Economics Professor Reckons Bernie Sanders' Plan Would Create 26 Million Jobs and Increase Median In - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sableye;49700781]i actually was at a writing course and that was one of those optical things they talked about, we have a tendency to ignore nots that are between words that already make sense[/QUOTE] It's an awkward disruption to what appears to be parallel sentence structure, yeah. But let's not start grading peoples' posts now lol If Bernie gets elected President, I hope that the mid-term congressional elections are kind to him and give him some cooperative reps. I suspect President Sanders would find a Congress thirsting to stonewall him even harder than Obama had to contend with.

If Bernie gets elected, I hope that sends a loud signal to other politicians that "moral backbone=electability"

[QUOTE=Daysofwinter;49700961]If Bernie gets elected, I hope that sends a loud signal to other politicians that "moral backbone=electability"[/QUOTE] Morals are subjective. For instance, evangelicals could say the exact same thing, 'moral backbone = electability', about Ted Cruz.

How was Gerald Friedman chosen to represent anything on CNN? What about all the other economists who have come out in opposition to Bernie's plan? What about the Businessman, who is also running for office, who has a great amount of experience in implementing these great sounding plans, who insists that the plan would be a disaster?

[QUOTE=Daysofwinter;49700594]Like I said before, both parties stink. Why not make a new idea that opposes both parties to force change? Know how Tony stark was given two options when captured? Then he made he own (which was make a power suit) and kicked ass? We must be like Tony Stark.[/QUOTE] Movements like the Tea Party and people outside of the establishment, such as Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump, are exactly what you're proposing - a new idea to oppose both parties and force change. There will never be a political candidate which anyone could ever agree with 100%, and so you should just support the next, best thing.

[QUOTE=BigWhitey;49701292]Movements like the Tea Party and people outside of the establishment, such as Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump, are exactly what you're proposing - a new idea to oppose both parties and force change. There will never be a political candidate which anyone could ever agree with 100%, and so you should just support the next, best thing.[/QUOTE] Sanders has been growing like a fungus in Washington for ten thousand years, how is he 'outside the establishment'?

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49700236]I honestly don't know who to vote for. shillary scares me, trumpet mouth is fucking nuts, and while I can agree with the majority of sandy's economic, medical, and foreign policies, I [I]cannot[/I] agree with his policies on gun control and those are rather important to me. So I'm stuck. Who the hell do I back? I'm half tempted to just not vote since any direction we go something important could potentially get seriously fucked up. I dunno what to do.[/QUOTE] How can gun control genuinely be that important an issue to someone that you won't vote for essentially the only candidate proposing genuinely good economic and social policies, the only candidate who actually wants socialised healthcare in the US. [editline]9th February 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=SaltyWaters;49701313]Sanders has been growing like a fungus in Washington for ten thousand years, how is he 'outside the establishment'?[/QUOTE] Colourful language He's outside the establishment because until now he never caucused with one of the two main parties, he doesn't take donations from huge corporations, and he doesn't hang out with / isn't related to loads of businessmen and lobbyists like virtually everyone else in politics.

He's outside the establishment because he has like 12 super delegate votes

[QUOTE=27X;49700601]What a shitty plan, now everyone will be middle class and not be miserable. Does this man not understand how modern politics are supposed to work.[/QUOTE] (Acknowledging that you were being sarcastic) Mr. Friedman's findings are contradictory to those published by other economists and research firms. For instance, the Tax Foundation - through the research OvB linked to above - found that wages would drop by ~4%, after-tax income would drop by at least ~10% (and no, that's not just for the top 1%, who would face a higher loss), and investments would drop by ~18%. All over ten years. I wouldn't trust someone with a track record like Mr. Friedman to conduct an impartial analysis. [url]https://www.umass.edu/economics/friedman[/url] But I do digress because no one should rely on any one source anyways. Tax Foundation might have got it wrong, too.

[QUOTE=BigWhitey;49701292]Movements like the Tea Party and people outside of the establishment, such as Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump, are exactly what you're proposing - a new idea to oppose both parties and force change. There will never be a political candidate which anyone could ever agree with 100%, and so you should just support the next, best thing.[/QUOTE] They are not outside the establishment. They still fall within the what is considered left right paradigm. I have noticed if a person for the green party, they end up supporting the democrats. That or their party does. If Libertarian, still support the GOP or the party does. So these people end up supporting the establishment and end up supporting the corruption that occurs. If centrists (there were attempts to recreate the whigs) what happens is the party ends up dividing among the left right spectrum. So no unity and nothing gets done there. Such centrists end up supporting the establishment any ways due to this fault When I say moral, I mean do not be a sell out, corrupt or a corporate shill.

[QUOTE=SaltyWaters;49701244]How was Gerald Friedman chosen to represent anything on CNN? What about all the other economists who have come out in opposition to Bernie's plan? What about the Businessman, who is also running for office, who has a great amount of experience in implementing these great sounding plans, who insists that the plan would be a disaster?[/QUOTE] running for office is the keyword here he'd oppose even the most perfectly crafted, godlike plan ever conceived because that's how politics work

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49703087]running for office is the keyword here he'd oppose even the most perfectly crafted, godlike plan ever conceived because that's how politics work[/QUOTE] No, I'm pretty sure he'd steal it and say he could do it better.