Census data says half of america is poor/low-income - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Walrus.;33741574]The politicians getting the "donations".[/QUOTE] So they were getting bribed before it was legal, then they more or less asked if they could be exmpt from being removed from office, then everybody upstairs was okay with it? Nobody even acted on the fact that they were basically saying "I TOTALLY DID NOT GET BRIBED JUST THEN. SRSLY."? How did that happen?

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] You're right. Here's how trickle down economics works:

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] So thats why people hate you. Im guessing you're....republican?

Rich people in positions of power need to realize that making everyone poor by bribing the government is bad in the long run, as no one will have money to buy their shitty products.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] I think you are actually a robot designed to be maximally offensive to Facepunch. You've protested cloud computing, prominently display a My Little Pony avatar, and are the most obnoxiously conservative person on Facepunch.

I am the 50%

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] Well to some extent the wages will drop, i can agree with that.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;33741267]Well, this is pretty interesting. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5qMDc.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] What the fuck I had no idea the problem was this severe. This is inexcusable.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;33741267]Well, this is pretty interesting. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5qMDc.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] I want a source to confirm.

[QUOTE=valkery;33742055]I want a source to confirm.[/QUOTE] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/US_poverty_rate_timeline.gif/800px-US_poverty_rate_timeline.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] [img]http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/202446/heavy-laugh.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=NoDachi;33742090][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/US_poverty_rate_timeline.gif/800px-US_poverty_rate_timeline.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Thanks, but that rate is no where near what is represented on the other chart.

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] what?

[QUOTE=MrBob1337;33741834]I think you are actually a robot designed to be maximally offensive to Facepunch. You've protested cloud computing, prominently display a My Little Pony avatar, and are the most obnoxiously conservative person on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] Isn't it obvious? It's a gimmick account only maintained these days for the purpose of trolling SH.

[QUOTE=Ermac20;33742189]what?[/QUOTE] That's just glaber trying to troll again. Oh I'm sorry, I mean "posting his opinion".

[QUOTE=fantafuzz;33741079]I really cant bend my mind around how horrible things must be in America. Its just so strange that the place i grew up believing was the best country in the world, is really a fucked up nation where the rich exploit the poor. I wish all of the poor people could come to Norway...[/QUOTE] Jeg snakker norrone. I'm trying to get my visa to stay there. as soon as i'm done with college i'm off. it's 400 dollars for a one way ticket there from where i live. I don't have much to bring either. just a couple guitars and some clothes. everything else i can carry on. [editline]16th December 2011[/editline] In honesty it's easy to blame those in power. But the people who put them there are to blame. The dying visage of a once great country. If anyone is to blame it's not the politicians themselves but us for putting them into power. We the people. We're not equal.

We're still in a depression in my opinion. I really don't see why we're deemed out of it, because unemployment is high and the other percent who are employed mostly have minimum-wage jobs. There's very few open and high-paying jobs. Actually, I believe they only deem a depression once the unemployment rate is 10%>

Lots of things have put us in this position: People have an irrational phobia about socialism. Even poor people will insist government regulation of business is wrong, even as those businesses ship the jobs away. The world used to be a closed place. If you were a corporation making and selling something in the West, you had to build it in the West, paying Western level wages(count Japan as West here). The communist world was closed off, both in to sell to and to build in. The rest of the world was not very developed industrially. Now? China alone is a huge pool of cheap labor. Plus many other countries are developing now too. What should be happening is this: Regulation. Want to build something cheap in China and sell it in the US? Go ahead, but you must pay the Chinese worker the equivalent wage to the American worker. Or pay the Chinese worker a low wage but then you have to sell it for an equivalent low price in the US. Right now workers around the world are being played against each other, in a contest to make people desperate enough to work for less and less, while the corporations are more profitable than ever.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33743778]Lots of things have put us in this position: People have an irrational phobia about socialism. Even poor people will insist government regulation of business is wrong, even as those businesses ship the jobs away. The world used to be a closed place. If you were a corporation making and selling something in the West, you had to build it in the West, paying Western level wages(count Japan as West here). The communist world was closed off, both in to sell to and to build in. The rest of the world was not very developed industrially. Now? China alone is a huge pool of cheap labor. Plus many other countries are developing now too. What should be happening is this: Regulation. Want to build something cheap in China and sell it in the US? Go ahead, but you must pay the Chinese worker the equivalent wage to the American worker. Or pay the Chinese worker a low wage but then you have to sell it for an equivalent low price in the US. Right now workers around the world are being played against each other, in a contest to make people desperate enough to work for less and less, while the corporations are more profitable than ever.[/QUOTE] One single piece of shit legislation put the states in this position: N.A.F.T.A. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnVL0d9fwkY[/media] And what the fuck are you talking about needing more regulation? Obama is about as far left as you can get without being communist, and look how he ruined the country. He's racked up a national debt [B]larger than all of the former presidents combined[/B] in [B]just 3 years[/B]. In fact, look how fucked Europe is from socialism, nothing is going to get them out of that mess. Regulatory agencies in the government are primarily staffed by ill trained or non-trained people off the street to give them jobs "to solve the jobs problem." We don't need more people that have no idea what they're doing to attempt to manage something they know zero about, that didn't need managing in the first place. The single thing that would fix the job market is repealing N.A.F.T.A. and closing the huge loophole that corporations can use to outsource to other countries, but we all know this will never happen.

[QUOTE=Painties Hose;33740342]My fam only has 16k a year to live off of. The rent alone is 900 bucks a month. Add electric, oil, cable/phone/internet, and food. Blah, zero money left for clothes. Thank goodness our clothes size doesn't fluctuate so we can wear the same clothes for 5 or more years.[/QUOTE] Although we live in Canada, my family it in the same boat. 17k to live off of, 1200 a month for rent. Not to mention everything in Kelowna is massively fucking expensive (gas is $5 a gallon, $1.25/L).

[QUOTE=bohb;33744480]And what the fuck are you talking about needing more regulation? Obama is about as far left as you can get without being communist, and look how he ruined the country. He's racked up a national debt [B]larger than all of the former presidents combined[/B] in [B]just 3 years[/B].[/QUOTE] I'm sorry mate. Much as I may agree that the folks currently in office have aided in fucking us over royally, you simply cannot blame all of our troubles on Obama. A single president is not responsible for this, just as a single term of House Representatives is not responsible for this. We have been getting fucked over more and more for years, if not decades.

[QUOTE=seano12;33740275]The solution is this : [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMz8PKe5RFU[/media][/QUOTE] Is this game supposed to make us love the poor, innocent bankers or something? Because it's working.

[QUOTE=Kuro.;33740875][B]Armed rebellion won't happen in America though, the military is far too powerful[/B] for the citizenry to even dream of rebelling against and law enforcement these days are kitted out in military-grade gear because of the threat of 'terrorism' (which is probably what the powers-that-be would classify a citizen's revolt as). The rich and wealthy have nothing to fear from the peasantry, no matter how hard times get. [editline]15th December 2011[/editline] No, it means you're perfectly sane.[/QUOTE] The military would be split in the half the moment their ordered to fire upon rebels. IT would be the civil War all over again and with a large part of our fighting force overseas, it would be quite easy actually. The main problem about starting a rebellion is the fact that the only people willing to throw anything away are extremists.

[QUOTE=bohb;33744480]One single piece of shit legislation put the states in this position: N.A.F.T.A. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnVL0d9fwkY[/media] And what the fuck are you talking about needing more regulation? Obama is about as far left as you can get without being communist, and look how he ruined the country. He's racked up a national debt [B]larger than all of the former presidents combined[/B] in [B]just 3 years[/B]. In fact, look how fucked Europe is from socialism, nothing is going to get them out of that mess. Regulatory agencies in the government are primarily staffed by ill trained or non-trained people off the street to give them jobs "to solve the jobs problem." We don't need more people that have no idea what they're doing to attempt to manage something they know zero about, that didn't need managing in the first place. The single thing that would fix the job market is repealing N.A.F.T.A. and closing the huge loophole that corporations can use to outsource to other countries, but we all know this will never happen.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5qMDc.png[/IMG] Yes, look at poor Europe, all those poor people who can't even afford healthc- Oh...

[QUOTE=Big Bang;33740399]Tax the rich, for fuck sakes, don't take money from those who don't have it.[/QUOTE] Don't tax the rich, they'll starve! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkbZR7L9Ong[/media]

[QUOTE=Miskav;33744986][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5qMDc.png[/IMG] Yes, look at poor Europe, all those poor people who can't even afford healthc- Oh...[/QUOTE] just curious, where and when is this from?

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33743778] Right now workers around the world are being played against each other, in a contest to make people desperate enough to work for less and less, while the corporations are more profitable than ever.[/QUOTE] What you're suggesting would make everything more expensive because of the phillips curve, and corporations needing to maintain their profit margins. Just because the workers are richer doesn't mean life gets better, because everything gets more expensive. Basically back to square one. I hate when people try to pretend they know what's best when they haven't even taken basic economics yet.

[QUOTE=Jaehead;33745054]just curious, where and when is this from?[/QUOTE] Posted on the first page, source/validation was also provided iirc. The point still stands even if the image is slightly off, Europe is much better off economically if you look at the individual citizen.

Thank god I live in Australia

[QUOTE=Glaber;33740272]With Obama in Office, why am I not surprised? And that's not how Trickle down economics work.[/QUOTE] You wouldn't know good policy if it hit you in the face. It's been proven time and time again that the trickle-down theory doesn't work. What happens when you allow richer Americans to have a tax break? They don't use it to create more jobs, they simply give themselves a bonus with the gap. Wake up to the real world, it's a bitter place. I'm getting sick of your inability to realize what's going on, and that tax breaks and faulty policy based on broken theories will not fix this country. It's not like you even benefit from any Republican policy-making anyways, unless you have something to admit to all of us, which would be that you're some millionaire creeping around a discussion thread. It's almost to the point where anything you say can't be considered amusing anymore, it's just plain ignorant.