If the US election was held in Europe instead, Hillary Cllinton would win in a landslide - YouGov po - Polidicks

uninformed europeans opt to vote for the one they've heard the most of. big shocker

This is bullshit.

I know i wouldn't vote for Clinton. Or Trump for that matter.

All the people I know who are informed about the democratic candidates support Sanders. Otherwise it's Clinton because all the other options are batshit crazy.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;50060759]Why.[/QUOTE] The same reason Merkel is in power in Germany.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;50061111]That aside, Europe wants another criminal instead of the other options. I mean really, the Democrat nomination will either be a socialist or a criminal. So take your pick, I guess.[/QUOTE] Most people over here don't really know who Sanders or Cruz are, and they know Clinton as Bill's wife and Trump as a moronic billionaire.

A lot of people are saying Clinton is only in the lead in this poll because Europeans are 'uninformed'. Really? Don't people use the same argument, by referring to voting Americans, when Clinton beats Bernie in a primary or caucus? Is it not the case that informed people could just like Hillary? Also, Bernie has said in the past that he looked at governments, like in Denmark, for inspiration for his policies. But ironically, those governments have attempted to distance themselves from Bernie. Eg pretty sure Denmark's PM has reaffirmed his country is one that uses a market economy, rather than anything that is socialist. Given the resurgence of the right in Europe, I'm sure Hillary's relative support isn't just 'uninformed Europeans'.

Hillary Clinton has celebrity status, in Australia (which ill say is pretty much exactly like UK media) only concentrates on Clinton and Trump, the biggest names people will mostly know bc of Bill Clinton and The Apprentice (Trump) Sanders and Cruz were only mentioned briefly when the media was reporting on winning states during the primaries, however i found on talk show programmes like Hack on Triple J, people were texting their support for Sanders When i speak to mates about the election, we all back Sanders, so even tho Clinton and Trump have that media advantage, Sanders is hitting more people through social media

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;50061332]So uninformed voters vote for hillary?[/QUOTE] That's actually a clever way of thinking about this.

Bit weird how the actual democrats abroad caucuses were, with exception to the Dominican Republic and Singapore, wins for Bernie. They probably don't fit in the demographics of this survey though.

Good thing this isn't Europe then.

[QUOTE=sb27;50063614]A lot of people are saying Clinton is only in the lead in this poll because Europeans are 'uninformed'. Really? Don't people use the same argument, by referring to voting Americans, when Clinton beats Bernie in a primary or caucus? Is it not the case that informed people could just like Hillary? Also, Bernie has said in the past that he looked at governments, like in Denmark, for inspiration for his policies. But ironically, those governments have attempted to distance themselves from Bernie. Eg pretty sure Denmark's PM has reaffirmed his country is one that uses a market economy, rather than anything that is socialist. Given the resurgence of the right in Europe, I'm sure Hillary's relative support isn't just 'uninformed Europeans'.[/QUOTE] Our PM can say what he wants, even with the ongoing cuts to welfare, education etc., this country still aligns fairly well with Sander's views - this is probably the most liberal government we've had in some time, and still we're pretty left. Of course Denmark has a market economy. My experience is that many people like bernie, but they don't seriously think he has or had a chance at the nomination. Clinton has a lot a of starpower.

[QUOTE=sb27;50063614] Also, Bernie has said in the past that he looked at governments, like in Denmark, for inspiration for his policies. But ironically, those governments have attempted to distance themselves from Bernie. Eg pretty sure Denmark's PM has reaffirmed his country is one that uses a market economy, rather than anything that is socialist..[/QUOTE] I'm not sure when Bernie said he wanted to transition away from a market economy. His "socialist policies" all relate, coincidentally enough, to social issues.

Europeans hate Putin, Putin hates Clinton. Probably not a big factor though

This is why no one asks for Europe's opinion on anything.

Results are fabricated. All votes where done from Hillarys new email server.

[QUOTE=finbe;50063963]Bit weird how the actual democrats abroad caucuses were, with exception to the Dominican Republic and Singapore, wins for Bernie. They probably don't fit in the demographics of this survey though.[/QUOTE] Americans (even if they live abroad) are more informed about the US Elections than people in the EU.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;50060779]Do many Europeans give that much of a shit about our election? Like do you guys actually pay much attention to our candidates and what they're doing and all that? Because I'm wondering if this is something that's generally an informed decision or not.[/QUOTE] Most of my friends and me are really hyped for the US elections, it's not even sensation only but we really try to research what it happening right now in your country. It's just basic economics to know that whatever happens in the US it has a direct influence on the european market and the other way round. Also, I HIGHLY doubt the outcome of the poll. Bernie all the way!!!

[QUOTE=sb27;50063614]A lot of people are saying Clinton is only in the lead in this poll because Europeans are 'uninformed'. Really? Don't people use the same argument, by referring to voting Americans, when Clinton beats Bernie in a primary or caucus? Is it not the case that informed people could just like Hillary?[/QUOTE] How many people are going to bother looking up the views and history of every candidate in an election for another country in enough detail to make an informed decision when the average person in Europe did not know--or even care--who was running for the President of European Commission in 2014? [url=http://www.aecr.eu/media/AECRAMR-European-election-poll.pdf]1[/url] [url=http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=6491]2[/url]

lies, would never vote for her

Everyone that I have talked to that have personally followed the US elections, have a clear preference for sanders. All other people would likely vote Clinton, as she has been Secretary of State/Foreign minister and have had a lot more exposure through that job.

I really doubt majority of these people even knew who these people were so they went with the option they know most about. I pretty much wouldn't know who Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders is if I didn't hang around FP or browse SH. Why should I or anyone who isn't from US even care, it's not like I can do anything about it no matter what my opinion is.

[QUOTE=Dom Pyroshark;50065097]I really doubt majority of these people even knew who these people were so they went with the option they know most about. I pretty much wouldn't know who Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders is if I didn't hang around FP or browse SH. Why should I or anyone who isn't from US even care, it's not like I can do anything about it no matter what my opinion is.[/QUOTE] If you don't know who Clinton or Donald trump is at this point you've been living under a rock. And you should give a shit, even though you can't do much about it, who gets the presidency is anything but inconsequential.

Yeah all I see on the news here is either Clinton or Trump, the only people that know about Bernie are people that actually follow the elections and don't just stumble on it on the evening news.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;50065019]How many people are going to bother looking up the views and history of every candidate in an election for another country in enough detail to make an informed decision when the average person in Europe did not know--or even care--who was running for the President of European Commission in 2014? [url=http://www.aecr.eu/media/AECRAMR-European-election-poll.pdf]1[/url] [url=http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=6491]2[/url][/QUOTE] The president of the European Commission doesn't hold the same amount of power as the president of the united states does. He doesn't even hold as much power as your average country president, he does not determine foreign policy, command troops or control taxes or any legislation. He gives European Commission direction and has some control over their agenda, but does not have authority over the members of the commission. He can't even vote in the European Council. 80% of his doing is being the EU representative, he's the functional equivalent of the fucking queen, he's not the person who gets to push legislation for 4 years and has big red panic buttons and rolls in with "Everything is going to change!" Campaigns. Besides that, we don't directly vote for the EU commission president. And since the EU is mainly a legislative body and has very little executive tasks the commissions powers and functions are insignificant in-comparison to the united states, and legislative bodies such as the council and parlement is significantly more important. Not that the average European can tell you the president of the European Council besides "Wasn't it Angela Merkel at some point?", but once again [quote]The president's role is largely political, preparing the work of the European Council, organising and chairing its meetings, seeking to find consensus among its members and reporting to the European Parliament after each meeting[/quote]

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50065102]If you don't know who Clinton or Donald trump is at this point you've been living under a rock. And you should give a shit, even though you can't do much about it, who gets the presidency is anything but inconsequential.[/QUOTE] You're damn right!

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;50065102]If you don't know who Clinton or Donald trump is at this point you've been living under a rock. And you should give a shit, even though you can't do much about it, who gets the presidency is anything but inconsequential.[/QUOTE] Eeeh, not that many people really give a shit about foreign politics in an overseas states, most are focused on personal problems and stuff that directly involves them like politics of THEIR country.

Only candidate that makes sense in these elections in my eyes is Bernie Sanders. Trump is insane and Clinton is a lying, slithering snake. If it comes to choosing between them, it comes down to choosing the lesser evil and it should not be that way ever. That's a short version of how I see the US elections at the moment.

[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;50060779]Do many Europeans give that much of a shit about our election? Like do you guys actually pay much attention to our candidates and what they're doing and all that? Because I'm wondering if this is something that's generally an informed decision or not.[/QUOTE] I don't think so. I certainly don't. However, the media forces it down our throats a bit. Also, this election is a bit of an exception because everyone is amazed by how much of an idiot Trump is.

[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;50060864]That kind of polls are biased as fuck They should only leave a questionaire like "in a scale of 1 to 10, how important is X to you?" If everyone put 10 in tax cuts and kicking the refugees out, trump would win Eh, for the first time I can say Argentina is an example of that. We did a poll like I suggested some time ago: [url]http://www.yoquierosaber.org/#preguntasPasadas=[/url][271][/QUOTE] We had similar things in the UK, more of a service type website than a poll [url]http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/[/url]