Officer caught on video slamming student against the floor and dragging them across the room - Polidicks

[QUOTE=MasterKade;49000383]"It's not the dog's fault its owner let it loose on that little girl"[/QUOTE] Not when the dog is trained to bite whatever the owner tells him to bite.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000429]what happened to respecting authority and complying with an officer instead of refusing and resisting lmao[/QUOTE] wow it's like people have the right to stand up for themselves

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000429]what happened to respecting authority and complying with an officer instead of refusing and resisting lmao[/QUOTE] She's a fucking teenager. Even if it was a traffic stop, and the teenager said "Screw you I'm not getting out of the car", another cop wouldn't smash her window rip her out of the car and throw her on the ground. School fucked up, but I wouldn't expect any better from the terrible public schools in the USA

imagine how bad the world would be if one officer could come in anywhere he wanted and shut down everything because you are obliged to comply to whatever he says

i'm not sure how anyone can justify and defend the police officer's actions here, it's clearly unnecessary use of force

[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49000376]Shitty video but it's the original with no censorship. It still makes it hard to see what's going on except from that view it looks like the officer grabbed her and not her taking a swing. The NBC video shows a different view where it looks like she took a swing and failed. It's really hard to tell.[/QUOTE] no it really doesn't she only flails her arms when he starts grabbing and it's not even an issue since nobody in the room not even the teacher thinks so

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49000422]Not when the dog is trained to bite whatever the owner tells him to bite.[/QUOTE] The only Police Academy where they train you to throw children across the room is the one with Michael Winslow. Furthermore, even if it were police SOP to pick up a kid by the head and slam her to the ground for disobeying you, how or why would you not think that troubling?

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;49000439]wow it's like people have the right to stand up for themselves[/QUOTE] There's 2 kind of cops: Lawful and Unlawful. If you're standing up to a lawful cop you're in the wrong, if you're standing up to an unlawful cop you're gonna get your shit pushed in. It's not smart to stand up for yourself in either of these positions.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49000158]"Justified" police brutality applied to child-rearing: toddler refusing to eat her veggies? Pick her up by the throat and fling her out the fucking window for not respecting your goddamn authority.[/QUOTE] [img]http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/177431_700b.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49000470]There's 2 kind of cops: Lawful and Unlawful. If you're standing up to a lawful cop you're in the wrong, if you're standing up to an unlawful cop you're gonna get your shit pushed in. It's not smart to stand up for yourself in either of these positions.[/QUOTE] Do you not see the problem with [I]Unlawful Cops?[/I] Is that not antithetical to the entire damn point of police officers in your mind? Real life is not an action movie. Cops do not have free reign to dispense justice with extreme prejudice. That is psychopathic.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49000481]Do you not see the problem with [I]Unlawful Cops?[/I] Is that not antithetical to the entire damn point of police officers in your mind?[/QUOTE] Go ahead and stand up to an unlawful cop all you want. You just gonna get your shit pushed in. They can only stop the cop AFTER you've been wronged.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000487]lol so you think people can just so no to a cop's orders and when told they are under arrest and the cop should just go "well I guess i can't arrest her now she said no."[/QUOTE] the idea that an officer is always right and can do whatever he wants to you is kinda scary

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000502]Except I never said that officers are always right and can do whatever they want, why are you being intentionally dishonest?[/QUOTE] you mean the same way you put words in my mouth in the post I quoted above? you and I probably have the same answer to that question, isn't it funny

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49000493]Go ahead and stand up to an unlawful cop all you want. You just gonna get your shit pushed in. They can only stop the cop AFTER you've been wronged.[/QUOTE] I'm sitting in amused silence at your gleeful endorsement of blaming the victims of police brutality for the actions of the short tempered officers who decide to brutalize them. That's what this is at this point: straight up, unapologetic victim blaming. It's literally the exact line of logic that rape apologists use to condemn sexual assault victims for dressing provocatively or drinking too much. How can you not see the error in what it is you are saying?

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000522]Except my post was more of a question you didn't answer while yours was a statement.[/QUOTE] Whatever it is, a grown man manhandling a teenage girl for refusing to leave a room isn't the right thing to do And I'm sorry if you think I'm in the wrong but I just can't see any way of this being justifiable.

that maneuver was DANGEROUS. She could easily have suffered a serious spinal injury, for that reason alone, the cop is far more in the wrong.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000547]The officer asked her to leave multiple times and she refused, he also stated she was under arrest but she still refused to go. What is the officer supposed to do in your eyes when someone they've told is under arrest but doesn't comply? Honest question.[/QUOTE] Why the heck was an arrest necessary in the first place...

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000547]The officer asked her to leave multiple times and she refused, he also stated she was under arrest but she still refused to go. What is the officer supposed to do in your eyes when someone they've told is under arrest but doesn't comply?[/QUOTE] wait it out? talk to her? call for another officer so that if you do have to move her, you don't wind up powerbombing her out of the desk, tossing her across the room by her shirt and nearly into a wall, and escalating the situation massively so that she very well could resist violently? it's a pouty teenager dude, most parents have dealt with worse.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000547]The officer asked her to leave multiple times and she refused, he also stated she was under arrest but she still refused to go. What is the officer supposed to do in your eyes when someone they've told is under arrest but doesn't comply? Honest question.[/QUOTE] I'm not American nor do I know what kind of things are taught to officers there but I suppose going physical is the last thing they should do. Given the context, it's a stubborn teen refusing to leave the room, perhaps warning her of the consequences and calling her guardians would be the right thing to do. I highly doubt someone being told their score is going to be penalized and that they might be suspended or expelled plus parents being involved will resist any longer.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000643]You don't really need an officer to do any of that. I think the teacher or administration would be the more appropriate person/people to handle that type of thing. Then that brings up the question should the officer have even been called in the first place. Hard to talk to her when she is not complying with anyone, teacher included. I also don't see how he was powerbombing her. Watching the video I see him trying to lift her out of the desk by her arm and leg. Her left leg gets caught on the desk while he is lifting her and the whole thing tips over.[/QUOTE] So if she's not complying with anyone, let her sit there in silence while you talk to the principal, her parents and figure out some standard school punishment? Why was it so urgently necessary for her to leave the room that a police officer had to use potentially dangerous force?

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000695]That would be up to the teacher and principal to let the girl sit there. The guy is a resource officer, it might be different in the States but when I was in high school the resource officers typically only do anything at the request of the teachers and staff. The teacher requested the officer to remove her, as the article states the officer "was requested to take action".[/QUOTE] Are resource officers supposed to just blindly abide any request? Did they ask him to use excessive force? How is it okay that he didn't stop and think "hmmm, maybe manhandling this schoolgirl for refusing to leave the room isn't an appropriate course of action"? [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] Again I'll ask: Why was it so urgently necessary for her to leave the room that a police officer had to use potentially dangerous force?

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;49000512]I'm sitting in amused silence at your gleeful endorsement of blaming the victims of police brutality for the actions of the short tempered officers who decide to brutalize them. That's what this is at this point: straight up, unapologetic victim blaming. It's literally the exact line of logic that rape apologists use to condemn sexual assault victims for dressing provocatively or drinking too much. How can you not see the error in what it is you are saying?[/QUOTE] So you're OK with get your shit pushed in as long as you know you are right? Because that's what's going to happen. I'm not defending cops that make unlawful use of force. But you should know that standing up to a cop is a bad idea and you should be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.

[QUOTE=Ragekipz;49000730]So you're OK with get your shit pushed in as long as you know you are right? Because that's what's going to happen. I'm not defending cops that make unlawful use of force. But you should know that standing up to a cop is a bad idea and you should be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.[/QUOTE] So we're in agreement then; the cop was in the wrong

[QUOTE=proboardslol;49000736]So we're in agreement then; the cop was in the wrong[/QUOTE] I don't think he ever said otherwise, but that didn't stop BDA from getting a self-righteousness boner over calling Ragekipz a victim-blaming rape apologist. Right or wrong, it's a really bad idea to fight back against a cop which is what Gwoodman is suggesting.

[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48998311]A cop throws a teenager around like a ragdoll and ya'll say she deserved it lmao facepunch never change[/QUOTE] Lol yup and she should waste our tax dollars negotiations with some tough little bitch? Anyone bringing race into this is a full blown instigating shit eater

I don't know what is more disgusting, the teacher and officers actions or the fact that so many people condone this. So your student is acting up and not leaving the class, why not talk to her, call the principle, or call parents? Does the US not have some kind of social support system in place to deal with students who are clearly having a hard time with school? Nah lets just try out a dangerous wrestling move on her, and drag her out the class, give her a criminal record and ruin her life. Sure that's great support!

I'm more curious why the class was dead silent for the most part when he did it and barely reacted. Isn't that a sign that some things happened before that we don't see and might have led to class to not object what happened. Ofcourse the counter arguement I expect is, "Children are terrified by the behavior/police brutality" but we all know people are not silent typically in America when recording police.

I've never quite understood why you wouldn't just listen to the cop. Even if they are in the wrong you're just fucking yourself over legally by not doing what they say. With people recording things all the time it wouldn't be hard to get something a lawyer could use now anyways. I'm just glad I live in canada I've been shit tanked and the cops that stop me are just like get home safe enjoy your night.

[QUOTE=Fort83;49000748]He then had to move up to physically removing her.[/QUOTE] No he didn't? Nobody was in danger, nothing bad would have come from not force arresting her.

[QUOTE=leontodd;49000801]I don't know what is more disgusting, the teacher and officers actions or the fact that so many people condone this. So your student is acting up and not leaving the class, why not talk to her, call the principle, or call parents? Does the US not have some kind of social support system in place to deal with students who are clearly having a hard time with school? Nah lets just try out a dangerous wrestling move on her, and drag her out the class, give her a criminal record and ruin her life. Sure that's great support![/QUOTE] They already talked to her, and the asked her multiple times to leave the classroom. If she is hell-bent on staying put, what do you do? Stop class for the rest of the students because one girl is misbehaving? There's no answer to this that's easy to stomach. The teachers can't get physical because of liability and legal reasons, so the only people that have jurisdiction to physically remove the kid from class are police officers. We don't have a full video of what happened, and I'm not going to exonerate or condemn an officer based on ten seconds of grainy out of context footage, but the officer removing the child was really the only way this could have been resolved. As for the excessive force narrative, we need to establish whether the student assaulted the officer or not. There are varying accounts of what happened, so I think the safest bet is to wait for more information to come out before making a final judgement. [editline]28th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;49000838]No he didn't? Nobody was in danger, nothing bad would have come from not force arresting her.[/QUOTE] Yes, except for the disruption of the entire class session for the rest of the pupils due to this one students' misbehavior.