thing without actually saying anything, really. [quote] PS You have a problem with assuming that anyone who doesn't like something the EU does is a raging moron, even when they're a country.[/quote] You have a problem with distinguishing universal assumption from overstated comical depiction which might not be entirely fair, but isn't an official public statement regarding my true attitude either. This forum is largely about entertainment and I am attempting to inlay humor, even if not-so-sensitive, into my point, to keep the form a bit more digestible. I am sorry if you took offense.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;43535954]Uh oh, you've thrown insults my way. I am defeated.[/QUOTE] is your opinion on this matter based on your opinion of the eu?? lol

[QUOTE=whatthe;43534784]Why does their industrial/scientific possibility relate to idiots killing themselves with shitty version of perfectly good drugs? People huff gasoline because it incidentally gets people high, but we don't outright criminalize it.[/QUOTE] not all illegal highs are shit, there are tons of really good psychadelics being made that don't tend to hit general stores but are available online and can can have similiar effects to lsd such as al-lad and lsz

[QUOTE=Danny Brown;43536556]not all illegal highs are shit, there are tons of really good psychadelics being made that don't tend to hit general stores but are available online and can can have similiar effects to lsd such as al-lad and lsz[/QUOTE] You can kill yourself on most drugs. I'm not stating legal status as a quality or fatality indicator, I'm really just asking the obvious question: Why do idiots have to go and ruin everyone else's fun?! I had a fair few shitty experiences on both sides of the legal boundaries of drugs, far more positive experiences (oh god especially salvia, praise salvia), but the negative ones were beyond anything I would wish on any human, no matter what. Maybe I am a tad biased because of what I have seen happen to me and many now dead kids around my area but one individual drug, an extremely concentrated synthetic cannaboid ([URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018"]JWH-018[/URL]) in large doses has severe effects on the mind. Death tolls may not be high but I'm sure psychosis rates are, if people got diagnosed.

Yea synthetic Cannabinoid's are shit and for some reason those are the only types that are getting sold in shops along with shitty amphetamine analogues