Breaking: Amazon has officially purchased Twitch for $970M
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[editline]25th August 2014[/editline]
oh max you ninja[/QUOTE]
Yours is better
[QUOTE=robotman5;45797177]Better then Google buying it.[/QUOTE]
Or Facebook.
good twitch can use some of those beefy servers amazon owns
Well, Amazon is [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com_controversies#Treatment_of_workers"]literally[/URL] the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com_controversies#Opposition_to_trade_unions"]shittiest[/URL] [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/may/04/amazon-seasonal-work-homeless-jobs-unemployment"]company[/URL] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/amazon-used-neonazi-guards-to-keep-immigrant-workforce-under-control-in-germany-8495843.html"]working[/URL] in the [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286227/Amazons-human-robots-Is-future-British-workplace.html"]first[/URL] [URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/amazoncoms-workers-are-low-paid-overworked-unhappy-new-employee-model-internet-age-1514780"]world[/URL], but I'd take it over Google in terms of its service and the way it would handle Twitch.
i can't wait for Amazon to remove the twitch app off android devices and make it only avalible on kindle/firetv/etc.
like Amazon Prime Instant Video
I Actually think that twitch is going to be better now when amazon buy's it. Because when google had it, they screw it up the first week. They removed the sound on past broadcasts if it was a song in there or something like that. I hope for a better twitch!
Twitch stated in their letter that they are staying independent. I doubt Amazon is going to do much to them.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;45797181]"even better twitch" excluding the 30 second delay I bet[/QUOTE]
Most of the delay is pretty much on purpose. A feature of HLS is having 4x 4 second buffers to keep working if you have network stutters. What's left is a few seconds for them transcoding it and your own connection
[QUOTE=DerpO_o;45797718]Twitch stated in their letter that they are staying independent. I doubt Amazon is going to do much to them.[/QUOTE]They said that about Comixology too, roughly five seconds before ripping the nice store functionality out of the iOS app over a pissing contest with Apple.
[QUOTE=Midas22;45797285]Nope they were just acting retarded without Google's help it seems.[/QUOTE]
A company trying to avoid being sued for copyright infringement is equivalent to a company "acting retarded." Good to know.
Forbes is [url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/08/25/amazon-pounces-on-twitch-after-google-balks-due-to-antitrust-concerns/]saying[/url] that Google backed down due to antitrust concerns and an inability to agree on a breakup fee if the deal was called off.
[QUOTE=DerpO_o;45797718]Twitch stated in their letter that they are staying independent. I doubt Amazon is going to do much to them.[/QUOTE]
I hope Amazon does do things like improve their infrastructure and minimize stream delay
[QUOTE=ThrasherPetro;45797713]I Actually think that twitch is going to be better now when amazon buy's it. Because when google had it, they screw it up the first week. They removed the sound on past broadcasts if it was a song in there or something like that. I hope for a better twitch![/QUOTE]
Google never bought twitch, it was just a rumor. The whole muting thing was made so they wouldn't get sued by record companies.
[QUOTE=demoTron;45797884]Google never bought twitch, it was just a rumor. The whole muting thing was made so they wouldn't get sued by record companies.[/QUOTE]
And the issue with the huge muting range was apparently an issue of the technology and backend twitch uses. Something like it saves it in 30minute chunks and audio is stored separately now. So they are going to be tightening that range.
I don't care who buys it, just as long as the 30 second delay is gone and justin.tv comes back.
Tbh none of the google hate was justified especially considering they never even bought twitch and I'd prefer they own it over amazon.
The only good I can see coming out of this is an actual solid competitor to google but other than that I can't imagine anything beneficial.
I did not expect this
[QUOTE=Twitch]your memes[/QUOTE]
good idea:
Gamer Pros who are partnered with twitch list the equipment they use on their stream, links to a amazon referral link that gives cuts of the sales that go through that link to the player who advertises them.
example:
Pro uses Keyboard > Pro links a referral url to keyboard in description of "stuff i use" > User Clicks on it and buys keyboard > some $$$ of sale goes to player for advertising on page
When they play a game, there's a amazon link that says "Buy it on amazon" or something near the "playing now" thing, same idea as above (if partnered).
questionable idea: Subscribers of that channel get a very minor discount on the thing he's saying he's using.
Well, i cant say I did see it coming. Though I cant really see anything particualrly bad coming from it.
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;45797737]Most of the delay is pretty much on purpose. A feature of HLS is having 4x 4 second buffers to keep working if you have network stutters. What's left is a few seconds for them transcoding it and your own connection[/QUOTE]
That accounts for 16 seconds, not sure where the other 45 seconds of delay comes from. If they aren't going to reduce the delay at least make it the fucking same for everyone so that chat isn't completely worthless to me when it cheers about things that happen 30 seconds later for me. Not to mention that the streams freeze constantly because their servers are complete shit.
[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;45797181]"even better twitch" excluding the 30 second delay I bet[/QUOTE]
Its only 10 now
Lmao @ all the people who yelled at me when I said that Google buying Twitch was just a rumor
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;45797737]Most of the delay is pretty much on purpose. A feature of HLS is having 4x 4 second buffers to keep working if you have network stutters. What's left is a few seconds for them transcoding it and your own connection[/QUOTE]
Exactly, I wish people would realise this.
Source quality obviously has no transcoding so that's why you get the smallest delay, but once you starting factoring in buffering, network translation, international server data transfers etc etc etc, there is simply no way to eliminate the delay entirely... this isn't Youtube.
I'm surprised by all of this, did Google actually BUY Twitch or was that deal never officially finalised? Such a sudden and unexpected change.
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gotta go at a 30 second delay
[QUOTE=The Kins;45797842]Forbes is [url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/08/25/amazon-pounces-on-twitch-after-google-balks-due-to-antitrust-concerns/]saying[/url] that Google backed down due to antitrust concerns and an inability to agree on a breakup fee if the deal was called off.[/QUOTE]
Funny that they are worried about antitrust concerns when we have media and food conglomerates with total control of their respective industries.
Bless our savior Amazon
i hope they remove muting system
[QUOTE=Wii60;45798831]good idea:
Gamer Pros who are partnered with twitch list the equipment they use on their stream, links to a amazon referral link that gives cuts of the sales that go through that link to the player who advertises them.
example:
Pro uses Keyboard > Pro links a referral url to keyboard in description of "stuff i use" > User Clicks on it and buys keyboard > some $$$ of sale goes to player for advertising on page
When they play a game, there's a amazon link that says "Buy it on amazon" or something near the "playing now" thing, same idea as above (if partnered).
questionable idea: Subscribers of that channel get a very minor discount on the thing he's saying he's using.[/QUOTE]
Terrible idea:
Forced advertisements every five minutes.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];45797645']Well, Amazon is [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com_controversies#Treatment_of_workers"]literally[/URL] the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com_controversies#Opposition_to_trade_unions"]shittiest[/URL] [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/may/04/amazon-seasonal-work-homeless-jobs-unemployment"]company[/URL] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/amazon-used-neonazi-guards-to-keep-immigrant-workforce-under-control-in-germany-8495843.html"]working[/URL] in the [URL="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2286227/Amazons-human-robots-Is-future-British-workplace.html"]first[/URL] [URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/amazoncoms-workers-are-low-paid-overworked-unhappy-new-employee-model-internet-age-1514780"]world[/URL], but I'd take it over Google in terms of its service and the way it would handle Twitch.[/QUOTE]
Thought very anti-employee, I haven't seen many anti-consumer actions from them.
[QUOTE=Sobek-;45800344]Exactly, I wish people would realise this.
Source quality obviously has no transcoding so that's why you get the smallest delay, but once you starting factoring in buffering, network translation, international server data transfers etc etc etc, there is simply no way to eliminate the delay entirely... this isn't Youtube.
I'm surprised by all of this, did Google actually BUY Twitch or was that deal never officially finalised? Such a sudden and unexpected change.[/QUOTE]
Other streaming services manage it. Twitch is bigger, have more resources and one would assume more capable engineers, it surprises me that they still haven't made the delay optional.
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