• Teenager Killed His Parents Because They Took His iPod Away
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[QUOTE=Fausty;44946092]I never said kill the kid. I am only saying he shouldn't be released into society. He's fucked. [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] stop your bullshitting tyvm[/QUOTE] lmao are you really trying to measure someone's psychological condition from a single article about a crime maybe we should wait for an actual psychological screening or some therapy before we decide to lock him up and throw away the key
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946002]If you honestly believe EVERYONE deserves a second chance, then you are fucking delusional.[/QUOTE] Jesus Christ believed in exactly this are you calling Jesus insane
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946092]I never said kill the kid. I am only saying he shouldn't be released into society. He's fucked. [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] stop your bullshitting tyvm[/QUOTE] Never? Are you saying you know for sure that what is wrong with him is 100% incurable and in 40 years he will definitely still be a significant risk to society. Or maybe we leave judgements like that up to someone who has actual intricate knowledge of the person rather than just giving up on a human being with a knee jerk reaction. Because they are just as human as you and they have feelings and motives and thoughts and sometimes it seems people like to forget this.
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;44946141]Jesus Christ believed in exactly this are you calling Jesus insane[/QUOTE] I love you :v: [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;44946147]Never? Are you saying you know for sure that what is wrong with him is 100% incurable and in 40 years he will definitely still be a significant risk to society. Or maybe we leave judgements like that up to someone who has actual intricate knowledge of the person rather than just giving up on a human being with a knee jerk reaction. Because they are just as human as you and they have feelings and motives and thoughts and sometimes it seems people like to forget this.[/QUOTE] Mental illnesses aren't cured. They are dealt with, with medicine. All it takes is for someone to stop taking the medicine for any reason (Justified or not) to relapse. It's dangerous.
[QUOTE=AJ10017;44945521]Hes the ripper obviously. But seriously this kid is fucking insane and needs to be locked away forever (or executed)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=AJ10017;44945586]Yes because the probability that you can reintegrate someone with an obvious mental condition that killed his own parents over [B]a damn ipod[/B] is high enough for him to not kill the guy that tows his car for parking in the wrong spot.[/QUOTE] because executing them is any fucking better really though good job with that [QUOTE=AJ10017;44945815]You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink. Its up to the kid to accept rehabilitation. But i find it hard to believe the judge and jury will be so gracious in this case to give him the option.[/QUOTE] So kill the horse instead?
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;44946141]Jesus Christ believed in exactly this are you calling Jesus insane[/QUOTE] Yes
[QUOTE=Butthurter;44946173]i dont think you know what pure evil is...[/QUOTE] Would be nice if you and Cructo would stop shitting all over the thread.
[QUOTE=J!NX;44946170]because executing them is any fucking better really though good job with that So kill the horse instead?[/QUOTE] i listed execution as an option not a definite fate :v: LWOP would be better suited for him
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946153]I love you :v: [editline]29th May 2014[/editline] Mental illnesses aren't cured. They are dealt with, with medicine. All it takes is for someone to stop taking the medicine for any reason (Justified or not) to relapse. It's dangerous.[/QUOTE] There's also therapy to help overcome issues he obviously has. And sure if you don't think you can safely release someone you don't. If he is a danger to society for the rest of his life, cool. But you really think you are in the place to make that judgement?
[QUOTE=AJ10017;44946193]i listed execution as an option not a definite fate :v: LWOP would be better suited for him[/QUOTE] worst is he should be integrated into a society of other people in his position AKA an asylum / rehab if only asylums weren't complete shit here however.
[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;44946205]There's also therapy to help overcome issues he obviosuly has. And sure if you don't think you can safely release someone you don't. If he is a danger to society for the rest of his life, cool. But you really think you are in the place to make that judgement?[/QUOTE] No, I am not. But neither is anyone else in the place to say he can be rehabilitated and released. Only time will tell after many tests.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946040]Human rights don't apply to monsters.[/QUOTE] I believe similar logic was once used to discard the notion that black people and similar "inferior" races had no rights too. If you can just strip the entitled rights of anyone you please because they discomfort you then the whole system may as well be scrapped because the most significant point of a universal human rights act is to make it clear that being human alone qualifies you to a set of rights.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946040]Human rights don't apply to monsters.[/QUOTE] Not true, UN Resolution 102 extended human rights to various monsters including trolls, chimera, and Caltiki.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946218]No, I am not. But neither is anyone else in the place to say he can be rehabilitated and released. Only time will tell after many tests.[/QUOTE] I never claimed I was, I simply objected to the many people who suggested they could way he was beyond all hope. [QUOTE]I never said kill the kid. I am only saying he shouldn't be released into society. He's fucked.[/QUOTE] Including this, unless I am reading it wrong, in which case I apologize, but it seems to be pretty final.
[QUOTE=Fausty;44946040]Human rights don't apply to monsters.[/QUOTE] wow those are some hot buzzwords pal you know what else they say about monsters? they don't fucking exist everyone is a human being and everyone deserves human rights
I always hate this [quote]Why an honor-roll student with no criminal record snapped so violently over such benign punishments is a mystery to his family.[/quote] Honor-roll does not automatically equal good and stable. How many people who have high end degrees commit illegal and unethical things. Just like bad grades don't automatically mean terrible person.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;44946288]wow those are some hot buzzwords pal you know what else they say about monsters? they don't fucking exist everyone is a human being and everyone deserves human rights[/QUOTE] Even a guy that would probably beat his ex to death for dumping him?
[QUOTE=Cructo;44945549]he needs to be rehabilitated and reintegrated into society[/QUOTE] Then pay for his treatment if you're such a bleeding heart about it.
[QUOTE=Cructo;44945954]everyone deserves a second chance please ditch your awful conservative views[/QUOTE] I'm pretty left wing myself but I honestly don't believe everyone deserves a second chance [editline]30th May 2014[/editline] Mass murderers or people like this fucking hero don't deserve a second chance, they need to be locked away for ever
My name is Vincent and I also dislike my mother, but I wouldn't fucking [B]kill[/B] her.
He just needs proper treatment and professional help, like Jesus some of you guys are way to eager to slam someone with the fucking DEATH penalty.
lmao @ facepunch posters think they know this kid inside an out because a news article are you guys for real? i guess i didn't realize just how fucking terrible most of you were. do you sit back and read what you write before you post or is it just serious mental diarrhea?
A possible case of intermittent explosive disorder? Somewhat similar is [URL="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/noah-crooks-boy-13-killed-1868899"]this[/URL] which happened awhile ago.
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;44947144]Even a guy that would probably beat his ex to death for dumping him?[/QUOTE] Well they are called [I]human[/I] rights. Killing someone else doesn't suddenly make you a fish or something, you still deserve to be treated as a human being. I'm surprised people are unironically suggesting the kid be executed or locked up forever.
[QUOTE=AJ10017;44945586]Yes because the probability that you can reintegrate someone with an obvious mental condition that killed his own parents over [B]a damn ipod[/B] is high enough for him to not kill the guy that tows his car for parking in the wrong spot.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but you don't have the qualifications to be the judge of that.
[QUOTE=JgcxCub;44945818]I am all but certain there is a LOT more to this than just random psychopathy i would not pass judgment unless I knew more about circumstances[/QUOTE] no, don't you understand?! i feel angry and upset, therefore i must cry for bloodshed and retribution against a person i have never met and only know anything about through a news article on a website! he must die or rot in prison! [QUOTE=Fausty;44946002]If you honestly believe EVERYONE deserves a second chance, then you are fucking delusional.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=wickedplayer494;44946016]Pricks like this kid don't deserve a place in society. I don't care for "rehabilitation" shit - lock him up forever or shoot the fucker.[/QUOTE] ignoring the psychological and circumstantial factors leading to violent crimes is one of the reasons that so many people will finish their prison sentences tonight feeling cold, empty, and alone; in three years time, they're very likely to either be locked in the same jail cell or hanging from the ceiling fan by a noose. does this child's actions compare to that of a gang-banger? of course not. but if you make exceptions for one, you open the door for exceptions for another. everyone does what they do for a reason. pretending that those reasons don't exist, just because you're angry about an injustice, is not going to make the world a better place; it's just another body on a mountain of corpses, another ward of the state being shuffled around in a world that would rather throw them away like trash and confirm all of their warped beliefs instead of attempting to [I]make a fucking difference[/I]. if it's such a moral outrage that this kid took away someone's life, someone's happiness, someone's basic human rights, then how is it at all justified to do the same fucking thing to them? what do you prove? what do you stand to gain from an ill person's suffering other than petty revenge for an act that you were never victim of in the first place? if you think that this person deserves to die, then what separates you from him other than the fact that part of society is on your side?
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;44947469]Well they are called [I]human[/I] rights. [B]Killing someone else doesn't suddenly make you a fish or something[/B], you still deserve to be treated as a human being. I'm surprised people are unironically suggesting the kid be executed or locked up forever.[/QUOTE] Yes, he's still a human and he has human rights; but doing something like this should at least have an impact on said rights. I'm not saying locking away forever or killing him is justifiable in the least, but committing an act of violence on this level should be met with equally permanent retribution. What punishment that will be is in others' hands, not mine. I have to admit though, I chuckled at that line :v:
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;44947469]Well they are called [I]human[/I] rights. Killing someone else doesn't suddenly make you a fish or something, you still deserve to be treated as a human being. I'm surprised people are unironically suggesting the kid be executed or locked up forever.[/QUOTE] if reintegration doesn't work you have to go with one of the two. But hopefully he does get the attention he needs. [QUOTE=Tomo Takino;44947469]Well they are called [I]human[/I] rights. Killing someone else doesn't suddenly make you a fish or something, you still deserve to be treated as a human being. I'm surprised people are unironically suggesting the kid be executed or locked up forever.[/QUOTE] But you do lose your rights if imprisoned. Though it definitely does not justify not treating prisoners as sub-humans.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;44945835]Clearly this is the result of a misputerist society. How entitled he is![/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/n1a9bbm.png[/img]
he obviously has a very strong trigger associated with the loss of musical devices i think he'd be fine in the world without any sort of treatment as long as no one takes away his ipod again or he sees the theft of a musical device, such as an ipod
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