Laurentian University professor removed for asking students to agree to profane language - Polidicks

[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;49473532]A good chunk of college students nowadays act like children, so he's not wrong.[/QUOTE] Yeah I just don't think this is true. In all likelyhood the majority of college students don't act like children. You only hear about the ones who do because they make such a big fuss about it that shit needlessly changes for them.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49472735]understandable, how would you feel if your daycare provided said "fuck" to your kid?[/QUOTE] Oh no, not the word "Fuck" whatever will my baby do *life goes on*

[QUOTE=gufu;49473898]I don't think "pure offensiveness" is the goal, but I do highly enjoy when college professors use precise profanity, especially to get attention from otherwise-passive class. Profanity is frequently something that is associated with a specific target, so it gets people's attention and even participation. There is more to just making a point, it must be gotten across. Hell, I had my English professor recite the first stanza of "Fuck tha Police", and considering that the discussion was in regards to Urban Culture, Cultural Narrative, and the fact that most of the class (me included) were a bunch of Freshmen who were lulled by the limits imposed on High School teachers. And all things considered, it was one of the more efficient examples of introducing the concepts. Thereby I disagree with your idea that professors should not be allowed to approach education from a personal standpoint, if they can be sure that it is an appropriate approach.[/QUOTE] I'm fine with teachers having their own style or even using useful profanity. My posts are specifically talking about this case and the examples given in his handout.

Am I the only one that feels like this would have gone much more smoother if the lecturer had skipped the "Make everyone sign this paper, grabbing the university's attention." step to his process? I see the point of it, and I'm not calling it the wrong idea, but it seems to be the problem here, not the swearing. (although some of the answers on the handout made me laugh out loud)

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49472735]understandable, how would you feel if your daycare provided said "fuck" to your kid?[/QUOTE] It's a fucking university.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49472735]understandable, how would you feel if your daycare provided said "fuck" to your kid?[/QUOTE] Except this is a UNIVERSITY, not a fucking daycare.

[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;49474662]Except this is a UNIVERSITY, not a fucking daycare.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;49474608]It's a fucking university.[/QUOTE] We've been over it: that's the joke.

[QUOTE=RaxaHax;49474684]We've been over it: that's the joke.[/QUOTE] Once again, Facepunch stumbles over itself after not getting a joke. If anything, this thread feels like a daycare.

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Technically you're not allowed to swear and slander on campus this is common you guys but they should have just warned him and he should have notified the faculty first

There's only 3 swear words on that list anyway.

Fuck all these pusssy ass bitches who seem to think that they shouldn't be offended. Logically words are completely meaningless and offensive is just a made up thing because you don't like the feeling and are too much of a bitch to deal with it. I fucking hate people like that.

[QUOTE=DELL;49479161]Fuck all these pusssy ass bitches who seem to think that they shouldn't be offended. Logically words are completely meaningless and offensive is just a made up thing because you don't like the feeling and are too much of a bitch to deal with it. I fucking hate people like that.[/QUOTE] All words are meaningless beyond the meaning that people give them. Believe it or not, offense is one of available functions of words. Those words are supposed to be offensive. If they weren't, then they wouldn't really have meaning at all.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;49474009]Yeah I just don't think this is true. In all likelyhood the majority of college students don't act like children. You only hear about the ones who do because they make such a big fuss about it that shit needlessly changes for them.[/QUOTE] You see the yale protests, this isn't fringe s

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;49473225]I really have to wonder at the context, though. He's having people consent to usage of the word in class, but the reasoning behind it could make all the difference, and he offers a few peeks of his reasoning in the consent form. Note that it is never explicitly stated that he will shout "fag" or "ornicate Gyrus" at the top of his lungs, just that these words will be used in the course in one way or another, ie as a topic for discussion.[/QUOTE] given the guy's track record (and he's asking permission in the first place) i think it's fair to assume he plans to use it legitimately and not abuse it by default

[QUOTE=nintenman1;49472752]Hopefully he can get a job somewhere else that isn't attended by a bunch of babies.[/QUOTE] Are you sure that's even possible for a post-secondary institution in this day and age?

[QUOTE=sgman91;49479270]All words are meaningless beyond the meaning that people give them. Believe it or not, offense is one of available functions of words. Those words are supposed to be offensive. If they weren't, then they wouldn't really have meaning at all.[/QUOTE] Therein lies the crux. Person A gives meaning to X and person B gives meaning to Y. Those words aren't supposed to be offensive, the majority of the curse words aren't supposed to be offensive. The way the receipt responds is what makes a word offensive. Simpleton was meant to mean people with a mild intellectual disability, it didn't work. They went for the word moron. Then after a while they chose retard, which originally meant ''to slow''. Which brings us to 2015, where the last 15 years we have had all kinds of words to describe a person with a mental disability. All these words were not supposed to be offensive, doctors that continued to use one of those words, did not insult their patients by using them. Any word can used as an offense, it all depends on the context, culture and intent. In The South they use ''bless your heart'' as an insult. Did you actually mean that the intent of the person using the word as an insult is because it is supposed to be offensive, since else he wouldn't use it? That would make more sense, but that doesn't change the fact of how a word becomes offensive or even if it is offensive in the first place.