• World estimated to hit 7 billion people in less then a week
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32977904]Too bad quoting and reading aren't the same. I said if you don't have it already. Right there. At the end of the sentence. That covers those born with it. Reading is fun![/QUOTE] A baby contracts it from their mother during pregnancy. There is a time when they don't yet have it. Saying it isn't a plague also really understates it and it's a rather idiotic American-centric view
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;32977167]That sounds like what rightists say when they want to cut welfare.[/QUOTE] Except cutting welfare hurts people. Unborn children can't take damage from not being born.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32977924]Except cutting welfare hurts people. Unborn children can't take damage from not being born.[/QUOTE] Telling people they're not allowed to have kids hurts people.
[QUOTE=Contag;32977205]I'm 12 so posting a graph will convince me. Cite the study and link it. Thanks.[/QUOTE] It's a UN study. [url]http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf[/url]
Stop having children damnit!
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32976461]Not really, there is still plenty of room and resources to last the human race. Some countries actually have a negative population growth now (Such as Japan and Hungary I believe).[/QUOTE] True, but the high-tech resources are starting to run out. And population growth isn't helping it either.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32977944]Tell people they're not allowed to have kids hurts people.[/QUOTE] Starvation hurts more.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32977919]A baby contracts it from their mother during pregnancy. There is a time when they don't yet have it. Saying it isn't a plague also really understates it and it's a rather idiotic American-centric view[/QUOTE] My view is mistaken because I'm an American. I see.
I don't know how 15 billion people by 2100 is bad. Considering our growth rates, a mere extra nine billion in NINETY YEARS is a blessing.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32977919]A baby contracts it from their mother during pregnancy. There is a time when they don't yet have it. Saying it isn't a plague also really understates it and it's a rather idiotic American-centric view[/QUOTE] He said its easy to avoid if you don't have it. Also you are claiming that his nationality makes him an idiot.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32977983]He said its easy to avoid if you don't have it.[/QUOTE] Okay, SOMEONE sees that. I was about to go mad wondering if my simple words were really too complex for FP :v:
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;32977606]Good god you're a lunatic [img]http://i.imgur.com/hcDuB.png[/img][/QUOTE] I was pointing out a fact. If you're going to limit the population, you don't do it in a way which decreases the population. You try to keep it constant.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;32977982]I don't know how 15 billion people by 2100 is bad. Considering our growth rates, a mere extra nine billion in NINETY YEARS is a blessing.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the technology we'll most likely have to compensate for the extra population by then.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32978010]Not to mention the technology we'll most likely have to compensate for the extra population by then.[/QUOTE] Offworld colonization maybe? :zoid:
The main issue with population is to reliably feed and distribute the resources for them all. Good infrastructure, mainly in the form of high speed rail networks and computer networks can help to control and run it all. However in order to do that a country must be modernised and industrialised so it can build this infrastructure. Also scale tends to produce higher amounts of goods. The bigger farms are, the bigger farming machinery can be employed on them and crop rotation used. (For example if you have loads of small fields, then you cannot fit as large machinery on them). Introduce GM foods, make more efficient fertilizers, etc. Food supply won't be a problem if you take steps like this. In another way, by joining farms together you force people out of the countryside and into urban environments, where the birth rate tends to be lower than in the countryside.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;32978063]What the fuck, why was this rated dumb, it's a perfectly valid statement. Linking a graph isn't enough, it doesn't prove shit, you could have made it in Photoshop for all we know, link or a source confirming it or don't post a graph at all.[/QUOTE] The way he asked it?
[QUOTE=Ardosos;32978026]Offworld colonization maybe? :zoid:[/QUOTE] China is heading toward the moon by the end of the decade, supposedly. I think it isn't too overly optimistic to see people at least exploring Mars by the end of the century. Probably not colonization, but it'll definitely be the first, greatest step toward it. Kind of makes me shiver with excitement thinking about possibly seeing that in my lifetime. I'll probably be too old at the time to move there, but it'd be grand to really be alive at the time humanity "moves into space".
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32978010]Not to mention the technology we'll most likely have to compensate for the extra population by then.[/QUOTE] And atomically precise manufacturing will end scarcity and shit.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32977980]My view is mistaken because I'm an American. I see.[/QUOTE] haha yeah that's exactly what the phrase means It couldn't possibly mean that you're only looking at the situation in America and ignoring Africa or anything like that No it was definitely a personal attack on you Absolutely Good eye
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32978202]haha yeah that's exactly what the phrase means It couldn't possibly mean that you're only looking at the situation in America and ignoring Africa or anything like that No it was definitely a personal attack on you Absolutely Good eye[/QUOTE] I was unaware of your mind reading abilities to know I was ONLY looking at AIDS in America, because I really don't see me mentioning that in any of the posts I made.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32978225]I was unaware of your mind reading abilities to know I was ONLY looking at AIDS in America, because I really don't see me mentioning that in any of the posts I made.[/QUOTE] You said AIDS isn't a plague It absolutely is, in places like Africa Not considering that is a very American-centric viewpoint
I'm going to have to side with Zeke here.
Time to establish the Population Police
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32978099]China is heading toward the moon by the end of the decade, supposedly. I think it isn't too overly optimistic to see people at least exploring Mars by the end of the century. Probably not colonization, but it'll definitely be the first, greatest step toward it. Kind of makes me shiver with excitement thinking about possibly seeing that in my lifetime. I'll probably be too old at the time to move there, but it'd be grand to really be alive at the time humanity "moves into space".[/QUOTE] Space colonization is the only possible solution in a society where the population can grow uncontrollably. I think we all want to see it happen in our lifetimes, but it won't. I expect to see a Mars settlement before the end of my life though.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32978251]You said AIDS isn't a plague It absolutely is, in places like Africa Not considering that is a very American-centric viewpoint[/QUOTE] If it makes you feel any better Scorpious, if you were Australian I'd say it was an Australian-centric viewpoint and so forth If you were African I'd just call you a massive idiot heh
[QUOTE=demoguy08;32978338]Space colonization is the only possible solution in a society where the population can grow uncontrollably. I think we all want to see it happen in our lifetimes, but it won't. I expect to see a Mars settlement before the end of my life though.[/QUOTE] You're assuming human-sized humans (hur dur) with human intake. If a good percentage of the population was a box of solid-state circuits, an inefficient cycle (Sun -> Old plants -> Petroleum for mechanized agrioculture and transporation + Sun->Present-day plants->Human consumption) of energy transfer would have no need to exist, and the energy economy that we live in (But is shadowed by the complexity and the many conversions in the cycle) would be simplified to a simple conversion of sunlight or LFTR or geothermal to the electricity needed to compute minds.
[IMG]http://www.paulchefurka.ca/World%20Population.JPG[/IMG]
I'd like to point out that this "overpopulation problem" is only in 3rd world countries, 1st world's and even some 2nd's haven't an overpopulation problem [editline]26th October 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=mac338;32978495][IMG]http://www.paulchefurka.ca/World%20Population.JPG[/IMG][/QUOTE] Yes yes, J shaped curve.
[QUOTE=mac338;32978495][IMG]http://www.paulchefurka.ca/World%20Population.JPG[/IMG][/QUOTE] Graph is incorrect, in 1340 there were 440 million people, and in 1400 there were 375 million. It went down in that time, not up.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;32978251]You said AIDS isn't a plague It absolutely is, in places like Africa Not considering that is a very American-centric viewpoint[/QUOTE] I wouldn't consider it a plague because you can avoid getting it rather easily...at least in America, maybe in Africa it's different because rape (a large contributor to AIDS transferring over there I'm sure) is extremely common
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