[QUOTE=Boxbot219;39929176]Yeah, except for the part where they are waiting to be potentially killed like a violent, walking animal.[/QUOTE]
Not really. The way they're put down is quite "tame".
They're pampered and slowly escorted, than they lay down and just get an injection.
You don't serve a stag some fancy dinner, then slowly drug it.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;39929168]
Types of posts. This guys would prefer inmates have to suffer through such an existence. One could argue that this is a fate worse than death.[/quote]
You know that a country's prison system is a joke when people can say that going to prison for life is worse than death row.
Not something at all to be proud of.
Like seriously. I find it hilarious how child like some of your views on death and the right to live are.
It's not childish for believing in punishment for offenders.
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[QUOTE=Boxbot219;39929200]You know that a country's prison system is a joke when people can say that going to prison for life is worse than death row.
Not something at all to be proud of.[/QUOTE]
Going to death row is better or equal to prison for life? If they're in for that long they're in max security and max security is basically a giant dorm room of inmates, rather than an overcrowded pit.
This is a map of capital punishment worldwide.
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Death_Penalty_World_Map.svg/1000px-Death_Penalty_World_Map.svg.png[/IMG]
[B][Blue] Abolished for all crimes
[Green] Abolished for crimes not committed in exceptional circumstances (such as crimes committed in time of war)
[Orange] Legal form of punishment but not used in the last 10 years (or has a moratorium in effect).
[Tan] Legal form of punishment for certain offenses[/B]
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39929204]Like seriously. I find it hilarious how child like some of your views on death and the right to live are.
It's not childish for believing in punishment for offenders.[/QUOTE]
Believing in a prison system's purpose to be explicitly for punishment is exactly why America's re-offending rate is so immense. Also before anyone claims that killing people serves as a deterrent the murder rates in states that have the death penalty says otherwise.
I like how you call us childish when your way of describing lethal injection is that "they just lay down and get an injection" completely ignoring the sheer horror of knowing you are going to die.
People know they are going to die every day they get up, in every form of media, they are reminded of the fact that they are aging, or that there is something out there that can end them. The entire fucking makeup industry is built around the concept of repressing age.
The re offending rate in america isn't because they use punishment, it's because they fucking treat it like it's a goddamn zoo. Encouraging criminals to make gangs together inside a prison and adopting a war time mentality to survive fucks a person up.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;39929268]People know they are going to die every day they get up, in every form of media, they are reminded of the fact that they are aging, or that there is something out there that can end them. The entire fucking makeup industry is built around the concept of repressing age.[/QUOTE]
Wowee this post sure convinced me that the death penalty is A-ok.
I guess all those people who have kicked and screamed and begged for their lives at the end of a rope, gun, or needle sure have a lot to learn from you.
[QUOTE=King Tiger;39929168]
Types of posts. This guys would prefer inmates have to suffer through such an existence. One could argue that this is a fate worse than death.[/QUOTE]
Thats more of an issue with the prison system itself rather than the justice system. US prisons need reform pretty badly.
[QUOTE=Persecution;39928650]So the families of people that some asshole raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered, and then ate, don't have the right to see the bastard die for his crimes?[/QUOTE]
If you're going to take revenge, do it yourself. The government shouldn't be killing people.
[QUOTE=Boxbot219;39929305]Wowee this post sure convinced me that the death penalty is A-ok.
I guess all those people who have kicked and screamed and begged for their lives at the end of a rope, gun, or needle sure have a lot to learn from you.[/QUOTE]
Begging has nothing to do with a fucking court system. They are tried for many years, decades, they have their chance to beg.
[QUOTE=Persecution;39928650]So the families of people that some asshole raped, tortured, mutilated, murdered, and then ate, don't have the right to see the bastard die for his crimes?[/QUOTE]
Gandhi, mate. Remember Gandhi.
Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929363]If you're going to take revenge, do it yourself. The government shouldn't be killing people.[/QUOTE]
Don't do this either
[QUOTE=tommyc225;39929372]Gandhi, mate. Remember Gandhi.
Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.[/QUOTE]
excuse me that was captain price in modern warfare
[QUOTE=Lonestriper;39929400]Don't do this either[/QUOTE]
Yeah okay, well let me know when your wife/child is raped/murdered and we'll see how much you believe in the judicial system.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929459]Yeah okay, well let me know when your wife/child is raped/murdered and we'll see how much you believe in the judicial system.[/QUOTE]
STARRING CHARLES BRONSON
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929459]Yeah okay, well let me know when your wife/child is raped/murdered and we'll see how much you believe in the judicial system.[/QUOTE]
are you really basing your argument on "well if you were grieving and in an unstable emotional state where you weren't capable of thinking clearly and logically, i bet you would want to kill people!"
Honestly we should be putting more time into finding ways to stop the killing rather than trying to make up for an innocent death after the fact. Where's all those pro-guns guys in facepunch who are always using the mental health argument?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929459]Yeah okay, well let me know when your wife/child is raped/murdered and we'll see how much you believe in the judicial system.[/QUOTE]
People like you are why we have such a terrible country.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;39929485]are you really basing your argument on "well if you were grieving and in an unstable emotional state where you weren't capable of thinking clearly and logically, i bet you would want to kill people!"[/QUOTE]
If someone raped or killed my wife or my child, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking "the court system will take care of him!"
So you can rate me a box all you want but expecting someone who lost the love of their life to just sit around with their dick in their hand for months for "justice to be served" is even dumber.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929564]If someone raped or killed my wife or my child, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking "the court system will take care of him!"
So you can rate me a box all you want but expecting someone who lost the love of their life to just sit around with their dick in their hand for months for "justice to be served" is even dumber.[/QUOTE]
Party like it's the Neolithic Age!
I'll fetch my club and we can enact primitive justice!
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929564]If someone raped or killed my wife or my child, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking "the court system will take care of him!"
So you can rate me a box all you want but expecting someone who lost the love of their life to just sit around with their dick in their hand for months for "justice to be served" is even dumber.[/QUOTE]
What's dumb is stooping to their level. What are you going to do? Rape or kill one of his family members? I don't think so.
[QUOTE=tommyc225;39929575]What's dumb is stooping to their level. What are you going to do? Rape or kill one of his family members? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
Or you know, kill the person that did it, painfully. Tear eyelids off with pliers, that sort of thing. That'd certainly make me feel better.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929589]Or you know, kill the person that did it, painfully. Tear eyelids off with pliers, that sort of thing. That'd certainly make me feel better.[/QUOTE]
Would certainly suck if you took revenge on the wrong person.
Also you are messed up.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929589]Or you know, kill the person that did it, painfully. Tear eyelids off with pliers, that sort of thing. That'd certainly make me feel better.[/QUOTE]
You're very sick.
[IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bd/JohnnyGarrett.jpg/220px-JohnnyGarrett.jpg[/IMG]
do you see this guy? he was 17 at the time he was convicted, and executed at age 28
he was fucking innocent
where is his justice? who gets punished in this case? how the hell do you pay his family back for the death of their son that was sanctioned by the government itself? he isn't the only wrongly executed man, there's several others, and even more in death row waiting their lethal injection when they can be not guilty
death penalty is nothing but institutionalized revenge that doesn't serve anything
it's often motivated by emotional anger and impulsiveness rather than methodical investigation, do you really trust a jury system that can be manipulated by emotion, really trust prosecutors even though there's thousands of cases of prosecutorial misconduct, really trust the government even though we complain about them the entire damn time to decide whether a human being should live or not?
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929589]Or you know, kill the person that did it, painfully. Tear eyelids off with pliers, that sort of thing. That'd certainly make me feel better.[/QUOTE]
I think you need help.
Society is at a point where this kind of ideology shouldn't exist. Sad really.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929564]If someone raped or killed my wife or my child, I wouldn't be sitting there thinking "the court system will take care of him!"
So you can rate me a box all you want but expecting someone who lost the love of their life to just sit around with their dick in their hand for months for "justice to be served" is even dumber.[/QUOTE]
What a disgusting post. Are you saying that the people who have had someone they loved get murdered who didn't go out and kill the murderer are dumb?
This posts insults the families of victims of murder by essentially saying that by not going out and getting revenge on their loved one's murderer they are sitting around with their dick in their hands. Good job. A+.
[QUOTE=tommyc225;39929623]I think you need help.
Society is at a point where this kind of ideology shouldn't exist. Sad really.[/QUOTE]
Again, let me know when your girlfriend/wife/son/daughter/mother/father/brother/sister is killed by some shithead that had to get into the car drunk that night.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929629]Again, let me know when your girlfriend/wife/son/daughter/mother/father/brother/sister is killed by some shithead that had to get into the car drunk that night.[/QUOTE]
Torture isn't justice it's torture.
[QUOTE=Daniel M;39929629]Again, let me know when your girlfriend/wife/son/daughter/mother/father/brother/sister is killed by some shithead that had to get into the car drunk that night.[/QUOTE]
So you want to kill someone because of their drunken mistake? Drink driving is a big thing, but no one ever wants to kill someone doing it. What, you think causing the guy pain will make things better?
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