US to accept 2,000 of “the most vulnerable” Syrian refugees - Polidicks

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[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781925]As a final statement: I never said I was against helping others. I don't think poverty is "cured" I simply said people in the US don't take advantage of their opportunities as much as they should. I don't think I'm fucking amazing because I weld; I'm fucking amazing because I'm god himself. Fuck liberals. I want to emphasize that. No hard feelings, but seriously I love Dairy Queen. I am a xenophobe and I admit it.[/QUOTE] 1. ok 2. thinks his experience is representative of all others; self-centered; 3. egoistic; superiority complex; aggravating 4. bigoted; uses labels to hate entire groups; generalizes 5. fat 6. xenophobic you should re-evaluate how you assign your character traits because you're gonna get TK'd by like level 4 man, you should look up a better char build. putting all your skill pts into welding is a bad idea too, you're gonna get screwed over when a mob casts a "job loss" spell and disables it during a battle

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41781975] when you won't open the front door and see the problems HERE.[/QUOTE] hello! communist

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41781975]Who do you think is paying for their travel here? Who is paying the employees who are processing their immigration? And the money that goes towards their food and shelter while SOME of them get on their feet? Oh that's right, that's us. Millions down the drain for people who won't contribute to our society in any significant way when we have our own poor to worry about. This country needs to worry more about fixing itself and helping it's own people before it tries to be the hero of the planet. All you liberals want to go out and help other countries around the world when you won't open the front door and see the problems HERE. Just because there aren't mortars flying doesn't mean we're any less important.[/QUOTE] again, we spend hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars on failed military programs and spying databases and $2000 screwdrivers, why is getting 2k people out of a country where they could die at any second a bad thing? sure, we're paying for it, so what? if i could assign where my tax money goes, yeah, poverty and education and shit in the US would be my first priority i just don't see why people complain about something that'll save 2,000 lives and cost a millionth of one year of wasted US military budget. also I see the problems here i just argued about welfare for 3 pages with someone who thinks that everyone on it is lazy

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781001]holy fuck more immigrants and I bet you anything they're gonna be on government assistance[/QUOTE] Holy fuck. What kind of a person do you have to be to type that out unironically?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41782075] If you think the military is wasting money, what do you think this is? People die everyday, it is a fact of life. The government has an obligation first and foremost to THE PEOPLE. Not some Syrians across the ocean involved in a war that isn't ours.[/QUOTE] As a matter of fact, you could say the war is "ours." With the United States clearly taking sides in this conflict and are going to (already?) sending arms to the forces opposing the Assad regime. An example that would be most similar to this one would be Vietnam and the large amount of refugees the United States brought in. So in both ways, it falls upon the shoulders of the US for taking responsibility in the conflicts of the first place.

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781413]Holy fucking liberal. #2 If someone can't afford to live in a house on minimum wage maybe they should go get a real fucking job that pays more than minimum wage- and yeah, there are jobs that pay $12-$15 an hour that require no college experience. [/QUOTE] It's amazing that there's so many people who can't put two and two togther on this one. By people I mean maximoon, ie: people who don't understand that there's [I]not[/I] an infinite supply of high paying jobs that require little education.

fucking libtards inviting all these muslamic sandniggers just so that they can slack of all day and take our jobs and women!!

someone needs to prove their superior welding skills by welding this guy's gob shut..

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781413]Holy fucking liberal. #1 If you think the military throws our taxes "out the window" you're fucking clueless. #2 If someone can't afford to live in a house on minimum wage maybe they should go get a real fucking job that pays more than minimum wage- and yeah, there are jobs that pay $12-$15 an hour that require no college experience. #3 Once again, why is it our job to help these people? Oh yeah blah blah America we love people, bullshit. It's not our responsibility. Seriously move out of your fucking parents house kiddie. Why is it the US's responsibility?[/QUOTE] Can't tell if Globers relatives or just stupid.

[QUOTE=katbug;41781190]I feel really conflicted about this.[/QUOTE] Conflicted about what? That these 2,000 people are not the kind of 'characters of good morale' that you all are?

I really don't get the contradictive statements of some racists/xenophobes some times. They either say that immigrants are stealing their jobs and their women (if they themselves are out of a job and/or single) or that the immigrants do nothing but being lazy and live on welfare (if they themselves have a job).

Finally a country that doesn't just leave all the immigrants to us.

Its a nice gesture by the US.

Normally I'd be kind of skeptical about this, but I don't think two thousand people who've been pulled out of a warzone are going to waste their chance at life in a great country, especially compared to the one they came from.

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781302]Yeah because when our country's economy is in shitter and we are in debt we should make it OUR problem to take these people in. I'm all for helping people out but we don't have the fucking resources to do it. Besides, we still have lazy people getting welfare so adding onto that won't solve shit. [editline]Edit:[/editline] and hell yeah I think they'll go on government assistance, not forever but for a good amount of time[/QUOTE] Syria became a US problem the moment the US decided to start shipping weapons in. If you're helping with the destruction of the country then it's only fair you also help the people that live(d) in it. No resources to help 2000 people but enough resources to have military bases all around the world? Nice bullshit there.

So what does the US even do with refugees? The closest thing I've heard of a refugee camp in the US is a FEMA camp after a natural disaster

[QUOTE=Dr.C;41788406]So what does the US even do with refugees? The closest thing I've heard of a refugee camp in the US is a FEMA camp after a natural disaster[/QUOTE] They'll get to live in the US and get visas and stuff.

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781001]holy fuck more immigrants and I bet you anything they're gonna be on government assistance[/QUOTE] Steve Jobs' biological father was from Syria.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;41781594]Well, guess what, you're lucky! You're not the one with a mortar shell in your bed! You're not the one with a crippling disability that prevents you from finding a stable job! You're not the one with tens of thousands of dollars of college debts that suck into your income! You're not the one who can't afford the medical bills for your own cancer! Fucking self-centered little cunt, seriously. People need help, and I don't see why getting 2,000 people out of an environment where they could die at any time is such an outrage. It'll cost maybe 200k. Yet you have no qualms with 480 billion on a failed jet fighter program. This is an atom on the surface of a tax cent in comparison.[/QUOTE] Why are you sitting on your ass posting on facepunch then? Go help people, you live in the US, what the fuck is wrong with you, why aren't you helping people, you asshole. :v: I agree with maximoon at least on the ideology that we don't need to be helping anyone else out at this point in time, and if we do, it's generally because our gov't gains something out of it. But seriously, don't tell me my country needs to spend its resources and my money to help another country if you aren't doing something yourself, and I know goddamn well you aren't doing anything for the "cause". The whole "I hate liberals for the reason that they're liberals" comment is retarded though, liberals or conservative, you're still just another sheep to me.

[QUOTE=zach1193;41789579]Why are you sitting on your ass posting on facepunch then? Go help people, you live in the US, what the fuck is wrong with you, why aren't you helping people, you asshole. :v: I agree with maximoon at least on the ideology that we don't need to be helping anyone else out at this point in time, and if we do, it's generally because our gov't gains something out of it. But seriously, don't tell me my country needs to spend its resources and my money to help another country if you aren't doing something yourself, and I know goddamn well you aren't doing anything for the "cause". The whole "I hate liberals for the reason that they're liberals" comment is retarded though, liberals or conservative, you're still just another sheep to me.[/QUOTE] because the minute amount of money that these refugees receive will definitely be torn straight from the hands of starving american children (also your criticism of his position with 'he's not doing anything' is literally a logical fallacy buddy)

Probably accepting them just to put them into concentration camps.

[I]Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.....[/I]

Another in a long line of disgustingly awful threads. And captain mongoloid wasn't even banned, Jesus [QUOTE=katbug;41781190]I feel really conflicted about this.[/QUOTE] How so, katbug? [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=breakyourfac;41790884][I]Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.....[/I][/QUOTE] [I]...Unless they're brown and want to use government assistance, then they can fuck right off[/I]

As long as they want to work, pay fairly on their taxes and shit, then I have no problem giving them some help to get started.

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41790822] (also your criticism of his position with 'he's not doing anything' is literally a logical fallacy buddy)[/QUOTE] It was sarcasm. And who said anything about starving american children, since I pay taxes, I'd rather my country invest it's time and money into itself and benefit me, rather than gamble and take in a whopping 2,000 (why even bother making a deal about this if we're only going to take 2,000 anyways?) If there weren't other safe countries to emmigrate to, then ok, fine, I suppose we have room, but right now the US needs to fuck off when it comes to other countries and start fixing itself, we're running on borrowed time as a nation, and im sure everything's going to work out, I'm not saying we're going to all die or something, but why not sooner than later? The starving children comment does kind of support my stance too, if we have starving children in the US, why are people so hell bent on helping starving children in other countries? Is it maybe because charities like to take money from stupid people? [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DaysBefore;41790947]Another in a long line of disgustingly awful threads. And captain mongoloid wasn't even banned, Jesus How so, katbug? [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [I]...Unless they're brown and want to use government assistance, then they can fuck right off[/I][/QUOTE] I guess having an opinion is a bannable offense now? To be fair, they were both yelling at each other with profanity involved so...

[QUOTE=zach1193;41791051]I guess having an opinion is a bannable offense now? To be fair, they were both yelling at each other with profanity involved so...[/QUOTE] His opinion was blatantly and openly racist and xenophobic. Opinions don't exist in a magic void where they are immune to response. This forum has (loosely enforced, sadly) rules about xenophobia.

[QUOTE=zach1193;41791051]It was sarcasm. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] I guess having an opinion is a bannable offense now? To be fair, they were both yelling at each other with profanity involved so...[/QUOTE] [B]"But seriously, don't tell me my country needs to spend its resources and my money to help another country if you aren't doing something yourself, and I know goddamn well you aren't doing anything for the "cause"."[/B] telling me that was sarcasm?

[QUOTE=Maximoon;41781413] Why is it the US's responsibility?[/QUOTE] because they are offering it??....

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41791099][B]"But seriously, don't tell me my country needs to spend its resources and my money to help another country if you aren't doing something yourself, and I know goddamn well you aren't doing anything for the "cause"."[/B] telling me that was sarcasm?[/QUOTE] I edited, baby. Just what I quoted on you saying about the logical fallacy. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DaysBefore;41791085]His opinion was blatantly and openly racist and xenophobic. Opinions don't exist in a magic void where they are immune to response. This forum has (loosely enforced, sadly) rules about xenophobia.[/QUOTE] half the forum is xenophobic, if not more though from what I've encountered. I imagine though that's also due to the fact that a majority are also younger and xenophobia is almost encouraged. (if you're vastly "different" in school, you're usually avoided until high school and even then to an extent)