White people got their skin and hair from Neanderthals
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[QUOTE=kurva;43717572]We're not trying to decide whether they're relevant or not, we're simply stating the facts.[/QUOTE]
What, pray, other facts do you have to state about races?
white privilege.
[QUOTE=acds;43717536]Well there doesn't need to be a specific goal to knowledge acquisition and knowledge itself is never inherently good or bad. Nobody that understands statistics would judge an individual based on their race anyway.
Also it's kinda inevitable as we research genetics, not to mention it might lead to important medical discoveries (who knows, some stuff might work better for some races as opposed to others, or some races might have a genetic resistance to some diseases which can be used to spread that resistance to other races). Wouldn't be the first time we discovered something when it wasn't expected at all.[/QUOTE]
Yeah researching genetics is great. I'm the only one in the thread that has done a DNA test after all. I understand its implications and what it may bring in the future.
Maybe I should have been clearer, but I was just wondering what the discussion of intelligence is doing in this thread? Let's be frank, it's always the same people in these kind of threads, and it's always the same agenda that's being spread. If there's something to be stated, [B]state it[/B].
[QUOTE=kurva;43717572]We're not trying to decide whether they're relevant or not, we're simply stating the facts.[/QUOTE]
why? we already know them. they're not as significant as mr. biotruths would like to think so
meh id not like to know what other time bombs are in my genes, i already have dimentia, parkinsons, alzimers, heart dissease, and alcoholism among other things, but damn my grandpa on my mom's side died with a full head of hair and thats where it counts! (also my grandma has a full head of hair).
[QUOTE=Sableye;43717804]meh id not like to know what other time bombs are in my genes, i already have dimentia, parkinsons, alzimers, heart dissease, and alcoholism among other things, but damn my grandpa on my mom's side died with a full head of hair and thats where it counts! (also my grandma has a full head of hair).[/QUOTE]
The current test only show ancestry information, so you'll be able to see from which parts of the world you are from. Where your earliest ancestors came from and so on. It's really cool. It also links you with your distant relatives. I have 104 cousins on that site. Most of them share the same great-great-great-great grandfather. It's fun as hell. Even got contacted by some of them.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43716671]Like health information, what kind of diseases you were most likely to get and so on. People were acting out on the information as if diagnosed by a doctor, and FDA had enough.[/QUOTE]
I actually got in before they stopped health info.
It said I had a big chance of eye and lung problems. I wear glasses and I had a lung collapse twice in one year. They knew.
Also I'm apparently 0.1% Italian so mama mia
[QUOTE=kurva;43717080]That's the difference I am talking about. They're still different. Differences between human races exist.[/QUOTE]
There's no such thing as "races." An East African tribe might be slightly taller on average than people from Mali. Just like more people have red hair in Ireland than elsewhere in Europe.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43716060]I'm surprised that humans could breed with Neanderthals at all considering they'd be genetically quite different[/QUOTE]
Not at all, really. Humans are humans, be they Homo neanderthalensis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens, etc. They really aren't even a separate species, more like a different "breed", if you will.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43717979]There's no such thing as "races." [/QUOTE]
Citation needed.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43716180]It's in the same classification regarding the species family so it would be possible.
I thought people already knew this to be honest. I guess when you call us homo sapiens and forget to call the other species by proper names, you lose the base from which we are similar. Species name proper for them is [b]Homo neanderthalensis[/b]
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If you look in genetics, there's a lot of interesting things. Like pacific sea countries typically have mixing with Denisovans.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovans[/url][/QUOTE]
are u callin me a homo mate
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716037]So white people are technically different due to having genetics of a separate race.
That's oddly unsettling having a very slight sliver of truth in people arguing about separate races.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind that europoids and monogoloids are generally closer related if I remember correctly.
That said, considering just how much a number of societies have intermixed (like in the US) it's really hard to talk about distinct genetic lines. As there's a lot of cross mixing going around for the majority of people.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43717979]There's no such thing as "races." An East African tribe might be slightly taller on average than people from Mali. Just like more people have red hair in Ireland than elsewhere in Europe.[/QUOTE]
Get this. Different evolution patterns happen.
Holy shit right?
I'm predicting at least one racism ban by the time this thread fades away.
[QUOTE=Explosions;43717979]There's no such thing as "races." An East African tribe might be slightly taller on average than people from Mali. Just like more people have red hair in Ireland than elsewhere in Europe.[/QUOTE]
remember that colourblindness is a form of racism
[QUOTE=kurva;43718027]Citation needed.[/QUOTE]
The burden of proof is on you to prove races exist.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43718081]The burden of proof is on you to prove races exist.[/QUOTE]
He can't.
It's unarguably the best way to single out tards that doesn't understand biology or the word "race" itself. It's great.
[QUOTE=kurva;43716871]Kurva*
The world doesn't revolve around you, Polen. You're disregarding Serbia, Bulgaria and other Balkan countries.[/QUOTE]
Who cares about those kurwas
[QUOTE=kurva;43716964]mental differences between whites, blacks, asians and so on.[/QUOTE]
what differences?
[QUOTE=proch;43718265]Who cares about those kurwas[/QUOTE]
Just send me a Polish kurwa, I need a gf. I'll send you a box of sarma in exchange.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;43716037]So white people are technically different due to having genetics of a separate race.
That's oddly unsettling having a very slight sliver of truth in people arguing about separate races.[/QUOTE]
there are seperate races though. That's the thing. Otherwise racism couldn't exist. Since, well, there wouldn't be races. It's a self-proving truth.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43717738]Yeah researching genetics is great. I'm the only one in the thread that has done a DNA test after all. I understand its implications and what it may bring in the future.
Maybe I should have been clearer, but I was just wondering what the discussion of intelligence is doing in this thread? Let's be frank, it's always the same people in these kind of threads, and it's always the same agenda that's being spread. If there's something to be stated, [B]state it[/B].[/QUOTE]
I imagine its the same usual agendas, one being "no difference between races lalalala can't hear you" and the other "Aryan strong race war now!". For me its just being on then side of facts (not some peoples interpretation of them), which some people seem to think puts me on the latter (which I'm not). I only really care that people don't hush hush knowledge because it might be coldhearted. If people then interpret that knowledge as "Hitler was right" is their problem, the knowledge itself isn't inherently bad, discriminatory, or hateful, people's interpretations and understandings of it can be.
I'm sure someone will come along and call me a Nazi though (which is funny because these stats if anything prove Jews and Asians score higher than Caucasians).
no shit, look at the welsh
fuck im 1/4 welsh
[QUOTE=Cockslap;43718290]there are seperate races though. That's the thing. Otherwise racism couldn't exist. Since, well, there wouldn't be races. It's a self-proving truth.[/QUOTE]
Believing that separate races exist is literally the definition of racism.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43718333]Believing that separate races exist is literally the definition of racism.[/QUOTE]
Believing that everyone's the same is idiotism.
[QUOTE=acds;43718297]I imagine its the same usual agendas, one being "no difference between races lalalala can't hear you" and the other "Aryan strong race war now!". For me its just being on then side of facts (not some peoples interpretation of them), which some people seem to think puts me on the latter (which I'm not). I only really care that people don't hush hush knowledge because it might be coldhearted. If people then interpret that knowledge as "Hitler was right" is their problem, the knowledge itself isn't inherently bad, discriminatory, or hateful, people's interpretations and understandings of it can be.
I'm sure someone will come along and call me a Nazi though (which is funny because these stats if anything prove Jews and Asians score higher than Caucasians).[/QUOTE]
Literally micro evolution. Like you can't just hold your hands to your ears when the evidence is literally right in front of you. If we classified it as agriculture does, different ethnic groups would be different species coming from the same root.
Changes happen over a lot of generations and people are different. Holy shit right?
[QUOTE=kurva;43716964]mental differences between whites, blacks, asians and so on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]what differences?[/QUOTE]
Answer.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43718333]Believing that separate races exist is literally the definition of racism.[/QUOTE]
I think you're confusing race and species bud. Not everyone is the same, were not fucking monocultured. People are different.
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[QUOTE=Gwoodman;43718399]Answer.[/QUOTE]
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To put into prospective. South Korea and Japan both obtained record growth and rose to a trillion dollar gdp within one to two generations of rule.
I'm going to attribute that to something.
Thanks but I want to know his opinion on mental differences, not the GDP statistics.
[QUOTE=acds;43718297]I imagine its the same usual agendas, one being "no difference between races lalalala can't hear you" and the other "Aryan strong race war now!". For me its just being on then side of facts (not some peoples interpretation of them), which some people seem to think puts me on the latter (which I'm not). I only really care that people don't hush hush knowledge because it might be coldhearted. If people then interpret that knowledge as "Hitler was right" is their problem, the knowledge itself isn't inherently bad, discriminatory, or hateful, people's interpretations and understandings of it can be.
I'm sure someone will come along and call me a Nazi though (which is funny because these stats if anything prove Jews and Asians score higher than Caucasians).[/QUOTE]
Yeah I understand you, was never really aiming at you with the post.
The problem is just that I think we're simplifying extremely complicated matters such as "race" or intelligence. We imagine there's 5 or something "races" and that intelligence is something that can be printed down in numbers. I just get stuck on people that then uses this incredibly simplified view of the human and the world to pass judgement on people.
In reality, it is an extremely broad topic that people have been discussing and researching for hundreds of years.
You know it's kinda like those physics threads in SH where many users read a title, glances over an article, then spews psuedoscientific nonsense. Exactly the same thing is happening here. And that's what makes me so annoyed.
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