FATALITY: 17 year old student dies in Glasgow after taking mystery pill dubbed 'Mortal Kombat'
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[QUOTE=cricket50;43792318]fuck its almost as if nobody on this forum has ever had any fun[/QUOTE]
Are you the reason they invented Mr. Yuk stickers?
[QUOTE=cricket50;43792318]fuck its almost as if nobody on this forum has ever had any fun[/QUOTE]
i'm gonna shoot up some krokodil tonight
YOLO
I bet the pill pulled out his still beating heart from out of his chest and ate it!
[QUOTE=TheTopMostDog;43791024]What's dumb is people taking pills. Pills with source unverified. Before you guys go on about how 'Mortal Kombat' isn't an unknown drug, you have to understand that the majority of people who take any club drugs are doing so on the faith that it is what it is being claimed to be. I mean, c'mon.. How stupid are people, really? Even if the pill is exactly what they claim to be, there's no telling what your reaction to the drug will be. You could even be allergic to one of its ingredients. What percentage of clubbers know what ingredients go into these drugs? If you don't take the drug, you aren't taking the risk. It's just as simple as that.
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Please don't misunderstand me, I do not intend to be cruel; it [U]is[/U] sad.. I have just dealt with so many people taking risks and coming out pooly, I've been questioning for years why people just keep taking these risks.[/QUOTE]
Unavoidable consequences of an illegal market. MDMA is one of the most chemically safe drugs out there, even more so than weed. Why do we keep taking risks with illegal drugs you ask? Because drugs are fun. Drugs are fucking incredible tools for partying, intense self exploration or just chilling out, but with an unregulated market you've got to trust your dealer. Places like silkroad can cut down on this type of thing. The drug that she took, known as meow meow only exists as an analogue for MDMA. Meow Meow can of course be used safely if one is educated, but it sounds like she died because she took a pill, saw it wasn't working and took another one. That's literally playing with fire there.
In regards to your argument "what if i'm allergic to it?", the same can be said with anything. If i go to say, japan and eat eel sushi i could very well be allergic to it. Life is a series of risks that you take every day, you take steps to reduce those risks. The same rings true with drug use. There are risks so you work to reduce them.
Drugs need to be legal so this sort of thing stops happening. I mean all drugs too. Even heroin? Yeah, even heroin. The old adage goes "the only thing worse than legal heroin is illegal heroin." The approach we're taking isn't working and we need to focus on drug education and responsible use so this kind of thing doesn't happen. It's the only way we can stop these needless deaths. I could literally go on for hours about this.
eh heroin can never be safely taken recreationally... its essentially morphine, and morphine was legal for like 50-60 years since its invention till the 1920s and um...well it didn't work and they illegalised it because it was killing people because its so addictive
law isn't all or nothing, there are things that shouldn't be in the hands of people for good reasons you can't just let everybody have nuclear material haphazardly strewn about anymore because we learned that that is bad for the general public, its just much of our drug-control system is written so that nothing can ever be removed, only added. things like pot were considered useless when classified, now we know otherwise and the problem is we have too rigid of a system to fix it
To those who shout about having fun once in a while, look how teenager from the article is cheering from the amount of fun he gets.
its also a bit extreme to say you have to have drugs like MDMA, alcohol, heroin, or pot to have a good time. you can have a good time doing tons of other stuff and not have to worry about poorly made drugs or the fallout from them.
[QUOTE=The Aussie;43793910]Unavoidable consequences of an illegal market. MDMA is one of the most chemically safe drugs out there, even more so than weed. Why do we keep taking risks with illegal drugs you ask? Because drugs are fun. Drugs are fucking incredible tools for partying, intense self exploration or just chilling out, but with an unregulated market you've got to trust your dealer. Places like silkroad can cut down on this type of thing. The drug that she took, known as meow meow only exists as an analogue for MDMA. Meow Meow can of course be used safely if one is educated, but it sounds like she died because she took a pill, saw it wasn't working and took another one. That's literally playing with fire there.
In regards to your argument "what if i'm allergic to it?", the same can be said with anything. If i go to say, japan and eat eel sushi i could very well be allergic to it. Life is a series of risks that you take every day, you take steps to reduce those risks. The same rings true with drug use. There are risks so you work to reduce them.
Drugs need to be legal so this sort of thing stops happening. I mean all drugs too. Even heroin? Yeah, even heroin. The old adage goes "the only thing worse than legal heroin is illegal heroin." The approach we're taking isn't working and we need to focus on drug education and responsible use so this kind of thing doesn't happen. It's the only way we can stop these needless deaths. I could literally go on for hours about this.[/QUOTE]
wait, MDMA is more chemically safe than weed? i'm dumb and uneducated, please explain (being serious i'm kinda curious now)
all i was trying to articulate really is that ingesting a pill generally isnt going to result in your death and she shouldnt be branded an idiot for doing so. most things are generally fine with moderation, something i guess she kind of messed up on
just a heads up by the way Aussie, pma isnt meow meow (mephadrone)
Having it legal would open up options for addicts to seek better treatment when they want to. Unlike the 1910's we can now track everyone and everything is connected by the Internet. Programs can be put in place to monitor (but not restrict) people's use of heroin. If someone goes over a threshold you could have a "drug social worker" come in and talk to the person. If the person isn't actually worried about their use they can say no thank you, but if they are informed they may be using too much they can ask for help. Nipping an addiction in the bud is much, much easier than trying to treat full blown addicts. The tax revenues made by selling drugs can be used to fund this drug welfare agency. Although i'm not saying that's the perfect idea, people smarter than me could probably come up with a better solution.
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[QUOTE=halflambada;43794161]wait, MDMA is more chemically safe than weed? i'm dumb and uneducated, please explain (being serious i'm kinda curious now)[/QUOTE]
David Nutt was the former head of the drug advisory council in the UK. He is a psychiatrist and neuropsychopharmacologist. He was sacked for advocating full drug legalisation and psuhing for cannabis and MDMA legalisation. He famously said that statistically, horse riding is more dangerous than consuming MDMA.
Sources: [url=http://profdavidnutt.wordpress.com/]Here[/url] [url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/18/scientists-study-ecstasy-drugs-mdma-potential]Here[/url] [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4537874/Ecstasy-no-more-dangerous-than-horse-riding.html]Here[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HarmCausedByDrugsTable.svg]and[/url] [url=http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/david-nutt-magic-mushrooms-interview]Here.[/url]
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[QUOTE=cricket50;43794186]all i was trying to articulate really is that ingesting a pill generally isnt going to result in your death and she shouldnt be branded an idiot for doing so. most things are generally fine with moderation, something i guess she kind of messed up on
just a heads up by the way Aussie, pma isnt meow meow (mephadrone)[/QUOTE]
Sorry about that, got mixed up. There are a lot of research chemicals after all and i'm more of a fan of traditional drugs (although i have used both).
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[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_%28mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence%29.svg[/img]
This is an excellent chart too halflambada.
[QUOTE=massaki;43791544]Just don't do drugs ever.[/QUOTE]
It's fun tho
[QUOTE=Sableye;43794148]its also a bit extreme to say you have to have drugs like MDMA, alcohol, heroin, or pot to have a good time. you can have a good time doing tons of other stuff and not have to worry about poorly made drugs or the fallout from them.[/QUOTE]
But drugs are awesome. Hell, ever notice a drink was spiked and keep drinking? Good times.
[QUOTE=Bazsil;43789296]Who [i]willingly[/i] takes unknown pills when out clubbing[/QUOTE]
Me.. Privilege, Ibiza 2k13
[QUOTE=Sableye;43794098]eh heroin can never be safely taken recreationally... its essentially morphine, and morphine was legal for like 50-60 years since its invention till the 1920s and um...well it didn't work and they illegalised it because it was killing people because its so addictive
law isn't all or nothing, there are things that shouldn't be in the hands of people for good reasons you can't just let everybody have nuclear material haphazardly strewn about anymore because we learned that that is bad for the general public, its just much of our drug-control system is written so that nothing can ever be removed, only added. things like pot were considered useless when classified, now we know otherwise and the problem is we have too rigid of a system to fix it[/QUOTE]
Lol no, heroine was made illegal because it was being prescribed amongst doctors like it was harmless miracle cures for everything and people got addicted cause they didn't know that what they were buying dangerous drugs because the makers weren't obliged to even say what the medicine contained.
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Tl;dr heroin is dangerous when the government is incompetent
Mortal Kombat!
A drug called Mortal Kombat? What next - a drug called Fallout?
they're actually a really good press but it seems there is a few different batches going around
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[QUOTE=Secrios;43793702]I bet the pill pulled out his still beating heart from out of his chest and ate it![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Elecbullet;43794381]It's fun tho[/QUOTE]
In my opinion you can have fun without them. If there's a situation where you're not having fun without drugs then it was never going to be fun to begin with.
Keep your body clean kids and stop taking lines and eccies.
The whole 'try everything once' 'you're young' isn't an argument either. Just because you haven't touched the stuff before doesn't mean you're fucking invincible. You're young, you've been told about the effects of class A illicit drugs in high school for a reason. There's no way of telling if they are clean or not. Just plain and simply don't bother with them
I'm tee-total so I can't really counter argument with the whole alcohol thing (even though there is none, the long term effects of alcohol are worse than most drugs)
[QUOTE=massaki;43796117]In my opinion you can have fun without them. If there's a situation where you're not having fun without drugs then it was never going to be fun to begin with.
Keep your body clean kids and stop taking lines and eccies.
The whole 'try everything once' 'you're young' isn't an argument either. Just because you haven't touched the stuff before doesn't mean you're fucking invincible. You're young, you've been told about the effects of class A illicit drugs in high school for a reason. There's no way of telling if they are clean or not. Just plain and simply don't bother with them
I'm tee-total so I can't really counter argument with the whole alcohol thing (even though there is none, the long term effects of alcohol are worse than most drugs)[/QUOTE]
don't listen to this guy. responsible drug use will give you some of the most amazing experiences of your life. just don't be a moron about it and you'll be fine
WHOOPS I DIED OF DRUGS KEK #YODO @River_Styx
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;43796225]don't listen to this guy. responsible drug use will give you some of the most amazing experiences of your life. just don't be a moron about it and you'll be fine[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I forgot I'm such a square.
All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life, but maybe it would take one of your friends being hospitalized by a dodgy pill to actually do that.
I like to imagine after taking the drug you perceive reality as the hellish nightmare realms and your one of the many corpses being burned, impaled and screaming in the MK background stages.
[QUOTE=massaki;43796243]Sorry, I forgot I'm such a square.
All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life, but maybe it would take one of your friends being hospitalized by a dodgy pill to actually do that.[/QUOTE]
This is not necessarily true, an LSD experience now and then could be the most amazing experiences in your life but meanwhile you're just smoking weed a few times a week - drugs can give you experiences stronger and more insightful than anything, and so what if you do drugs to have fun? If you're happy and not addicted then you're fine even if it plays a large part in your life. Id rather be happy on drugs than depressed and healthy.
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If you're happy never touching a mind altering substance then good, stay away if you feel like it.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43796294]This is not necessarily true, an LSD experience now and then could be the most amazing experiences in your life but meanwhile you're just smoking weed a few times a week - drugs can give you experiences stronger and more insightful than anything, and so what if you do drugs to have fun? If you're happy and not addicted then you're fine even if it plays a large part in your life. Id rather be happy on drugs than depressed and healthy.
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If you're happy never touching a mind altering substance then good, stay away if you feel like it.[/QUOTE]
The issue generally comes when it's suggested that you're not going to enjoy life without taking drugs. I know that's not how it's often meant, but when one hears "Drugs will give you the most amazing experiences of your life" it's hard not to interpret it as "you know those amazing experiences that you hold dear? They're not really that amazing, square."
[QUOTE=SecretDuck;43795715]A drug called Mortal Kombat? What next - a drug called Fallout?[/QUOTE]
It's not a drug called Mortal Combat, it's an ecstasy (or sadly not) pill variety called Mortal Combat. Plenty of video game names about - nintendos, Mario all stars etc.
Yet another reason to tolerate pill taking in at least club environments and offer easy access to or on site pill testing facilities.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;43796504]The issue generally comes when it's suggested that you're not going to enjoy life without taking drugs. I know that's not how it's often meant, but when one hears "Drugs will give you the most amazing experiences of your life" it's hard not to interpret it as "you know those amazing experiences that you hold dear? They're not really that amazing, square."[/QUOTE]
Okay but is that issue really a realistic argument against drugs? It's not like most psychedelic or opiate users go around forcing other people to take drugs, that's more along the lines of alcohol and perhaps weed - and if you interpret somebody talking about their drugs as an amazing experience in a way that makes you feel like you are not living your life fully and want to delve into the drug culture then you were probably inclined to do drugs anyway - it's not like I watch every TV show my friend watches because he keeps praising them as being amazing.
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Drug use is taboo and there are so many things that could be improved not only through legalization but to make people realise it's not as harmful and morally wrong, to remove this cultural veil and actually help people instead of criminalizing them and making them outsiders of society because they are doing something they enjoy or do not enjoy but are addicted to.
[QUOTE=massaki;43796243]Sorry, I forgot I'm such a square.
All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life, but maybe it would take one of your friends being hospitalized by a dodgy pill to actually do that.[/QUOTE]
People need to be given majorly heavy stuff for 1 "pill" to kill you. Some girl I'd encountered some time ago died from "one" pill at a party when the reality was that she had about £40-£50 worth of ecstasy in about half an hour.
I thought people knew the Daily Mail Lied out of their bum holes, and when it's about teenagers dying from an OD it will almost never be one pill.
Fucking hate calling them pills makes them seem more sketchy than they actualy are, and the fact of the matter is that people drink alcohol all the time, so what's so bad about doing ecstasy, LSD, weed? Alcohol fucks you up as much as any of the "dangerous" drugs out there so the reason for this death, as far as the info from the article goes is that it was a shifty, stranger pill.
Never buy any drug from a complete stranger in the town, as good as it seems after running out of stripe, shit will probably go south.
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;43790715]why is everyone asking about the drug rather than the fact that a 17 year old was in a club?
also mortal kombat isn't "unknown", they were going about at the Wickerman festival in scotland last summer. Mates who took it are surprisingly still alive.[/QUOTE]
I think the Arches (where this happened) is a venue and not a club, I know that there was some house dj or something on that night.
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