Violence erupts as protesters chase and attack Trump supporters in San Jose (live) - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Fouytan222;50448911]You literally called him a racist. Against his own race. Do you really think that [i]anyone[/i] wouldn't get riled up after such an awful accusation? When you do something as grievous of accusing somebody of being a racist, you really shouldn't brush it off with 'idk's and 'lol's.[/QUOTE] Yep, which is why I put a fucking yellow badge in the shape of a taco on my avatar since I'm sick of continually having all these social justice warriors assume I'm white and call me racist out of their own racist ignorance and unchecked privilege.

[QUOTE=sb27;50447484]It seems to be a habit of the far left to be self-defeating. In the US we see violent protesting against Trump, only giving Trump even more support in the end. We see people such as Maduro, who ran Venezuela into the ground under the guise of socialism, endorsing Bernie Sanders and ultimately harming the image of Sanders by having him associated with a dictator. In Australia too, the only time you ever hear about the Socialist Alliance or Socialist Alternative groups is when they're involved in a violent protest. Maybe if more people on the far left found a brain, then maybe the general population will become more sympathetic to their ideals, rather than associating them with corruption and violence.[/QUOTE] Attributing this behavior to the left is disingenuous and stupid. These are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up, it's not left wing scholars stomping around with Mexican flags and throwing eggs at people.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50447217]So, if Trump actually wins, it's completely on them. They brought it on themselves. They made a complete ass of themselves, thus proving him right at the cost of more votes for him.[/QUOTE] If trump wins, its all on the DNC and DWS for not backing an electable opponent

[QUOTE=srobins;50449458]Attributing this behavior to the left is disingenuous and stupid. These are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up, it's not left wing scholars stomping around with Mexican flags and throwing eggs at people.[/QUOTE] Isnt that what all creeds, ideals and movements devolve into it? A moral justification for immoral behavior?

[QUOTE=archangel125;50447825]Given how perfectly these 'protestors' seem to portray immigration from Mexico in an almost cartoon-villain fashion to the average Trump supporter, even going so far as to be burning US flags and waving Mexican ones, I'm starting to think you're right. Something about this stinks.[/QUOTE] You can't seriously be this much in denial, surely?

[QUOTE=srobins;50449458]Attributing this behavior to the left is disingenuous and stupid. These are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up, it's not left wing scholars stomping around with Mexican flags and throwing eggs at people.[/QUOTE] Poor people? Why are you so fucking racist? Just because they're Mexican that doesn't mean they're poor.

YOU GUYS STOP ARGUING THIS IS WHAT TRUMP WANTS

[QUOTE=hippowombat;50449574]YOU GUYS STOP ARGUING THIS IS WHAT TRUMP WANTS[/QUOTE] Remember kids, when the discussion doesn't go your way, and calling people racist backfires, just shut it down completely.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;50449592]Remember kids, when the discussion doesn't go your way, and calling people racist backfires, just shut it down completely.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I was being sarcastic. I understand you're upset but lashing out at [B][I]e v e r y o n e[/I][/B] in the thread isn't going to get you anywhere.

All it took was Broseph_ to storm this thread with his Hispanic wisdom and break the backs of the slimy Bernie boys in a single swoop. A true nobleman of our age. The Left will never, ever be united because they can't work together: [img]https://adastracomics.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/organize.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Vasili;50449616]All it took was Broseph_ to storm this thread with his Hispanic wisdom and break the backs of the slimy Bernie boys in a single swoop. A true nobleman of our age. The Left will never, ever be united because they can't work together: [img]https://adastracomics.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/organize.png[/img][/QUOTE] Y'know, I thought the Taco badge was a shitty joke, but because of this post I'm going to wear it with pride from now on.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;50449639]Y'know, I thought the Taco badge was a shitty joke, but because of this post I'm going to wear it with pride from now on.[/QUOTE] It needs toppings. Otherwise it looks like a sombrero.

[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50449644]It needs toppings. Otherwise it looks like a sombrero.[/QUOTE] Mission accomplished anyway.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;50449524]Poor people? Why are you so fucking racist? Just because they're Mexican that doesn't mean they're poor.[/QUOTE] Because typically well-to-do upper middle class Americans don't riot and beat the shit out of people in the streets.. Has literally nothing to do with race and considering the hubbub you just made about accusations of racism it's ironic you jumped straight to that. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50449513]Isnt that what all creeds, ideals and movements devolve into it? A moral justification for immoral behavior?[/QUOTE] You could make that argument yes, I just think people are attributing individual actions to leftist ideology in general, which I disagree with. I don't think the left is inherently violent and riotous and the fact that Trump has infuriated people who are left leaning is coincidental.

[QUOTE]You could make that argument yes, I just think people are attributing individual actions to leftist ideology in general, which I disagree with. I don't think the left is inherently violent and riotous and the fact that Trump has infuriated people who are left leaning is coincidental.[/QUOTE] It is not a critique of the left. It is a critique of ideas in general. I do not have a source, but I have read some where Buddhism has been used for justification for violence. Think about that for a second. An idea which denounces violence gets used to justify violence. The critique is while ideas can shape human behavior, it cannot transform it. Human nature however will do it best to transform a said idea to suit its nature, given enough time. This is what is being seen here.

[QUOTE=srobins;50449735]Because typically well-to-do upper middle class Americans don't riot and beat the shit out of people in the streets.. Has literally nothing to do with race and considering the hubbub you just made about accusations of racism it's ironic you jumped straight to that.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between a white person telling a Latino he's racist for denouncing a radical nationalist movement out of his own subconisious racist ignorance, and you coming along and calling a group of Mexicans poor, because you know, if you are a minority rioting you must be poor, and there's no way you can be well off. Either way it's a shameless diversion tactic on your part to shift attention away from the fact leftists have been organizing violence against Trump rallies all over the country.

[QUOTE=Broseph_;50449793]There's a difference between a white person telling a Latino he's racist for denouncing a radical nationalist movement out of his own subconisious racist ignorance, and you coming along and calling a group of Mexicans poor, because you know, if you are a minority rioting you must be poor, and there's no way you can be well off. Either way it's a shameless diversion tactic on your part to shift attention away from the fact leftists have been organizing violence against Trump rallies all over the country.[/QUOTE] When did I say anything about Mexicans? You realize there were a variety of non-Latino races participating in this riot right? I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by implying that violent rioters might be closer to the poverty line than their non-rioting counterparts, but implying I'm racist for pointing that out is just goofy dude. And like I said previously, I think the leftist violence is coincidental. I don't think there's anything about leftist ideology that is inherently violent or lending itself to organized violence, I just think Trump is extremely inflammatory and given that his positions are strongly right-leaning, it's kind of natural that the people who react to him happen to be left-leaning. Have you forgotten that Trump literally requests that his followers physically assault and beat people at his rallies, and offers to pay their legal fees, encouraging them to break the law? Pinning this on leftist politics in general is a way bigger diversion than me saying the rioters aren't on lunch break from their $100k salaried Facebook engineering positions.

I can't figure out if this guy is trolling or not. Right down to the avatar, it just seems unreal.

Been listening to some IRCs for a few militia groups I use to be in, and needless to say that the entire North American Militia Movement in the Southwest is fucking pissed right now. Oathkeepers and 3%ers are considering going to every Trump rally from this point on and protecting people from getting attacked. So yeah. Good job promoters of Mexican Fascism, you are probably going to get people shot now, thanks to your little retarded antics.

[QUOTE=cody8295;50449507]If trump wins, its all on the DNC and DWS for not backing an electable opponent[/QUOTE] No if Trump wins it's because politically illiterate people voted for him. The blame lies squarely with the people who vote Trump, and them alone.

I don't get the race thing. Can someone explain it to me? when I think of human races I think of genus that comprises the species Homo sapiens, Homohabilis and Homo neanderthalensis. all the other stuff it's just minor differences in skin tone and region of culture. I see no difference between a Caucasian, Mexican and a African American.

[QUOTE=archangel125;50447825]Given how perfectly these 'protestors' seem to portray immigration from Mexico in an almost cartoon-villain fashion to the average Trump supporter, even going so far as to be burning US flags and waving Mexican ones, I'm starting to think you're right. Something about this stinks.[/QUOTE] :conspiratard:

[QUOTE=srobins;50449458]Attributing this behavior to the left is disingenuous and stupid. These are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up, it's not left wing scholars stomping around with Mexican flags and throwing eggs at people.[/QUOTE] so are poor people barbarians now or something

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50450163]so are poor people barbarians now or something[/QUOTE] Sure, whatever. Clearly you've no intent to actually read what else I've said, so why not? Let's just pretend you're [I]not[/I] being ridiculously hyperbolic by extrapolating "poor people are barbarians" from my post, it'll make things go much smoother.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50450163]so are poor people barbarians now or something[/QUOTE] Poor people are what ever a narrative needs to be. An exploited mass when you want votes and a scapegoat when you need to shift blame. There is a significant growth in left leaning radicalism and violence and it is apparent that some media outlets are enabling/encouraging this. [media]https://twitter.com/emmettrensin/status/738583628855156742[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/emmettrensin/status/738584415169740801[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/emmettrensin/status/738607147836006400[/media] [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ihwluO6.jpg[/img_thumb] Don't be surprised if some outlets downplay this or try to claim that the rioters are victims.

[QUOTE=srobins;50450173]Sure, whatever. Clearly you've no intent to actually read what else I've said, so why not? Let's just pretend you're [I]not[/I] being ridiculously hyperbolic by extrapolating "poor people are barbarians" from my post, it'll make things go much smoother.[/QUOTE] i am not sure how else i am supposed to take "these are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up". yeah, i will admit that the poor probably are more likely to result to violence as it is more likely they have had worse education, but you pretty directly said that these mobs are *just* poor people and there aren't any upper-class people in the mix. that pretty directly implies that only poor people are prone to violence and rioting, and aren't even doing it for anything other than the thrill of it. did you mean to imply that their opinions didn't matter when compared to upper-class leftist scholars? because that is how i took it. if you meant to say something else, please clarify.

[QUOTE=chipsnapper2;50450052]I can't figure out if this guy is trolling or not. Right down to the avatar, it just seems unreal.[/QUOTE] I added the yellow taco badge in reaponse to some Waffen-SS cosplayer calling me racist for attacking the Chicano movement.

I don't understand why they're even waving the Mexican flag anyway. Are they on Mexico, or the USA? California is now a Mexican state? I insist, they're not making themselves look any better, or smarter than any Trump supporter. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] If Trump wins, you know who to thank for.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;50450094]Been listening to some IRCs for a few militia groups I use to be in, and needless to say that the entire North American Militia Movement in the Southwest is fucking pissed right now. Oathkeepers and 3%ers are considering going to every Trump rally from this point on and protecting people from getting attacked. So yeah. Good job promoters of Mexican Fascism, you are probably going to get people shot now, thanks to your little retarded antics.[/QUOTE] Chicano Fascism* Stop being so fucking racist. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50450293]I don't understand why they're even waving the Mexican flag anyway. Are they on Mexico, or the USA? California is now a Mexican state? I insist, they're not making themselves look any better, or smarter than any Trump supporter. [editline]3rd June 2016[/editline] If Trump wins, you know who to thank for.[/QUOTE] Same reason Neo-Nazis wave the swastika flag. They need a rallying point.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;50450215]i am not sure how else i am supposed to take "these are just poor people looking for an excuse to riot and beat people up". yeah, i will admit that the poor probably are more likely to result to violence as it is more likely they have had worse education, but you pretty directly said that these mobs are *just* poor people and there aren't any upper-class people in the mix. that pretty directly implies that only poor people are prone to violence and rioting, and aren't even doing it for anything other than the thrill of it. did you mean to imply that their opinions didn't matter when compared to upper-class leftist scholars? because that is how i took it. if you meant to say something else, please clarify.[/QUOTE] It should be pretty obvious by all of my follow up posts, including my reply to you, that I hadn't intended to imply only poor people riot, but as you've already agreed, people in poverty are more likely to participate. I could have chosen more sensitive wording but I guess I had forgotten I'm posting in a forum where the main objective is to catch somebody saying something that could be construed or interpreted negatively and jump on them for it. It's ridiculous to imply I think poor people's opinions don't matter just because I don't value the opinions of a group of people who physically assault people. Do you really truly believe I only care about the opinions of upper class leftist scholars, or did you just say that because it sounds clever?