Officer caught on video slamming student against the floor and dragging them across the room - Polidicks

She's no different from any other sovereign citizen you guys probably have seen. The cop used whatever necessary force to get it over with quickly and pretty much quietly. The girl will learn from this as most kids do.

[QUOTE=awcmon;48998426]how is 'highschooler' analogous with 'black' highschoolers in general regardless of race are known (stereotyped if ya wanna be nitpicky) to be dumbasses if the girl was white or martian or some shit im sure he wouldve said the same exact thing you managed to make a race-related issue where there was none[/QUOTE] I didn't "make a race-related issue." I used [a group of people] to make it a little more obvious how ridiculous it is to make generalizations about [another group of people]. Do I need to dumb it down even further, or do you finally get it?

[QUOTE=Apache249;48998403]Yeah, we'll just send her to the discipline office. Oh wait, she isn't going. Guess we better just give up, then. [/QUOTE] She's not going, looks like I better commit assault but it's ok because I'm a cop law doesn't apply the same to me

[QUOTE=AWarmMoose;48998435]She's no different from any other sovereign citizen you guys probably have seen. The cop used whatever necessary force to get it over with quickly and pretty much quietly. The girl will learn from this as most kids do.[/QUOTE] Are you actually comparing a legally responsible adult refusing to comply repeatedly to an officer's simple directions to a teenager refusing to comply once to an order that wasn't even shown in the video

[QUOTE=zakedodead;48998442]She's not going, looks like I better commit assault but it's ok because I'm a cop law doesn't apply the same to me[/QUOTE] Well they don't. Cops have powers to arrest that other people don't. [editline]27th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ganerumo;48998448]Are you actually comparing a legally responsible adult refusing to comply repeatedly to an officer's simple directions to a teenager refusing to comply once to an order that wasn't even shown in the video[/QUOTE] Are you actually suggesting that teens are "legally responsible"?

[QUOTE=Apache249;48998436]I didn't "make a race-related issue." I used [a group of people] to make it a little more obvious how ridiculous it is to make generalizations about [another group of people]. Do I need to dumb it down even further, or do you finally get it?[/QUOTE] wish the bad reading rating still existed so i could receive it my bad

[QUOTE=Ricenchicken;48998401]Student in the classroom was talking about it earlier today on twitter. Posted his ID to the school on twitter if you have any thoughts that he wasn't there.[/QUOTE] Damn, at first I thought "wow why is everyone getting so uppity without knowing the context" and then I saw this. I mean, the amount of force used was way too much regardless, but I could have maybe understood if she had been there for 20 minutes just stonewalling this dude (it's really hard to get someone out of those kinds of desks if they don't want to) and had just spat in the dude's face or something.

[QUOTE=Fort83;48998457]Why do people like you always say these people are "kids" or "a child" as a way to get sympathy to excuse their actions? Every time I have seen a black person shot by police, everyone is going on about how they killed a child, yet they turn out to be 18+ years old.[/QUOTE] it's not a grab at sympathy??? seeing it that way is actually really sad, i'm literally saying this is a kid being attacked by a man with 20+ years on her for doing kid-like things. you keep thinking my wording is emotion grabbing but im just saying what the situation is? there is no excuse for her actions yet that somehow excuses the police officer's?

[QUOTE=Eeshton;48998479]it's not a grab at sympathy??? seeing it that way is actually really sad, i'm literally saying this is a kid being attacked by a man with 20+ years on her for doing kid-like things. you keep thinking my wording is emotion grabbing but im just saying what the situation is?[/QUOTE] Don't deny that different words have different connotations. Calling them "high school children" doesn't evoke the same image as calling them "high school teens" or even just "high school students." You could claim otherwise, but you'd be lying.

fuck yeah, now's my chance to use all my sick wwe wrestling moves on this 60 kg teenage girl while everybody else in the classroom is literally too afraid to say anything because I just tossed a teenager across the room like a ragdoll

[QUOTE=Apache249;48998492]Don't deny that different words have different connotations. Calling them "high school children" doesn't evoke the same image as calling them "high school teens" or even just "high school students." You could claim otherwise, but you'd be lying.[/QUOTE] lol who even cares what a dumb thing to argue about

i had read the cop had a history of using unnecessary force but i can't remember where i read that but i'm leaning towards "facebook comment" so take it with a grain of salt. picking her up would've been justified but tossing her like a crash test dummy is severely fucked up

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;48998512]lol who even cares what a dumb thing to argue about[/QUOTE] At least two people, if we're talking about it, but thanks for insight.

[QUOTE=Apache249;48998492]Don't deny that different words have different connotations. Calling them "high school children" doesn't evoke the same image as calling them "high school teens" or even just "high school students." You could claim otherwise, but you'd be lying.[/QUOTE] will you please stop worrying about how i word somethin on a forum and look at what im actually sayin. jesus this strawman's argument hurts. that officer used excessive force and the fact that she is a high school student of age 15-18 excuses her from being [B]assaulted by a police officer for not following the teacher's instruction[/B] and if you can honestly disagree with that, go ahead. no amount of different connotations on my words will create human compassion where there is none lol if she spat in his face, was assaulting other students, doing something to impeach upon other people's rights enough to warrant a quick, forceful reaction, then maybe that force was needed. but there was none of that.

I think the ability to get physical (yes with high school students) shouldn't necessarily always be considered excessive force. However, the amount of force used in the video was definitely excessive, they pretty much went limp being pulled from the chair showing little signs of resistance. It's fairly obvious this could have been done in a far less brute-force manner than having to flip them over and wrench them from their seat.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48998513]i had read the cop had a history of using unnecessary force but i can't remember where i read that but i'm leaning towards "facebook comment" so take it with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE] I saw them say that on the CBS Evening News. [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] like 3 other cases over the years of excessive force.

Wow guys lets use facebook and twitter as our "reliable" sources

[QUOTE=Eeshton;48998335]so you're telling me the only way a cop can do his job without the use of... "reasoning" is to pick this high school student by the neck and thigh and flip her to the ground and cuff her. a high school student was capable of putting up enough resistance to 2 grown men in a 10x10 classroom, that it warranted the amount of force used in this video, this is what you are saying.[/QUOTE] [quote]Many expressed shock at the force used, while others noted the girl was not complying with the officer's demands.[/quote] From [url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/26/us/south-carolina-spring-valley-high-school-student-video/[/url] [quote]A male student at Spring Valley told NBC News that the girl had ignored requests by the teacher to go to a "discipline office." The officer then entered the classroom and asked if she would go on her own or if he had to make her, according to the student. When the student refused to leave, Lott told NBC affiliate WIS earlier Monday, the officer "was requested to take action." She was told that she was under arrest, but again refused to leave the classroom, Lott told the station. "The video then shows the student resisting and being arrested."[/quote] From [url]http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-appears-show-cop-body-slamming-student-s-c-classroom-n451896?cid=sm_fb[/url] [quote] [b]However, a third video from Instagram shows Fields try and pick the female student out of her desk, but the student then hits the officer while he brings the desk to the ground.[/b] The person who posted the Instagram video says the student was initially asked to leave the class for telling the teacher that she would not put away her phone. The poster says the teacher disciplined the student with a write-up for being disrespectful and disobedient. After being asked to leave again, and her refusing, an administrator came to remove her, she refused, and that is when the SRO was called in. The poster of this video claims when Fields got to the classroom, he asked her to get up from her desk 4 or 5 times and again, she tells him no. After moving objects from around the student, and asking again to leave the classroom, and her refusing, that is where you see the officer getting physical.[/quote] From (with aforementioned video): [url]http://www.wistv.com/story/30353999/video-shows-confrontation-between-spring-valley-student-and-school-resource-officer[/url] Also, there was only one cop there. The other person I believe was the teacher who should not be expected or required to asset in arresting someone. In short, the [b]student assaulted the officer who was attempting to arrest them[/b] (you can see this in the video at this link: [url]http://www.wistv.com/clip/11952640/raw-video-instagram-video-of-incident-at-spring-valley-high-school?clienttype=generic[/url]) after which the officer flipped the student and their desk over. Further, it appears the student was given several opportunities to leave, first by the teacher then by the officer, according to the above sources. But no, good work jumping to conclusions because of one 10 second clip from a cell phone.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;48998526]I think the ability to get physical (yes with high school students) shouldn't necessarily always be considered excessive force. However, the amount of force used in the video was definitely excessive, they pretty much went limp being pulled from the chair showing little signs of resistance. It's fairly obvious this could have been done in a far less brute-force manner than having to flip them over and wrench them from their seat.[/QUOTE] when i moved to public schools, the football coaches (and school officer) were in charge of handling "fights" and the way they did this was by tackling both participants and holding them until others can come and help secure and make sure everyone's ok etc. it worked well because once they tackled them, that was it, stayed on the ground, and the kids didn't fight it cuz they knew they fucked up, they were just caught at that point.

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48998311]A cop throws a teenager around like a ragdoll and ya'll say she deserved it lmao facepunch never change[/QUOTE] It came out that she actually punched the officer once, which is why the class is deathly quiet rather than being in an uproar over any excessive use of force. Assaulting an officer and resisting means they're going to have to use force, what people expect, the police to say Okay have a good day because someone says no? The teacher told her to go to the office, she refused. The teacher called someone to get her to leave the class, she refused. The school can't deal with it so they call a police officer to do it, she refused and punches him. So she got her ass jerked out of the desk and removed by force. This is what police work looks like, and the general public can't really stomach it. But now that there's cameras everywhere they get to see more and more of it and everyone's coming down on law enforcement. And the media loves to stir it up the most. They played this clip 50+ times in 3 hours today, and then they talked about that special forces soldier who went to Iraq 14 times and DIED during a raid rescuing 70 people from ISIS for 3 seconds before going right back to this clip. So fuck the media, too

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48998574]It came out that she actually punched the officer once, which is why the class is deathly quiet rather than being in an uproar over any excessive use of force. Assaulting an officer and resisting means they're going to have to use force, what people expect, the police to say Okay have a good day because someone says no? The teacher told her to go to the office, she refused. The teacher called someone to get her to leave the class, she refused. The school can't deal with it so they call a police officer to do it, she refused and punches him. So she got her ass jerked out of the desk and removed by force. This is what police work looks like, stop being so soft[/QUOTE] Sure you're quoting the right guy there?

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48998311]A cop throws a teenager around like a ragdoll and ya'll say she deserved it lmao facepunch never change[/QUOTE] Liberal Most police policies have a "ask, tell, make" policy. If she didn't want to get up something bad was bound to happen anyways. I'll put money he'll within policy and not in trouble.

I'd let the cop off the hook. Maybe he was rough, but the student had plenty of opportunity to comply. By not complying, she escalated the problem.

[QUOTE=valkery;48998582]Sure you're quoting the right guy there?[/QUOTE] Shit you're right

[QUOTE=Eeshton;48998566]when i moved to public schools, the football coaches (and school officer) were in charge of handling "fights" and the way they did this was by tackling both participants and holding them until others can come and help secure and make sure everyone's ok etc. it worked well because once they tackled them, that was it, stayed on the ground, and the kids didn't fight it cuz they knew they fucked up, they were just caught at that point.[/QUOTE] So wait, somehow a grown-ass man tackling a person is okay, but a grown-ass man doing something equivalent to someone else is to be condemned? What?

[QUOTE=HAKKAR!!!;48998497]fuck yeah, now's my chance to use all my sick wwe wrestling moves on this 60 kg teenage girl while everybody else in the classroom is literally too afraid to say anything because I just tossed a teenager across the room like a ragdoll[/QUOTE] they're also afraid because cops are known to fucking murder people for no real reason

[QUOTE=TheTalon;48998574][B]It came out that she actually punched the officer once[/B], which is why the class is deathly quiet rather than being in an uproar over any excessive use of force. Assaulting an officer and resisting means they're going to have to use force, what people expect, the police to say Okay have a good day because someone says no? The teacher told her to go to the office, she refused. The teacher called someone to get her to leave the class, she refused. The school can't deal with it so they call a police officer to do it, she refused and punches him. So she got her ass jerked out of the desk and removed by force. This is what police work looks like, and the general public can't really stomach it. But now that there's cameras everywhere they get to see more and more of it and everyone's coming down on law enforcement. And the media loves to stir it up the most. They played this clip 50+ times in 3 hours today, and then they talked about that special forces soldier who went to Iraq 14 times and DIED during a raid rescuing 70 people from ISIS for 3 seconds before going right back to this clip. So fuck the media, too[/QUOTE] Definitely need a source for this

[QUOTE=Mister B;48998611]Definitely need a source for this[/QUOTE] Read the thread. Post #51.

[QUOTE=Keychain;48998616]Read the thread. Post #51.[/QUOTE] Actually, as much as I want this to be accurate, she only started hitting him after he had grabbed her neck and started to flip her. It's in the video.

[QUOTE=valkery;48998625]Actually, as much as I want this to be accurate, she only started hitting him after he had grabbed her neck and started to flip her. It's in the video.[/QUOTE] Yeah I know, just saying that's where people seem to be getting their info from.