About 170 Duncanville High students sent home over dress code - Polidicks

[QUOTE=TheTalon;44834886]Zero tolerance means no exceptions![/QUOTE] if this ever happens in real life, all the kid or the kid's parent needs to say is "ada violation" you dont even have to know what it means just say it, it's like a magic bullet

[QUOTE=Cmx;44834066]What is so bad about a gray sweatshirt?[/QUOTE] There's nothing bad or wrong about a gray sweatshirt, the problem is Zero Tolerance and its rabid enforcement.

[QUOTE=BANNED USER;44837259]There's nothing bad or wrong about a gray sweatshirt, the problem is Zero Tolerance and its rabid enforcement.[/QUOTE] To take this further, it demonstrates the wildly inappropriate priorities of school faculty in American schools.

aw man my highschool was like this, if your shirt wasn't tucked in properly, as in it was tucked in but it folded out, that was a detention. If your pant legs at all folded on top of your shoes, detention. Zero tolerance is probably one of the worst things to happen to the already embarrassment of a school system we have over here.

mmm mmm damn that's a [I]fine ass shoulder[/I] TBH I have no respect for dress codes anymore. I don't even wear my ID to school anymore.

[QUOTE=Angus725;44834151]Private schools generally have quite strict dress codes, not too surprised at theirs. Suspending 170 students at once though, is odd.[/QUOTE] Yep. I used to have a uniform and if anyone had one piece wrong with it they were sent straight home. Even if you were missing a tie or the uniform hat, back home you go.

Dress codes are dumb I went to a school where you were free to wear whatever the fuck you want so long it didn't offend anyone

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44837188]unpopular opinion time: i secretly didn't mind the uniforms in high school because i didnt want to have to worry about maintaining a wardrobe, just one less thing to think about every damn day.[/QUOTE] Yeah I agree. Uniforms can be bullshit, but Polo Ts and Khaki Pants I tottaly did not mind one bit.

This shit would never happen at my old high school because the faculty actually give a damn about the students. Also the student body has some input on the way the school is run, and I am certain it would not support a strict dress code.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44834612]School dress codes/uniforms are the dumbest thing. Who gives a shit what you wear, you're there to learn, not dress for success or what the fuck ever. They always use the excuse "This is what you gotta do when you're older, we're preparing you!!" Preparing us to be mindless zombies who do whatever the authority says, no questions asked.[/QUOTE] Public schools recieve federal funding and are regulated by the government, effectively making them state-owned. The quality of education at said schools is abysmal even in the better schools, and declines further each passing year, leading to progressively dumber generations of children completely unfit to demonstrate critical thinking or independent thought. Dumb kids grow into dumb citizens. Dumb citizens = complacent citizens who won't even bat an eyelash at rich electronic old men running the human race into the ground as long as their smartphones and endless internets are being streamed 24/7 into their faces. Hmmm. I might be onto something here.

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;44834056]I've heard of being sent home for not bringing or wearing your ID (students over here are treated very much like cattle), but wearing a sweatshirt was against their dress code? Just save themselves the trouble and enact a standard school uniform.[/QUOTE] How does being made to wear ID equate to being treated like cattle? It's a perfectly normal way of making sure that the only people wandering about are people who should be wandering about.

Most american schools feel like mini totalitarian states, especially with the zero-tolerance shit

[QUOTE=RudeMcRude;44837770]Dress codes are dumb I went to a school where you were free to wear whatever the fuck you want so long it didn't offend anyone[/QUOTE] At my last school, you would be sent out of assemblies for wearing: Jeans other than black or grey ones. Any jumper/jacket with a logo other than the school one, and that was any color other than red or black. (They were more lenient on this during winter though.) Shirts other than the school one or plain white ones unless you had a note saying you had no other shirts to wear. Leggings without a skirt/shorts. It wasn't really enforced too much or anything except during those assemblies, where teachers had to make kids stand up infront of everyone, then get sent aside to be told to stop it or for multiple offenders they sent notes home, sometimes sent the kid home to change or were suspended for really bad offenders.

[QUOTE=gk99;44837577]mmm mmm damn that's a [I]fine ass shoulder[/I] TBH I have no respect for dress codes anymore. I don't even wear my ID to school anymore.[/QUOTE] I've not even had an ID card for the past year and a half, despite it being the rules here. I like to live life dangerously

[QUOTE=James xX;44839809]I've not even had an ID card for the past year and a half, despite it being the rules here. I like to live life dangerously[/QUOTE] I have been hearing about ID's a lot lately. I never had a ID of any sort k-12. And the idea of having a ID or a tag just makes me uneasy... Most teachers / staff knows you by name and when you want lunch, you just say your student pupil number.

I misread the title as 170 students set on fire

My high school embraced a school uniform when I was halfway through it. They were relaxed about it, probably because it was new. After I left, I heard stories of them starting to get nazi-tyrannical about enforcing it but then a number of parents started to protest the school sending their kids home just because of a missing belt or an untucked shirt and the school let up on it's enforcement. Seriously, it just took a handful of parents complaining to change. Why is this school district being such dicks about it?

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44837156]Not just "gang" issues, but also issues with bullying. By having kids all wear the same thing, you're less likely to run into kids teasing others for not having name brands or the newest fashion. and that's not to mention school uniforms are usually so unflattering that you don't have a hormonal teenager being distracted by sally big chest sitting next to him. It gives kids less things to distract them from learning.[/QUOTE] Yes that would be a neat way to rationalize it if those things were actual problems but they're not.

[QUOTE=Swiket;44834216]This is the same school btw: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsTXtowZVQ[/media][/QUOTE] How to hell is this school still functioning :v:?

[QUOTE=Minimal;44840328]I have been hearing about ID's a lot lately. I never had a ID of any sort k-12. And the idea of having a ID or a tag just makes me uneasy... Most teachers / staff knows you by name and when you want lunch, you just say your student pupil number.[/QUOTE] I mean the only real use for it is the printers, for logging on quickly, and even then I can still login by entering my password manually anyway. Above all, I think that there isn't any real use for it, because you can get student discounts with an ISU card instead.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;44837156]Not just "gang" issues, but also issues with bullying. By having kids all wear the same thing, you're less likely to run into kids teasing others for not having name brands or the newest fashion. and that's not to mention school uniforms are usually so unflattering that you don't have a hormonal teenager being distracted by sally big chest sitting next to him. It gives kids less things to distract them from learning.[/QUOTE] Trust me, if kids want to bully each other over these things, they will even in the case of a strict dress code. There's ample things here and there were you can easily get vicious and be in the confines of the dress code. Honestly school uniforms or a strict dress code tend to only play a role in very poor places where the difference between a few taters and actual clothing is huge from a social standing. [QUOTE=James xX;44841526]I mean the only real use for it is the printers, for logging on quickly, and even then I can still login by entering my password manually anyway. Above all, I think that there isn't any real use for it, because you can get student discounts with an ISU card instead.[/QUOTE] Over here you get ISICs (your equivalent of the ISU) and it's less used as an ID as more of a chip card for lunches, passwords, libraries etc etc etc

[QUOTE=Sherow_Xx;44840711]Yes that would be a neat way to rationalize it if those things were actual problems but they're not.[/QUOTE] Awww, that's cute. You think you know what you're talking about. I was in school during an implementation of a strict dress code. Yes, teasing and bullying was a large problem for poorer kids who couldn't afford the best clothes. And once the dress code was implemented, that went away. Just because you may not see the problems doesn't mean they don't exist.

[QUOTE=Cold;44834084]When you come from a country, where no schools(hs/college/uni) have dress-codes, school uniforms or ID's, this sounds very fucked up.[/QUOTE] But some high schools in GB do have dress codes

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44834612]School dress codes/uniforms are the dumbest thing. Who gives a shit what you wear, you're there to learn, not dress for success or what the fuck ever. They always use the excuse "This is what you gotta do when you're older, we're preparing you!!" Preparing us to be mindless zombies who do whatever the authority says, no questions asked.[/QUOTE] The studies I read showed that dress codes were generally positive on the student body. There were fewer cliques, so people intermixed more, which led to fewer crimes in school, which aided academic success. And based on my own experience with school dress codes, that seems reasonable. I didn't see any study of student happiness/satisfaction, unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Cold;44834084]When you come from a country, where no schools(hs/college/uni) have dress-codes, school uniforms or ID's, this sounds very fucked up.[/QUOTE] Huh. My school and most in the area have both uniforms and id cards. I never understood the purpose of the former, all it seems to achieve is something for the faculty to nag students about. I nearly got put in iso once for wearing long sleeves under my polo, it's a bloody joke. As far as I can tell, schools are becoming more and more draconian, especially in the US. Wouldn't be fucking surprised if corporal punishment made a comeback [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Rubs10;44845220]The studies I read showed that dress codes were generally positive on the student body. There were fewer cliques, so people intermixed more, which led to fewer crimes in school, which aided academic success. And based on my own experience with school dress codes, that seems reasonable. I didn't see any study of student happiness/satisfaction, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]And where did you read this study? Sounds like a load of shit to me, but it's very familiar; those are the same reasons my school's administration gave for enforcing them. Cliques happen uniform or no. You know what, I could bet that kids would actually want to sit and fucking learn something if they weren't getting berated for petty bullshit 24/7, and the teachers would probably be less stressed from having to enforce rules this useless, and therefore actually more engaging when they're doing their job, you know, teaching

[QUOTE=wraithcat;44844612] Over here you get ISICs (your equivalent of the ISU) and it's less used as an ID as more of a chip card for lunches, passwords, libraries etc etc etc[/QUOTE] Whoops my bad, we use ISICs too.

I am basing this post on my experience at my school, and it may not be this way everywhere, but I noticed that my school was more focused on punishment than correction in almost every case of discipline I saw. Our school had what they called a ROY fest for the last 10 days of school where ROY means Rest Of Year suspension. They literally gave you that for any disceplinary action all the way down to be late for class once. The school had an incredibly oppressive feel to the daily routine. I'm not just saying that because High skool sux yo, I'm 23 now and I am just now realizing how bad it was there. I am extremely scared for the next generation of people who have to go through these schools. It used to be that we would call these policies stupid and go on but all of these stupid policies, and disenfranchised teachers and administrators have piled up to the point of collapse in many urban and suburban schools as well. Something really has to change when schools like mine have a 50% retention rate(freshman to graduation). It is more of a prison readiness program than a place of learning, hell we had an actual police station inside our school. This is getting a little long so I'll wrap it up, I went to an abomination of education for high school and I fear that it's similar everywhere, at least in urban schools like mine. I don't know what can be done about it but I feel a sense of urgency about the state of education in my country.

[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;44834060]I could understand it if they were wearing something skimpy or unflattering to school, but not wearing a properly-colored shirt or neglecting to put on a name tag? Get over yourselves, school district. Take that pole out of your ass.[/QUOTE] I'd turn that into a shirt, make about 200 and give it away in mass lets see how they like that [editline]19th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Swiket;44834216]This is the same school btw: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsTXtowZVQ[/media][/QUOTE] the way this guy talks and moves is somehow so crazy interesting :v: he's just giving out constant flawless zingers like nothing

I was lucky to go to a school that seemed to have brains. I once straight up called a teacher an idiot (for putting test answers on the back of the test so we could selfmark), and all that happened was that I got told not to pull shit like that again, and [I]he[/I] got told to clean his act up. The only time I ever heard of expulsions were possession of cannabis and a knife (separate occasions), and I can't even think of any suspensions.

I think I was really lucky with the college I've in in these past 2 years. The teachers give up as much time as possible to help students, even if they don't get paid extra, and the resources are great. I think the only downside is the massive bias towards Catholicism. The example that comes to mind would be, when we were talking about a just war, they said that the Catholics came up with the idea despite saying but seconds before that a lot of older religions thought of it way earlier.