Nazi Symbols Covering NYC Subway Train Cause Furor on Social Media - Polidicks

This show and book are both fuckin amazing and I can totally forgive this for being such an offbeat, somewhat shocking advertisement. It perfectly fits with the style of the universe Philip K. Dick constructed. You can't really meaningfully speak to this without understanding the nature of The Man in the High Castle. Oppression is the whole point and it's brutal.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49177460]In the book, the point of divergence from reality is when FDR is assassinated shortly before or after taking office his first term. This leads the US to never really recover from the Great Depression and continue its strong isolationist policies. This results in Nazi Germany and Japan taking on the UK/Australia one-on-one, not only without America as an ally, but without America as a lends-lease material giver. This allows the Japanese and the Nazis to invade both Australia and the United Kingdom with ease in the early 40s. Shortly afterward, in around 1944/1945, the Axis declares war on the United States, with the Nazis using nuclear weapons on a couple east coast cities (the Japanese do not develop them), and divide the continent between themselves. Plausible? Realistic? Well, not quite the point, because the whole novel is set in the 1960s and in the US, not Australia. So Australia's occupation is more or less for flavor than given an in-depth explanation.[/QUOTE] What happened to the Soviet Union? Even without LL Germany would find it extremely difficult to defeat the Soviets.

[QUOTE=froztshock;49174735]Wow, I came in here expecting a shit swastika but honestly that's uh... I mean, I love the shock value implicit in the imagery present in things related to The Man in the High Castle but to plaster it on a piece of public transit without context is a bit more than just a little faux pas.[/QUOTE] You missed how there are a bunch of posters advertising the show on the walls. Honestly I think this is cool. It's a refreshing change from the boring ass posters plastered over the lights.

lol i dont know why b ut its hilarious when people use the steel eagle and dont realize wat theyre doing wrong

Sure WW2 is fucking terrible, but Germany just released a movie about what happens if Hitler was revived today and it took down most movies in the boxoffice rumble. I for one would not mind those signs, the swastika is usually considered worse. The only thing i see that resembles anything Nazi'ish is the eagle. Also no one saying anything about the Imperial Japanese flag, besides the color that resembles the flag the most. But they did the right part in advertising, the show is getting a fuckload of exposure now and i have seen more then a few people getting hooked on it because of this news item.

[QUOTE=Sitkero;49175615]You do know that that particular eagle is the actual [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Germany#Nazi_Germany]emblem of the German Reich under Nazi rule[/url], right? The only difference is there's an iron cross where a swastika would usually be[/QUOTE] You do realize its basically Germany's Coat of Arms, right? They've always had the Eagle. [editline]25th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Sitkero;49176270]That's a fuckup on me, then. Got my symbols mixed up[/QUOTE] THe Iron Cross has been an award since Germans knew how to make them for military shit. The difference between a pre-post Nazi Iron Cross and a Nazi Iron Cross is the swastika in them.

It's funny how all the attention goes to the Nazi-esque flag, but no one pays attention to the Japanese Imperial-esque flag on the other side of the car. [img]http://i.imgur.com/KsHsu88.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49186158]It's funny how all the attention goes to the Nazi-esque flag, but no one pays attention to the Japanese Imperial-esque flag on the other side of the car. [img]http://i.imgur.com/KsHsu88.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That's because people have come to associate WW 2 with only Germany and the US, the other belligerents barely receiving exposure, save for the Soviet Union.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49186158]It's funny how all the attention goes to the Nazi-esque flag, but no one pays attention to the Japanese Imperial-esque flag on the other side of the car. [img]http://i.imgur.com/KsHsu88.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] ok this is awesome

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49184865]What happened to the Soviet Union? Even without LL Germany would find it extremely difficult to defeat the Soviets.[/QUOTE] It was more 1 v 1 with the United Kingdom under the occupation of Germany. The war with the USSR was a bit longer, and the Japanese helped with invading from the east IIRC. I know Stalin wasn't captured/killed until the late 40s. The Russians aren't completely killed off. To keep the military prowess alive, the Urals, which act as the border between the Germans and Japanese, have a large number of Russians living there under a sort of "indian reservation". The Germans keep a number of forts and blockhouses along the frontier there and have constant skirmishes with them. The Nazis could easily subdue the mountains and people within, but then there would be no realistic training for new recruits.

[QUOTE=SpaceDiggle;49186194]That's because people have come to associate WW 2 with only Germany and the US, the other belligerents barely receiving exposure, save for the Soviet Union.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't think that's true. I'd say that most people think of Japan, US, Germany, Soviet Union, and England as the main contenders when talking about WW2.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49174315]This isn't a case of people being too sensitive. I like the show but any type of Nazi imagery in a highly visible public place is a very shaky subject, the marketing team made a pretty poor choice.[/QUOTE] Well the only reason I've heard of this show is because of them stirring up shit so technically, it worked quite well.

whats sad is that people will call this "political correctness" even though its a fucking nazi symbol

[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;49187708]whats sad is that people will call this "political correctness" even though its a fucking nazi symbol[/QUOTE] ...it's an advertisement for an Amazon Prime show about a fictional alternate universe in which Nazi-Germany and the Japanese Empire defeat the United States and take over the world... that a bunch of people complained about because "OMG fictional German/Nazi symbol!"... This kind of bitching is over literally nothing but political correctness. We're calling it that because that's exactly what it is. And what I really love, like someone else pointed out, is how everyone automatically turns to the German side but pays no attention at all to the Japanese one.

[QUOTE=goldenbuttocks;49187708]whats sad is that people will call this "political correctness" even though its a fucking nazi symbol[/QUOTE] We really ought to remove swastikas from every and all history school books Think of the children!

P K Dick is probably rolling in his grave right now. Downright shameful.

[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49186158]It's funny how all the attention goes to the Nazi-esque flag, but no one pays attention to the Japanese Imperial-esque flag on the other side of the car[/QUOTE] I believe it's that most people don't know much about what the japinise empire did during world war two, while everyone knows: omg holocaust

[QUOTE=erkor;49185168]lol i dont know why b ut its hilarious when people use the steel eagle and dont realize wat theyre doing wrong[/QUOTE] It's not used wrong? That's just the flag for the German controlled eastern US in the fiction of the novel. Unless you mean something else.

Here's a descent run down of the novel for those wanting to know more. Take note that the novel and the television show has some major differences, what's pointed out here may not be in the show. [video=youtube;btI5y8Sw9cs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btI5y8Sw9cs[/video]

[QUOTE=Call Me Kiwi;49188956]I believe it's that most people don't know much about what the japinise empire did during world war two, while everyone knows: omg holocaust[/QUOTE] Which is fucking incredible. Nanking? Unit 731? I'd go as far as to say that the Japanese army beat the Germans to the "vicious, inhuman cunts of the century" award. [editline]26th November 2015[/editline] Besides, USA has had a brush with the Japanese army... Pearl Harbor. Fun fact: 14 of the 25 Japanese war criminals responsible for Nanking are memorialized at the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine#Post-war_issues_and_controversies"]Yasukuni shrine[/URL], in the center of Tokio, and there's still Japanese nationalists who use that place as a rally point for glorification and reivindication of Japanese militarism, and say that the reports of atrocities in Nanking are exaggerations and/or lies. Whereas nothing of the sort happens in Germany, as far as I know -- leaving aside Holocaust deniers, I don't think Germany memorializes Nazi generals or anyone who stood in the Nuremberg trials, and the German goverment stated that public demonstrations of Nazism are a big no-no.

I tried it today because it's free 4k content if you have prime, but I just couldn't get into it as a show. I appreciate it because it's like a work of art how it came out, but I just can't get into it as a show.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;49174315]This isn't a case of people being too sensitive. I like the show but any type of Nazi imagery in a highly visible public place is a very shaky subject, the marketing team made a pretty poor choice.[/QUOTE] No they didn't, they did a great job, we're all talking about the show right now, I'd have never heard of it if it weren't for this story, these people know what they're doing.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;49195313]I tried it today because it's free 4k content if you have prime, but I just couldn't get into it as a show. I appreciate it because it's like a work of art how it came out, but I just can't get into it as a show.[/QUOTE] How far did you get into it, if you don't mind me asking? If it's the first two episodes, I would urge you to at least watch until episode 4. The first two are really the weakest of the the whole season.

Why didn't they do this when I was in New York last week? :disappoint: