• Army Helicopter Accidentally Drops Hellfire Missile Over Texas Homes
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"These homes remind me of Osama's compound".
[QUOTE=teh pirate;36008305]Probably a Cobra, they fly them all over the place down here. One came to our school for some Army related assembly a couple years ago, it was pretty baller.[/QUOTE] Cobra is marines not army I think
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;36010041]Cobra is marines not army I think[/QUOTE] You may be right - still, I've never seen Kiowas over here.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;36008305]Probably a Cobra, they fly them all over the place down here. One came to our school for some Army related assembly a couple years ago, it was pretty baller.[/QUOTE] Probably Apaches. We have tons of Guard Apaches here north of Houston. Honestly thought it was one of ours when I saw the thread title. I had just heard one fly over too not long before seeing this so I though just maybe...
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36006636]No shit? Imagine if it were live and it landed in a backyard full of children playing? The point is that even it were a training munition, it should not happen period. There should be a shitstorm about this. I mean I'd be pretty pissed if a large missile impaled the roof of my car and blew it up[/QUOTE] What if a meteor hit them?
[QUOTE=ThePinkPanzer;36007751]You should be banned for failure to read. [B]IT WAS NOT ARMED. THEY NEVER FLY ARMED VEHICLES OUT OF THE BASE.[/B][/QUOTE] There was an armed helicopter above my house the other day. I'll try to take pictures next time I see one.
[QUOTE=/dev/sda1;36011389]There was an armed helicopter above my house the other day. I'll try to take pictures next time I see one.[/QUOTE] They may fly around with what appears to be armament, but not really. We leave rocket pods and machine guns on the helicopters because otherwise we would have to find a place in the hangar to put it. Really, the armament you see on the helicopter is unloaded or inert. The only time they are armed is when they are conducting a gunnery. [editline]18th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=teh pirate;36010106]You may be right - still, I've never seen Kiowas over here.[/QUOTE] The Army has no Cobras. They are all in the Corps now. You don't see Kiowas because they do not have any where you are at. The Kiowas are not located in very many places.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;36007203]I am not sure you are completely aware of how the Army operates. Read up on Article 15 of the UCMJ.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I don't study on those kinds of articles and I am not versed in them. I simply stated that live ammunition or not, they should not be falling on people at all.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36011983]Sorry, I don't study on those kinds of articles and I am not versed in them. I simply stated that live ammunition or not, they should not be falling on people at all.[/QUOTE] Well shit just happens, and they try to prevent accidents like this the best they can.
At least it was a training round. I fear some of the shit from the helicopters flying from 29 Palms Marine Corps Air Ground Command Center is live sometimes. It's the largest Marine base in the world and they use it to great extent. When they bomb shit it sounds like thunder, to which local radio colloquially dubs the "sound of Freedom". They fucking rock my house.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36011983]Sorry, I don't study on those kinds of articles and I am not versed in them. I simply stated that live ammunition or not, they should not be falling on people at all.[/QUOTE] First, it is not a news or magazine article which I am feeling that is what you think they are, though I could be wrong about my assumption. They are military laws. Second, ignorance is no excuse. It would take a minute to see what an article 15 is. Third, these missiles are designed to fall on people, in excess of mach 1, followed by a large explosion. Fourth, I am not sure where in this article it said the missile fell on someone. I could have sworn that the dummy missile landed in a field. Fifth, mechanical problems do happen from time to time. They are impossible to avoid completely.
6th the chances of a plane dropping out of the sky and hitting your home are higher than this happening again, why the fuck aren't you telling airlines this astronomical chance shouldn't exist. ITT: worrying about dumb shit
Even if it [I]were[/I] a real missile, it still wouldn't have gone off if were it not armed. They wouldn't be very good weapons if they went off if the helicopter crashed or if it got shot at, now, would it? These aren't gunpowder bombs on rope fuses here.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;36002743]That's not the point guys. Had it been live and the coupling failed many people could have been hurt. Now just think of how many of these things are buzzing around all year round.[/QUOTE] Just because it falls and hits the ground, doesn't mean a live missile will explode. They're made so they don't unless they're armed and fired
tl;dr fp thinks that airsofting = military training
Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.
[QUOTE=ironman17;36021284]Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.[/QUOTE] Not if it wasn't armed.
[QUOTE=ironman17;36021284]Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.[/QUOTE] nah, the explosives used in the missiles require another explosive to dentonate them, and that explosive can only be detonated electrically, at least I think thats what happens
[QUOTE=ironman17;36021284]Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.[/QUOTE] Missiles do not arm unless the pilot has got a solid track on something and gives a command to fire.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;36002794]Seriously? In the UK I have birds whizzing past with live munitions all the time. Especially since there are several bombing ranges near to where I live - To the point they post signs telling you not to go near it because of unexploded ordnance. [/QUOTE] Yeah those pommie pigeons have some nasty diarrhea.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;36012319]First, it is not a news or magazine article which I am feeling that is what you think they are, though I could be wrong about my assumption. They are military laws. Second, ignorance is no excuse. It would take a minute to see what an article 15 is. Third, these missiles are designed to fall on people, in excess of mach 1, followed by a large explosion. Fourth, I am not sure where in this article it said the missile fell on someone. I could have sworn that the dummy missile landed in a field. Fifth, mechanical problems do happen from time to time. They are impossible to avoid completely.[/QUOTE] You're taking whatever I say way too literally. Still, you can't excuse munition falling out of supposedly safe and checked machines. To say "they're designed to fall on people" is not a valid excuse for the fact that they fell near civilians. Again, I don't day and night study military laws. That's like saying I'm ignorant because I don't know the name of both of your parents. Geeze. Is it so much to convey opinion? But I do understand where you're coming from [QUOTE=ironman17;36021284]Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.[/QUOTE] Exactly. I understand it's only for training, fine and dandy. What if it were armed?
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36023950]You're taking whatever I say way too literally. Still, you can't excuse munition falling out of supposedly safe and checked machines. To say "they're designed to fall on people" is not a valid excuse for the fact that they fell near civilians. Again, I don't day and night study military laws. That's like saying I'm ignorant because I don't know the name of both of your parents. Geeze. Is it so much to convey opinion? But I do understand where you're coming from Exactly. I understand it's only for training, fine and dandy. What if it were armed?[/QUOTE] did you read the article because it says that they literally never transport armed munitions like this, so there's no reason to get upset
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36023992]did you read the article because it says that they literally never transport armed munitions like this, so there's no reason to get upset[/QUOTE] I did read the article. It's just that people don't read what I post. I know they never do it that way. WHAT IF. You guys are like the Squidwards of FP
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36024001]I did read the article. It's just that people don't read what I post. I know they never do it that way. WHAT IF. You guys are like the Squidwards of FP[/QUOTE] there is no "what if" because they don't "what if" it turns out they were transporting nuclear bombs on that helicopter man?? what if?? it's a stupid, pointless question.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36024014]there is no "what if" because they don't "what if" it turns out they were transporting nuclear bombs on that helicopter man?? what if?? it's a stupid, pointless question[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.freewebs.com/toshiro-fan/spongebob-imagination.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36024001]I did read the article. It's just that people don't read what I post. I know they never do it that way. WHAT IF. You guys are like the Squidwards of FP[/QUOTE] There isn't a 'what if'. Stop trying to blow this out of proportions. Armed vehicles are never flown or away from the base. There's no explosive in the missile.
[QUOTE=Saza;36024055]There isn't a 'what if'. Stop trying to blow this out of proportions. Armed vehicles are never flown or away from the base. There's no explosive in the missile.[/QUOTE] What if there was a nuclear warhead HUH [B]WE COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD[/B]
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36023950]Still, you can't excuse munition falling out of supposedly safe and checked machines.[/QUOTE] You can, actually. While it's unfortunate, it had no ill consequences. A mechanical failure (or whatever happened here) can and will happen on any machine you build, whether it be simple wear and tear, a glitch, or a broken part. You can check these machines as much as you want, but there is ALWAYS the chance that something might go wrong.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;36024076]What if there was a nuclear warhead HUH [B]WE COULD HAVE BEEN DEAD[/B][/QUOTE] I could tell you the times that's happened but you'd probably have a heart attack. [quote]The 1966 Palomares B-52 crash or Palomares incident occurred on 17 January 1966, when a B-52G bomber of the USAF Strategic Air Command collided with a KC-135 tanker during mid-air refuelling at 31,000 feet (9,450 m) over the Mediterranean Sea, off the coast of Spain. The KC-135 was completely destroyed when its fuel load ignited, killing all four crew members. The B-52G broke apart, killing three of the seven crew members aboard.[1] Of the four Mk28 type hydrogen bombs the B-52G carried,[2] three were found on land near the small fishing village of Palomares in the municipality of Cuevas del Almanzora, Almería, Spain. The non-nuclear explosives in two of the weapons detonated upon impact with the ground, resulting in the contamination of a 2-square-kilometer (490-acre) (0.78 square mile) area by plutonium. The fourth, which fell into the Mediterranean Sea, was recovered intact after a 2½-month-long search.[/quote] But even they, were not armed, and therefore were impossible to detonate. Although they did radiate the area. There is 5.4 acres of Spanish soil sitting in a warehouse in South Carolina. Then there's that Mark 15 thermonuclear bomb they lost off the coast of Georgia... though they're still lookin' for that one. Fortunately, none of them are capable of exploding because they're not armed. Though nuclear contamination is a concern...
[QUOTE=ironman17;36021284]Good job it was a training missile; an actual explosive would've been "problematic", and by problematic I mean it coulda levelled some guy's bungalow.[/QUOTE] High explosive doesn't go off that easily, and I really wish people would actually remember that shit.
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