• FATALITY: 17 year old student dies in Glasgow after taking mystery pill dubbed 'Mortal Kombat'
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[QUOTE=Instant Mix;43790715] also mortal kombat isn't "unknown", they were going about at the Wickerman festival in scotland last summer. Mates who took it are surprisingly still alive.[/QUOTE]Out of all the MDMA I've done, Kombats are one of my favourite low-roll pills (only about 200mg of MDMA in them). This is a one-off story from the Daily Mail about some tainted localised batch. Your friends are fully healthy and had an awesome time.
[QUOTE=massaki;43796243]All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life[/QUOTE] stupid way of thinking common misconception of people who've never experimented with anything is that the experience of any drug is just a front for some sort of enjoyment you're not confident to have without it. that's just not the case. doing any sort of drug is a totally [I]different[/I] experience to not doing the drug it's not a case of heightening yourself to have more fun, it's just completely [I]different[/I] fun. i'm sure you can have a great time and lots of fun without drugs - so can i - but i can also have a totally different fun time if i do take drugs. what's wrong with that? [quote]you seriously need to reevaluate your life[/QUOTE] so fucking offensive and "holier than thou" get the fuck over yourself. i do drugs. i'm also a degree student making a living off selling my art and making video games. so no my life is pretty fucking sweet and i'm not going to reevaluate it so go screw yourself asshole
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;43797914]common misconception of people who've never experimented with anything is that the experience of any drug is just a front for some sort of enjoyment you're not confident to have without it. that's just not the case. doing any sort of drug is a totally [I]different[/I] experience to not doing the drug it's not a case of heightening yourself to have more fun, it's just completely [I]different[/I] fun. i'm sure you can have a great time and lots of fun without drugs - so can i - but i can also have a totally different fun time if i do take drugs. what's wrong with that? so fucking offensive and "holier than thou" get the fuck over yourself. i do drugs. i'm also a degree student making a living off selling my art and making video games. so no my life is pretty fucking sweet and i'm not going to reevaluate it so go screw yourself asshole[/QUOTE] The problem occurs from the fact a vocal subset of drug takers (be it these kinds of drugs, or alcohol) do push an attitude of "if you don't take drugs you are boring/have no life", which in turn creates the misconception. I don't do drugs or drink alcohol, but I don't have any problem with people that do. Some of my best friends do, I accept the fact they do, and they accept the fact that I don't, and we always have a good laugh. If people on the other hand start accusing me of being boring and saying I have no life for not taking drugs, then I'm not going to take kindly from it. I've seen plenty of posts in this forum about drugs and alcohol such as "lol if you don't drink your never gonna get laid" which is totally untrue and quite offensive.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43794098]eh heroin can never be safely taken recreationally... its essentially morphine, and morphine was legal for like 50-60 years since its invention till the 1920s and um...well it didn't work and they illegalised it because it was killing people because its so addictive law isn't all or nothing, there are things that shouldn't be in the hands of people for good reasons you can't just let everybody have nuclear material haphazardly strewn about anymore because we learned that that is bad for the general public, its just much of our drug-control system is written so that nothing can ever be removed, only added. things like pot were considered useless when classified, now we know otherwise and the problem is we have too rigid of a system to fix it[/QUOTE] If heroin was pure all the time and you had the right amount and the bank balance you can sustain a heroin addiction.
how long do you think it took them to engrave that dragon into the pill?
Sooner or later, fighters like Sub-Zero and Raiden are going to sue the shit out of those that made the pills in the first place.
[QUOTE=Nerokhan;43799123]Sooner or later, fighters like Sub-Zero and Raiden are going to sue the shit out of those that made the pills in the first place.[/QUOTE] who knows, maybe they will make their own pills.
[QUOTE=Nagisa3;43799061]how long do you think it took them to engrave that dragon into the pill?[/QUOTE] they use presses. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Nerokhan;43799123]Sooner or later, fighters like Sub-Zero and Raiden are going to sue the shit out of those that made the pills in the first place.[/QUOTE] sue who, the people making illegal drugs?
[QUOTE=Autumn;43799136]they use presses. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] sue who, the people making illegal drugs?[/QUOTE] The ones making illegal drugs in that sense.
Never understood why people go for extacy pills when you could just get pure MD instead. Is is just a cost thing? If so then that's a pretty weak excuse for such a gamble.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43796294]This is not necessarily true, an LSD experience now and then could be the most amazing experiences in your life but meanwhile you're just smoking weed a few times a week - drugs can give you experiences stronger and more insightful than anything, and so what if you do drugs to have fun? If you're happy and not addicted then you're fine even if it plays a large part in your life. Id rather be happy on drugs than depressed and healthy.[/QUOTE] The thing about the most amazing experiences while on drugs is that life becomes so much duller after you get your first epic drug trip. If you had a good trip, nothing in real life will ever get close to that experience.
I saw 'Mortal Kombat' written on a spider diagram on 'why not to do drugs' that someone had written on a white board at school today. Thought someone had written that as a joke.
If we had the free drug-testing labs that Holland has, this wouldnt be an issue. Like, at all. But that "gives off the wrong message" Get fucked Theresa May, vile cunt.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43795578]Lol no, heroine was made illegal because it was being prescribed amongst doctors like it was harmless miracle cures for everything and people got addicted cause they didn't know that what they were buying dangerous drugs because the makers weren't obliged to even say what the medicine contained. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] Tl;dr heroin is dangerous when the government is incompetent[/QUOTE] they didn't understand that heroin was morphine when the liver processes it, so they used it to TREAT morphine addiction since tada it made the withdrawal symptoms go away. it wasn't government incompetence it was a lack of understanding, and the fact that destructive morphine addiction existed during unregulated times means that it should be illegal because it and its derivatives can't be used safely for recreational purposes.
[QUOTE=cyanidem;43799467]Never understood why people go for extacy pills when you could just get pure MD instead. Is is just a cost thing? If so then that's a pretty weak excuse for such a gamble.[/QUOTE] i assume by "pure MD" you mean crystal mdma, instead of in pill form? crystal can have just as much chance of being low quality as pills do, whether that be through adulteration (less likely than with pills) or just of a poor quality. unless you're lucky enough to get quality rocks that you know are from a reputable source then you're running almost the same risk, especially if it's already crushed. generally speaking, yes, pills do have a reputation for being for being of a much lower quality (because hey, they normally are) but when you find good pills, they are very good. you can measure your dosage far more easily than through bombs/lines, and they're a lot more convenient (unless you plan on staying inside the whole time). yes, if it came down to a case of shit pills against pure mdma then there'd be no question about which was superior. however, given that there's no way to guarantee the quality of the crystal you're getting (unless you're lucky enough to have a quality source) then you run almost as much risk with crystal as you do with pills, even more so considering it's harder to dose. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] and for good quality pills the cost is the same, at least
[QUOTE=Sableye;43799632]they didn't understand that heroin was morphine when the liver processes it, so they used it to TREAT morphine addiction since tada it made the withdrawal symptoms go away. it wasn't government incompetence it was a lack of understanding, and the fact that destructive morphine addiction existed during unregulated times means that it should be illegal because it and its derivatives can't be used safely for recreational purposes.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it can be used safely for recreational purposes, and having it illegal only makes the addicts who need help, criminals, and so they keep their addiction secret and therefor never get help.
[QUOTE=SuPeR_MaN;43795776]they're actually a really good press but it seems there is a few different batches going around -snipe-[/QUOTE] "Really good press" The bottom 4 are utter shite they haven't even used a proper dye. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Nagisa3;43799061]how long do you think it took them to engrave that dragon into the pill?[/QUOTE] It's on a stamp when it's pressed.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;43799563]The thing about the most amazing experiences while on drugs is that life becomes so much duller after you get your first epic drug trip. If you had a good trip, nothing in real life will ever get close to that experience.[/QUOTE] It doesn't need to get close to it. It's an experience. A lot of people actually find drug experiences helpful with introspection and examining where they think they fit in the world, etc. so while they may not match the experience in "real life" they can have their "real life" positively affected by their drug experiences. Some people do end up chasing the high in detriment to everything else in their lives and those people have a problem but by no means would life become dull for everyone.
[QUOTE=MeltingData;43789045][URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2551403/Schoolgirl-dies-taking-red-ecstasy-style-pill-dubbed-Mortal-Kombat-amid-warnings-new-type-drug-slowly-releases-narcotic.html[/URL][/QUOTE] I don't do drugs because Pee-Wee Herman told me not to: [video=youtube;0WTD9yj3puA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTD9yj3puA[/video]
[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;43790273]yeah man a guy died, lol, survival of the fittest!! no, thats just dumb and pretty mean to boot. who said this person wouldnt accomplish something in their life?[/QUOTE] They did by taking an something without knowing what it was?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;43795578]Lol no, heroine was made illegal because it was being prescribed amongst doctors like it was harmless miracle cures for everything and people got addicted cause they didn't know that what they were buying dangerous drugs because the makers weren't obliged to even say what the medicine contained. [editline]5th February 2014[/editline] Tl;dr heroin is dangerous when the government is incompetent[/QUOTE] It almost sounds like today, where people are prescribed powerful synthetic opiates for pain relief and become addicted. Now that they crack down on prescription drug abuse people then turn to the cheaper alternative heroin to manage their addiction. Why are prescription opiates dangerous? They are like heroin in the fact that they were manufactured to reach the brain quicker through bypassing the liver, blood brain barrier, and kidneys more easily. Heroin is morphine with a couple of acetate groups added that allows for the drug to quickly bypass the blood brain barrier. Synthetic opiates do the same, but since we don't want patients using needles for administration they had to figure out a way to create a simple consumable pill that would relieve pain quickly. People don't know this and take what the doc gives them without any question (in health psychology one learns that people are intimidated by doctors because of their status and education thus they don't ask the necessary questions and don't want to be labelled as a 'bad patient', one who asks too many questions, causes delay in treatment,etc)). This is why we need to teach responsible drug use, but instead we have the DARE program and shit that doesn't teach responsibility. Oh and I forgot to mention, the way a drug is taken significantly changes how addictive/powerful it is on the user. Lets look at cocaine: Crack cocaine is smoked and has a high addition rate as all the drug needs to do is go from lungs, heart, then brain. Snorting powdered cocaine is less addictive than crack as it has to pass through the flesh in the nose into the ventricles and into the brain (since the lungs do a better job of allowing the drug to enter the blood stream than the inside of your nose). Now for the interesting bit. We all know coke used cocaine in their formula back in the day but got outlawed as they added cocaine to the list of banned substances, etc. Tinctures like these are drank so the drug has a lot more obstacles in their way to reach the brain (stomach enzymes, stomach lining, liver, kidneys, blood brain barrier, etc). This way of consuming drug shows almost no addiction signs, the same how natives in South America chew the leaves of the cocoa plant to help them work at higher altitudes. They do this not only to deal with the lack of oxygen and give them energy but to also suppress appetite so they can work longer. Anyway this produces a problem, on one end of the spectrum the drug is very addictive and on the other the drug is a good pick me up and can be used responsibly with ease. So where do we put it on the schedule list? That is the flaw with today's system, we lock away the entire substance because of its more dramatic effects.
[QUOTE=IGotWorms;43802224]I don't do drugs because Pee-Wee Herman told me not to: [video=youtube;0WTD9yj3puA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTD9yj3puA[/video][/QUOTE] Didn't he get arrested for cocaine?
[QUOTE=massaki;43796243]Sorry, I forgot I'm such a square. All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life, but maybe it would take one of your friends being hospitalized by a dodgy pill to actually do that.[/QUOTE] until you've done acid or mushrooms or whatever you will never ever EVER come close to understanding what the experience is like. if not being sheltered due to fear means i should reevaluate my life then whatever dude. and i seen one of my mates seizure and nearly die in front of me, all in the game. [editline]6th February 2014[/editline] to be fair though, that was literally the worst thing i've ever seen/experienced so uh, yeah be safe and responsible! don't use hard drugs if you're not in a healthy state & a good mind set, be ready to call an ambo if something DOES go wrong and only take heavy shit with friends! responsible drug use mates
[QUOTE=zach1193;43802369]Didn't he get arrested for cocaine?[/QUOTE] Probably. He got arrested for possession in 1971, which unless I'm mistaken was well before this commercial was made. He also got arrested for jerking off in a public theatre but unfortunately didn't make a PSA about not jerking off in public but hell...why should he?
You got to be careful with these things, you never know what's going to be the one that finishes you.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;43803062]You got to be careful with these things, you never know what's going to be the one that finishes you.[/QUOTE] They could've left out some information, mdma alone just isn't going to kill you in a low dose, however if he were taking another ssri or serotonin something or rather, the name escapes me at the moment, but when mixed, can cause a dangerous reaction known as serotonin syndrome which can be quite deadly and a more plausable idea than to get all riled up and scared over one teen's death. His death was unfortunate and none less tragic, but no real reason to cause alarm in the esctasy community because it's one death, now if a bunch of users had suddenly died and had reportedly taken the same type of pill, there'd be cause for concern. Even other drugs, unless he was allergic, which anyone can be allergic to anything, so it's that circular logic.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43799632]they didn't understand that heroin was morphine when the liver processes it, so they used it to TREAT morphine addiction since tada it made the withdrawal symptoms go away. it wasn't government incompetence it was a lack of understanding, and the fact that destructive morphine addiction existed during unregulated times means that it should be illegal because it and its derivatives can't be used safely for recreational purposes.[/QUOTE] Assuming it is flat out impossible to use safely for recreational purposes, that still doesn't change the fact that people are going to do it. The choice that is left is if we want to let people do it with a potentially tainted product and no way to get help without risking being put in jail, or with a pure product and the ability to seek help for an addiction without legal trouble? And is it really the government's job to decide what you can put into your body, even if you are risking yourself?
[QUOTE=TheTopMostDog;43791024]What's dumb is people taking pills. Pills with source unverified. Before you guys go on about how 'Mortal Kombat' isn't an unknown drug, you have to understand that the majority of people who take any club drugs are doing so on the faith that it is what it is being claimed to be. I mean, c'mon.. How stupid are people, really? Even if the pill is exactly what they claim to be, there's no telling what your reaction to the drug will be. You could even be allergic to one of its ingredients. What percentage of clubbers know what ingredients go into these drugs? If you don't take the drug, you aren't taking the risk. It's just as simple as that. [B]Edit:[/B] Please don't misunderstand me, I do not intend to be cruel; it [U]is[/U] sad.. I have just dealt with so many people taking risks and coming out pooly, I've been questioning for years why people just keep taking these risks.[/QUOTE] Ok, where am I supposed to get my ecstasy from then?
[QUOTE=cis.joshb;43803411]Assuming it is flat out impossible to use safely for recreational purposes, that still doesn't change the fact that people are going to do it. The choice that is left is if we want to let people do it with a potentially tainted product and no way to get help without risking being put in jail, or with a pure product and the ability to seek help for an addiction without legal trouble? And is it really the government's job to decide what you can put into your body, even if you are risking yourself?[/QUOTE] With regulated clean product and paraphernalia available at a non-extortionate price and unbiased educational material and help widely available it would be possible for addicts to function and maintain their addiction (with correct dosages, etc.) to a point they could continue other life activities such as family and friends engagements and employment. Much of the problems with opiate addiction in today's society come from issues relating to a lack or deficit of these things. The taboos and the "lock them up to help them" mentality don't help and it's time we got rid of them and that medical personnel were compelled to carry Naloxone regardless of their own prejudices about it.
[QUOTE=massaki;43796243]Sorry, I forgot I'm such a square. All I'm saying is if you're relying on drugs to have 'one of the most amazing times of your life' then you seriously need to reevaluate your life, but maybe it would take one of your friends being hospitalized by a dodgy pill to actually do that.[/QUOTE] you physically and mentally cannot experience what you experience on many different drugs without those drugs. going through that experience has taught me more about myself, other people, and given me some really amazing experiences to reflect on that I would never have gotten without it. Use responsibly, but I think there's something to be said for losing yourself and finding yourself.
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