White people got their skin and hair from Neanderthals
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[QUOTE=Explosions;43716673][IMG]http://facepunch.com/fp/flags/se.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Spoilers: (I'm not white)
Edit: My ancestors fucked around in Siberia a lot it seems.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43716333]If you want to go further into it, you could argue that because of the mixed heritage that westerners have with Neanderthals, our craniums developed to grow larger than those without.
Also just FYI, it's Asians as well as whites, or at least lighter skinned ones.
If you want to be racist, you can point at a graph and be like. Well, I'm not implying anything. Okay. Just look at the numbers.
[img]http://puu.sh/6CYnx[/img][/QUOTE]
I mean wtf dude if you want to demonstrate that whites and Asians have a larger cranium per capita, then you'd do better to show a graph of whites and asians' brain sizes.
If you wanted to go the shitty tangential "this society does more things" route then at least do a dosh per capita chart not a GDP
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716078]It's no different than two different breeds of dogs mating. White people are mutts.
Edit: Dammit kurva[/QUOTE]
Kurwa*
Oh shit wait you actually meant the user
sorry my polish instinct went off
Not a new thing, if I remember correctly there was even a graph showing the percentage of Neanderthal genes in various races, with Asians, Caucasians, and Jews having the most, while Aus Aborigines and Africans have the least.
Neanderthals are chill.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43716060]I'm surprised that humans could breed with Neanderthals at all considering they'd be genetically quite different[/QUOTE]
They weren't that far off from normal humans at the time, much better adapted to the cold, and much tougher, but far less adaptable
[QUOTE=proch;43716772]Kurwa*
Oh shit wait you actually meant the user
sorry my polish instinct went off[/QUOTE]
Kurva*
The world doesn't revolve around you, Polen. You're disregarding Serbia, Bulgaria and other Balkan countries.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716037]So white people are technically different due to having genetics of a separate race.
That's oddly unsettling having a very slight sliver of truth in people arguing about separate races.[/QUOTE]
Wait who the hell doesn't believe in racial differences? Statistics and genetics confirm different human races have different characteristics in almost everything.
[QUOTE=acds;43716922]Wait who the hell doesn't believe in racial differences? Statistics and genetics confirm different human races have different characteristics in almost everything.[/QUOTE]
The world is still too politically correct (or politically retarded) to accept the mental differences between whites, blacks, asians and so on.
[QUOTE=acds;43716922]Wait who the hell doesn't believe in racial differences? Statistics and genetics confirm different human races have different characteristics in almost everything.[/QUOTE]
Because having a different colored skin doesn't mean you're a separate species.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716968]Because having a different colored skin doesn't mean you're a separate species.[/QUOTE]
Do you really think the only physical/biological difference between blacks and whites is the skin color? You're not very bright, are you.
[QUOTE=kurva;43716964]The world is still too politically correct (or politically retarded) to accept the mental differences between whites, blacks, asians and so on.[/QUOTE]
Feelings don't bend facts, as much as I would hate to have my success at something determined by genetics I can't control, facts back it up. Also the fact that it's all about averages of large amounts of individuals, even if you were in a group with a low average IQ, you could still have a very high one (or the other way around).
[QUOTE=kurva;43716985]Do you really think the only physical/biological difference between blacks and whites is the skin color? You're not very bright, are you.[/QUOTE]
Well the concept of race in itself is actually pretty obsolete when it comes to biology and anthropology.
There are some differences between groups of humans (such as resistance to particular diseases, lactose intolerance, etc) but most differences are trivial in aggregate. Most large populations are similar .
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716968]Because having a different colored skin doesn't mean you're a separate species.[/QUOTE]
Skincolour has very little to do with this, I'm talking genetic composition.
[QUOTE=kurva;43716964]The world is still too politically correct (or politically retarded) to accept the mental differences between whites, blacks, asians and so on.[/QUOTE]
*the world is too busy with other things that actually matter
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43716468][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/gAcqLrz.png[/IMG]
am i cave?
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gray is average
Lol, fucking wrecked.[/QUOTE]
It looks like you have 3.3% mammoth DNA
[QUOTE=kurva;43716985]Do you really think the only physical/biological difference between blacks and whites is the skin color? You're not very bright, are you.[/QUOTE]
Apart from minor differences in build, disease resistance, etc there aren't really any differences.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43717041]Apart from minor differences in build, disease resistance, etc[/QUOTE]
That's the difference I am talking about. They're still different. Differences between human races exist.
[QUOTE=kurva;43717080]That's the difference I am talking about. They're still different. Differences between human races exist.[/QUOTE]
insignificant differences
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thanks mr. science man it took you all of these years to teach us that races are actually different in some minor ways
[QUOTE=.Lain;43717091]insignificant differences
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thanks mr. science man it took you all of these years to teach us that races are actually different in some minor ways[/QUOTE]
Conclusion: difference is difference. And they're not insignificant.
[QUOTE=kurva;43717080]That's the difference I am talking about. They're still different. Differences between human races exist.[/QUOTE]
Differences within "races" are greater than those between them.
[QUOTE=kurva;43717117]Conclusion: difference is difference. And they're not insignificant.[/QUOTE]
In aggregate yes it is.
Obviously differences within races are bigger than between them (within a race IQ can vary by a hundred points, it doesn't between them), hence why you can't determine someone by their race (I guess you can make a statistical probability calculation if you really want). However there is no denying that there is a difference between the races, sometimes small, sometimes relatively large.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43717119]Differences within "races" are greater than those between them.
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I don't see how this invalidates differences between races.
The big issue with determining intelligence between races for me is that IQ tests really don't cut it. You can probably determine that someone scoring 160 most probably isn't stupid, or that someone scoring 60 most probably isn't too bright, but apart from very rough indications it's not that great of a system.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;43717201]I don't see how this invalidates differences between races.[/QUOTE]
it doesn't invalidate them, it makes them mostly irrelevant
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;43717201]I don't see how this invalidates differences between races.[/QUOTE]
Population X having say Y gene occurring 5% within that population, versus a 0.5% occurrence in population Z, isn't evidence of different races, it's evidence of genetic drift.
[QUOTE=.Lain;43717224]it doesn't invalidate them, it makes them mostly irrelevant[/QUOTE]
Irrelevant in what way?
Like, is it silly for me to assume black people are at higher risk for sickle cell?
I don't see why someone's ethnicity should matter in any circumstance. I just can't see where it'll ever going to be needed, except maybe in the medical field.
I also don't see where discussing someone's intelligence is going to bring us. In most of our time we deal with single individuals, an individual doesn't represent whatever group he's born into and that group doesn't represent him.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43717306]I don't see why someone's ethnicity should matter in any circumstance. I just can't see where it'll ever going to be needed, except maybe in the medical field.
I also don't see where discussing someone's intelligence is going to bring us. In most of our time we deal with single individuals, an individual doesn't represent whatever group he's born into and that group doesn't represent him.[/QUOTE]
Well there doesn't need to be a specific goal to knowledge acquisition and knowledge itself is never inherently good or bad. Nobody that understands statistics would judge an individual based on their race anyway.
Also it's kinda inevitable as we research genetics, not to mention it might lead to important medical discoveries (who knows, some stuff might work better for some races as opposed to others, or some races might have a genetic resistance to some diseases which can be used to spread that resistance to other races). Wouldn't be the first time we discovered something when it wasn't expected at all.
[QUOTE=.Lain;43717224]it doesn't invalidate them, it makes them mostly irrelevant[/QUOTE]
We're not trying to decide whether they're relevant or not, we're simply stating the facts.
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