Largest Civil Disobedience In Walmart History Leads To More Than 50 Arrests
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[QUOTE=Bredirish123;42797716]I feel like this should be put into the OP to avoid pages of shit posts because people enjoy reading the first few lines of a thread and begin the bitch fest.[/QUOTE]
lol that info makes it worse and shows how oppressive the usa is.
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;42800703]just learn how to be a plumber[/QUOTE]
I feel like I'm missing something here.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;42797756]How the fuck do they expect a father of two to support his family on 1000 dollars a month?[/QUOTE]
That's one of the fucked up things about this - there is absolutely no way for a person to support their family on that wage. However, with welfare programs(food stamps, rental assistance, health assistance) it is possible to scrape by - barely. Walmart knows this full well and takes advantage of it. Rather then pay their employees a fair wage, they're shifting the cost of giving them a decent living standard onto the US taxpayer. Sadly, many corporations like Walmart are doing this. Why the US government refuses to address this problem, I have no fucking idea.
Just so everyone is aware - I am in no way saying our welfare programs are a bad idea. I'm saying it's really shitty of corporations to keep employee wages low and force taxpayers to pay the rest of what they SHOULD be making.
[QUOTE=glitchvid;42800301]Yeah, with the ACA (Obamacare) coming into effect, a lot of companies have just cut all the full-time workers and hired more part timers; so they don't have to pay as much in taxes. It's actually really fucked a lot of people over.[/QUOTE]
Hipster wal-mart was giving tenured career people the axe and focusing on part-time employees long before Mr. Obama was even elected.
I remember watching 20 year department managers leave and the chaos because no one else in the store knew how to run the departments.
ACA certainly reinforced this practice.
The best thing any wal-mart employee (fuck yourself if you believe that associate crap) is to find another job as soon as possible. Anything... ask yourself, whether you are checking or night stocking, would flipping burgers really be a step down? I can promise that a company with a smaller number of employees will treat you better than wal-mart is even capable of.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42802029]Lmfao bonuses and incentives haven't been around since Sam Walton died. When he was alive many employees got incentives if they were college student to maybe help pay for their school. As stated earlier in the thread Wal-Mart went to shit after Sam died.[/QUOTE]
uuuhhh what. wal-mart gives out quarterly bonuses to its employees
[QUOTE=TheHydra;42802912]uuuhhh what. wal-mart gives out quarterly bonuses to its employees[/QUOTE]
Those quarterly bonuses only apply to full time employees.
And they are rarely worth much.
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wait.. I was thinking of the yearly bonus that was based on the store audit.
I never heard of a quarterly bonus, so it must be new (within the last 5 years.)
note to people wondering why security won't stop people heading out the door with obvious stolen goods, it's common practice that you shouldn't even bother confronting someone over petty theft because 1: nothing's worth them turning around and injuring you over stolen shit (people will put up a good fight for a stick of gum just to avoid being caught), and 2: the stolen shit isn't worth as much as a lawsuit on you or your company if you assault someone and injure them, [i]especially if it turns out nothing was stolen[/i]. Chalk up your losses and remember you're not paid enough to deal with that shit, nor can the company legally dock hours/pay for letting it happen unless you're clearly an accomplice or something
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;42800749]I was accused of shoplifting once and the entirety of the Wal-Mart SS (Secret Shoppers), which consisted of one obese woman perpetually carting around an empty shopping cart, began tailing me throughout the store every time I went in there. I'd see her fat spilling out from around corners as she tried to catch me in the act, she'd glare at me from other isles and all around try to act like a fat Solid Snake with a shopping cart.
So I accused her of stalking me and I haven't seen her since.
Ah, Wal-Mart <3[/QUOTE]
I had a friend who loved messing with these people at our walmart (because they were notoriously overzealous at their job and got really accusatory at times). he actually [i]stole only the radio tag stickers[/i] off of some electronics packages and stuck them inside the sole of his steel-toe boots, so he'd beep every time he walked through the sensor things, then have a laugh about how "it's probably the steel in the toes" interfering with it. He'd also pretend to grab stuff off the shelf and stick it in his jacket when people were obviously watching, then (if he actually grabbed something, IE a mayonnaise jar) slip it onto a random shelf when he turned a corner so when he got confronted his pockets would be empty. I think it got to the point that the door security people knew him well enough that they didn't care about him beeping and he'd just pocket stuff knowing specific guards wouldn't check
my own experience with the particularly cranky elderly secret shopper was going to buy monster energy drinks, which happened to be down the same aisle as the booze. I was passing through the aisle when the guy steps in my way with a scowl and yells at me to give him my ID. This is great because I was 22 or 23 at the time and looked maybe 16-18, depending on how long (erego poofy) my hair was. He accused my drivers licence of being fake (but gave it back???), and told me to get out of the aisle, to which I walked around him to get my drinks which were pretty much behind him
alsoalso (not to help with theft!!) nobody short of police are allowed to do anything. I know this through the photographer's rights, the biggest example being mall security guards. They can't:
• touch you for fear of 'accidental' assault charges
• detain you (like keeping you in the security office, or worse, barring you in a bathroom), because it's considered kidnapping
• examine your pockets without reasonable cause and a warrant
• confiscate things (like a camera) because it's considered theft (even for stolen goods if they don't have a warrant and definitive proof it's stolen)
• with cameras, they can't even take the memory card or (force you to) delete photos because that's destruction of intellectual property
they can [i]only[/i] order you to get out and call the cops
The main walmart we'd always go to had a small sheriff's office attached to the front so that was a bit of a risky place for my friend to dink around at in that regard, heh
[QUOTE=areolop;42801579]This is what I'm talking about my second post. If you're working a job and looking for better/more work, but they wont give it to you... then you should be searching for a new fulltime job entirely instead of bitching about how shitty your part-time position is[/QUOTE]
...which you're not going to find anytime soon. So they don't have a choice but to work at walmart for the forseeable future.
[QUOTE=Untouch;42798008]Do you know why they just put random shit all over the place like ikea hopped up on caffeine because I've always wondered.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I learned this in one of my Marketing classes.
The reason the place looks like a fucking spastic mess is to help people believe that everything is super cheap. Like, they tried cleaning the place up a bit and their customers didn't believe they were getting the best deal. And by clean the place up a bit I mean get the random bins out of the middle of isles and they seriously lost sales. For some reason Dirt/grime/mess = Cheaper products.
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I doubt anyone will read this but hey.
[QUOTE=areolop;42797689]Just so that no one is confused, they were not arrested for actually protesting Walmart. They were arrested because they stayed there after their permit had expired. Those arrested were kept only overnight.[/QUOTE]
. . .says THE MAN.
(kidding, areolop. . .I actually respect the hell out of you)
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[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42799405]To be honest I've stolen a lot from there, just make sure nobodies watching you, go int the bathroom, go in a stall open up and take whatever you need, bury the plastic wrapping in the garbage under hella toilet paper. It's how I got left 4 dead 2, and two xbox controllers![/QUOTE]
Why the fuck would you brag about being a thief?
I won't shop at Wal-Mart again... my parents does for gorceries, but damn... After they screwed me over on my Ps4 Pre-order and now hearing about this and my friends who worked there before suffering like some short of wage slave, I refuse to work at wal-mart, hell sometimes I wish to see all of Wal-mart stores burn.
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Why the fuck would you brag about being a thief?[/QUOTE]
lol you can't steal from wal mart. you can only steal from another person and wal mart is not a person, it is a corporation that also happens to have insurance to pay for any "theft" that happens. it's inconsequential to steal from wal mart or any other big box store.
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[QUOTE=darkedone02;42803433]I won't shop at Wal-Mart again... my parents does for gorceries, but damn... After they screwed me over on my Ps4 Pre-orders and now hearing about this and my friends who worked there before suffering like some short of wage slave, I refuse to work at wal-mart, hell sometimes I wish to see all of Wal-mart stores burn.[/QUOTE]
wal mart groceries are mostly shit if you have to shop at a supercorporation for groceries safeway is a better option. hell, even fred meyer/kroger is a better option
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42803436]lol you can't steal from wal mart. you can only steal from another person and wal mart is not a person, it is a corporation that also happens to have insurance to pay for any "theft" that happens. it's inconsequential to steal from wal mart or any other big box store.
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wal mart groceries are mostly shit if you have to shop at a supercorporation for groceries safeway is a better option. hell, even fred meyer/kroger is a better option[/QUOTE]
It's all about who got to best goods and the cheap price, as current in my parents financial situation, we usually shop at Wal-Mart, unless Wal-Mart don't have something that we need, we go turn around to krogers and get some items. We sometimes do some small shopping at our local small stores as well like Priceless Foods, CVS, Wal-Greens, and sometimes once in a blue moon, we shop at meijer's, we don't shop at Meijer's much due to how expansive they are are.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;42803484]It's all about who got to best goods and the cheap price, as current in my parents financial situation, we usually shop at Wal-Mart, unless Wal-Mart have something that we need, we go turn around to krogers and get some items. We sometimes do some small shopping at our local small stores as well like Priceless Foods, CVS, Wal-Greens, and sometimes once in a blue moon, we shop at meijer's, we don't shop at Meijer's much due to how expansive they are are.[/QUOTE]
wal mart generally doesn't have best goods OR cheapest prices. for prepackaged food prices are generally comparable, but wal mart meat and produce is vastly inferior and often more expensive than safeway.
[editline]8th November 2013[/editline]
my dad is actually sorta similar but he shops at all the different supercorps for different items. he gets meat from safeway gets non-grocery items(toiletries, soaps, etc.) from wal mart, and kroger for most food.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42803506]wal mart generally doesn't have best goods OR cheapest prices. for prepackaged food prices are generally comparable, but wal mart meat and produce is vastly inferior and often more expensive than safeway.
[editline]8th November 2013[/editline]
my dad is actually sorta similar but he shops at all the different supercorps for different items. he gets meat from safeway gets non-grocery items(toiletries, soaps, etc.) from wal mart, and kroger for most food.[/QUOTE]
We buy most of our meat products from wal-mart, however if we want a steak dinner sometimes this coming week, we perfer steaks over at krogers because they look more clean and look better then Wal-mart's. We don't have a Safeway around here, and never even heard of a safeway corporation here in kentucky.
[QUOTE=27X;42799995]Welcome to murkkka, son.
Enjoy your stay.
People have been protesting wal-mart for years, their stance is that paying full time employees and hiring non-temp staff will bankrupt them within two years. Meanwhile they keep pressuring companies that sell to them to cut their own buying prices, simply because they're wal-mart.
After Sam Walton died the company went to absolute shit.[/QUOTE]
This. Man, it went to hell really fast after he passed away.
[QUOTE=darkedone02;42803564]We don't have a Safeway around here, and never even heard of a safeway corporation here in kentucky.[/QUOTE]
my roommate who works at a Dominick's always comes home with Safeway products, but I haven't heard of a safeway store. Maybe Dom's is a regional version of it for the midwest? Or they just supply the generic-brand options in a partnership or something, like Jewel Groceries and Osco Pharmacies joined into a single store for all their locations
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looked it up, it's a [url=http://www.dominicks.com/ShopStores/Safeway-Brand]generic supplier[/url] for Dom
[QUOTE=darkedone02;42803564]We buy most of our meat products from wal-mart, however if we want a steak dinner sometimes this coming week, we perfer steaks over at krogers because they look more clean and look better then Wal-mart's. We don't have a Safeway around here, and never even heard of a safeway corporation here in kentucky.[/QUOTE]
these are the names it goes by according to wikipedia
Carrs-Safeway (Alaska)
Dominick's (Illinois)
Genuardi's (Pennsylvania)
Pak'n Save (California)
Safeway (Arizona, Northern California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Northern Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming)
Randalls (Texas)
Simon David
Tom Thumb
Vons (Southern California, Southern Nevada)
Pavilions
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42803702]these are the names it goes by according to wikipedia
Carrs-Safeway (Alaska)
Dominick's (Illinois)
Genuardi's (Pennsylvania)
Pak'n Save (California)
Safeway (Arizona, Northern California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Northern Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, South Dakota, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming)
Randalls (Texas)
Simon David
Tom Thumb
Vons (Southern California, Southern Nevada)
Pavilions[/QUOTE]
So not a single store name listed for kentucky? heh, sound like they need to expand over here.
I heard from some old folks around here that we used to have a store called "when dixie" or something similar, used to be a big store around here until they closed down, alot of people liked that store because they contain almost everything, almost sound like Wal-Mart and kroger's combined from the sound of it.
Perhaps one of the biggest issues today regarding the western world is underemployment. Politicians can boast record low unemployment figures, but if half of all employed people aren't getting as much work as they like then there is a serious problem. The media and politicians generally ignore the issue but it is there, and we spent a few weeks on the issue in one of my economics courses at uni.
[editline]9th November 2013[/editline]
I'm only rostered for 8 or 12 hours each week, but I need more than that alongside my government allowance to pay my bills. Because I'm only 18 I get paid around $7 an hour less than my older co-workers, I don't really mind that though. I put in the same amount of work as the others and I'm nearly always available to work, so they call me in enough that I'm doing from between 20 to 32 hours every week which is great but I do want a guarantee of more hours every week, because for each birthday I have until I'm 21 I gradually lose my competitive advantage as an employee.
Someone hanged up some posters in the locker room at work of a campaign for '100% pay from 18', but as an 18 year old I can't support that campaign.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;42803835]Perhaps one of the biggest issues today regarding the western world is underemployment. Politicians can boast record low unemployment figures, but if half of all employed people aren't getting as much work as they like then there is a serious problem. The media and politicians generally ignore the issue but it is there, and we spent a few weeks on the issue in one of my economics courses at uni.[/QUOTE]
Tell me about, Underemployment is rampent, some people are pointing fingers at our werfare system, where people in our neighborhood living in section-A housing do not want to work, yet still living off of food stamps and living off the government, some people point fingers at certain corporations hiring illegal immigrants who are pretty much stealing our jobs. Those are the two things I keep hearing from my father but I really don't know if he is speaking the truth or absorb some short of bullshit that fox news came up with.
My experiance with unemployment is that it's hard to get a decent entry level job that is willing to hire you, around here in kentucky, I searched up many places to get a job from like Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Meijer's and other places out there, I've been searching for a job ever since high school and it took me around at least 4-5 years to get one... Luckly my brother actually help me get a job working at Line-X, a place where people get their spray-on bedliners and car/truck products like place mat's and stuff... I worked there for about 6 months before they laid me off due to how business starts to slow down during the winter as we don't get alot of customers.
My next job took me around 5 month to get, I used to work at priceless foods for about 3 months as a 3rd shift stocker. My job over there was to stock up goods from these pallets that are placed between in front of our aisles, we take them to their right aisle and we continue doing that till all the pallets are empty, then we get to work on facing the products, stocking up the goods, do our t-tops to store items and do our backstock... I worked there for at least 2-3 months until they let me go for underproductivity, which means they expected me to work both the cat food and dog food aisle in under 1-3 hours, with 50-100 items to stock, doing my huge as t-tops and backstock... it took me at least 6 hours to do. Priceless foods did not really give me good hours as well since they moved us 3rd shift stockers to 1st shift because they don't want us waiting for the trucks to come or something, which really kinda upset me because I wanted a 3rd shift job, not a 1st shift job.. it's also causes alot of conflicts between transportation issues for me considering I don't have my own car and driver license (don't even have the money to afford one). Priceless food stock job pay me around $8.00 an hour, and like I said, it's kinda hard to get 8 hours in sometimes.
now After getting let go, I end up job searching again, but this time I end up getting a temp job at a amazon warehouse, getting payed 11 dollars and hour, 10 hour 3rd shift job, pretty much full-time temp plus overtime day due to chrismas and after chrismas...
Safeway is pretty nice. Shopped there all the time for my time in Virginia.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42803436]lol you can't steal from wal mart. you can only steal from another person and wal mart is not a person, it is a corporation that also happens to have insurance to pay for any "theft" that happens. it's inconsequential to steal from wal mart or any other big box store.
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except legally corporations are treated as separate entities with the rights of 'people' here in America.
thus a corporation in America is an 'individual'
economics 101
so saying 'lol you can't steal from wal mart' is pretty fucking dumb buddy, you're taking something that isn't yours and not paying the owner for it.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;42805192]except legally corporations are treated as separate entities with the rights of 'people' here in America.
thus a corporation in America is an 'individual'
economics 101
so saying 'lol you can't steal from wal mart' is pretty fucking dumb buddy, you're taking something that isn't yours and not paying the owner for it.[/QUOTE]
idgaf what the science of violence says about what a corporate entity is, it's not a person capable of owning shit. stealing from wal mart is like taking an apple off a tree and getting shot for stealing from the forest.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42805246]idgaf what the science of violence says about what a corporate entity is, it's not a person capable of owning shit. stealing from wal mart is like taking an apple off a tree and getting shot for stealing from the forest.[/QUOTE]
So you're encouraging theft?
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42797713]President Elmo is very adamant about his Tickle Down policies[/QUOTE]
The economy is very Ticklish =D
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;42805500]So you're encouraging theft?[/QUOTE]
no i'm saying that you can't steal from a person that doesn't exist.
so yea i'm encouraging people to shoplift from wal mart.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42805654]no i'm saying that you can't steal from a person that doesn't exist.
so yea i'm encouraging people to shoplift from wal mart.[/QUOTE]
what do you mean people should shoplift
thats illegal people cant do that
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42805705]what do you mean people should shoplift
thats illegal people cant do that[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M8vei3L0L8[/media]
wal mart aint keepin me down
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;42805705]what do you mean people should shoplift
thats illegal people cant do that[/QUOTE]
Are you seriously asking that question to someone who's display picture has a large anarchy symbol on it?
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