Diamond Comic Distributors Report Shipping Out Over 10 Million Comics, While DC Overtakes Marvel - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51061021]Disney is really doing some weird stuff to Marvel[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51061062]I don't think so, I think Disney has no idea how to run Marvel. The editors are slacking, with errors all over the place and Brian Michael Bendis running amok. I can already hear the Disney higher ups saying "Only the movies matter!"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;51061064]See, I wonder how much Disney is pushing Marvel to do certain things. Apart from the obvious "make Star Wars comics" you'd think they'd be pushing for more synergy with the movies but right now Steve, Tony, Thor, Bruce, and Clint aren't starring in their eponymous series.[/QUOTE] Not Disney. Ike Perlmutter. Disney i guarantee you hates this as much as we do, considering they forced Ike off of the movies at Kevin Feiges request (He was part of the creative committee and is responsible for much of the executive meddling, iirc, is responsible for the Fantastic Four being cancelled, for the devaluing of the X-Men brand, and for trying to make the Inhumans into the X-Men, due to his hatred of Fox, and is why the Inhumans movie was a thing at one point and is still a thing in the Marvel Entertainment run AoS) Ike, however, has large shares in Disney, so they cant quite just remove him from CEO of Marvel outright.

[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;51061021]Disney is really doing some weird stuff to Marvel[/QUOTE] See, I wonder how much Disney is pushing Marvel to do certain things. Apart from the obvious "make Star Wars comics" you'd think they'd be pushing for more synergy with the movies but right now Steve, Tony, Thor, Bruce, and Clint aren't starring in their eponymous series.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51061004][media]https://twitter.com/TomBrevoort/status/768614016658862081[/media][/QUOTE] wat. Like, I'm aware that the black community still faces challenges and so on and so forth in the States (sorry if this sounds like derailing) but come on man. Bruce was what, 10-11 at the time of his parents murder? I'm pretty fucking sure the police would be smart enough to know he didn't kill his parents because he was black. What does the butler comment mean either. Do rich black people not have butlers? I'm all for increasing minority representation in media but it needs to be done tactfully and shouldn't be a central part of their character - or if it is a central part of their character, there needs to be a logical reason WHY. They should also be original characters, since in most cases they're always going to be in the shadow of the original character - unless the character is extremely well developed, along the lines of the Flash, aka their own character with the same abilities. Marvel has gone the completely wrong direction.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51060891] -snip- Marvel is in a really sorry state right now.[/QUOTE] Holy shit. That is fucking appalling. I have zero problems with comics trying to tackle issues like minority rights or LGBT as long as they have some fucking subtlety (and good writing), how much better are DC in terms of comics?

is Constantine a good comic series? i'm reading it at the moment and enjoying it, just wondering what other people thought of it (new 52 and hellblazer)

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51061092]Holy shit. That is fucking appalling. I have zero problems with comics trying to tackle issues like minority rights or LGBT as long as they have some fucking subtlety, how much better are DC in terms of comics?[/QUOTE] Unbelievably better. Not only that, but they also do have a lot of minority/non white characters (Static, Steel, Black Lightning, John Stewart, Cyborg, Mister Terrific, the various international Batmen, Renee Montoya, Lady Shiva, Ra's Al Ghul, Talia Al Ghul, Damian Wayne, Blue Beetle, Katana, Killer Croc, that one new Green Lantern Simon Baz, Amanda "The Fucking Wall" Waller, Black Manta, Bane) and openly gay/bisexual characters (Midnighter, Apollo, Pied Piper, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, John Constantine, Obsidian, Batwoman, Renee Montoya, Catman), and prominent female heroes (Wonder Woman, Wonder Girl, Supergirl, Power Girl, Batgirl, Batwoman, Raven, Starfire, Hawkgirl, the new female Green Lantern, Cassandra Cain, Catwoman, Spoiler, Gotham Girl, Vixen) without it interfering in their storytelling ability, they do it better than Marvel. I'd recommend checking out Batman and Detective Comics, im following them right now, they're pretty :okay: And All Star Batman is a trip. Its off the walls.

also DC is doing reimaginings of classic Hanna-Barbera shows. Their Flintstones series is good.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51061092]Holy shit. That is fucking appalling. I have zero problems with comics trying to tackle issues like minority rights or LGBT as long as they have some fucking subtlety (and good writing), how much better are DC in terms of comics?[/QUOTE] A good team of writers writing good dialogue, and I would argue the art is mostly mixed. However DC is listening to their fans closely, and following up on New 52 with Rebirth. While anything Batman, Superman and Justice League will always be top sellers, when you have Green Arrow, Aquaman and Harley Quinn outselling all Marvel titles it should be a semi-reflection of their quality.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51060751][img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le673z6Ys01qcfhrxo1_500.jpg[/img] They need to stop this shit. [editline]16th September 2016[/editline] Humberto Ramos is a special individual. His masterpiece is probably Mount Bubmore. [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h9TVR4LuHEo/UWyyoEh_xII/AAAAAAAAApk/n04TY1KLTwU/s1600/wolverine.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Some of their best friends are flowers? I don't get it.

[QUOTE=notlabbet;51061253]Some of their best friends are flowers? I don't get it.[/QUOTE] Gays

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51061004][media]https://twitter.com/TomBrevoort/status/768614016658862081[/media][/QUOTE] Not sure if Brevoort is being a cunt or being actually racist himself.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51061351]Not sure if Brevoort is being a cunt or being actually racist himself.[/QUOTE] Could be both.

How is DC these days, story/art wise? I pretty much don't ready any modern mainstream comics cause I find them to be too cringey.

[QUOTE=chocolatedrop;51061540]How is DC these days, story/art wise? I pretty much don't ready any modern mainstream comics cause I find them to be too cringey.[/QUOTE] Pretty good.

[QUOTE=chocolatedrop;51061540]How is DC these days, story/art wise? I pretty much don't ready any modern mainstream comics cause I find them to be too cringey.[/QUOTE] DC is actually getting their act together after the hot mess that was the early New 52. They don't have a very wide range of art styles but it's not as strict of a house style as it was a few years back (and although Marvel is more willing to vary their artists, for every Tradd Moore or Gurihiru you get Erica Henderson or Greg Land). I haven't been following Rebirth very closely but I've heard very good things about how they're reworking the interpretations of their heroes to take from their best interpretations. If you don't like superheroes then take a look at Image - [I]Paper Girls[/I] and [I]Nowhere Men[/I] are knocking it out of the park.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/hXyQRzd.jpg[/img] I skimmed through this thread and didn't see this gem posted, so I thought I'd share. This is Marvel today. It's hardly a wonder DC gets more sales. Let it be known that Marvel used the word "Mansplaining" unironically. It's a real shame, I really, really loved some older Marvel comics. Like the Civil War arc told through Spiderman's POV. And their use of the word isn't all that I'm angry about. I'm angry that some hack of a writer was paid to dream up a situation so lazily contrived and so condescendingly written that they could fit the use of that stupid made-up word in a comic that would probably have been a lot better without it, just so said writer can feel a degree of smug satisfaction.

I expected for Image to have a bigger piece of the pie due to them having all the Robert Kirkman comics, Saga and a bunch of other beloved comics, but I guess they must get more sale when the graphic novels hit. And also we shouldn't forget that this doesn't cover digital comics like on comixology.

Another thing I don't like about Marvel is their single issues are far and away the lowest quality. I pull a variety of stuff, and when I go from Marvel to DC or especially from Marvel to Image or IDW I can [I]immediately[/I] feel the difference in the quality of paper. On a similar note, why is it that the big two comic companies owned by massive corporations (Disney, Warner Bros) have to stuff their issues with ads throughout the story whereas independents like Image and IDW just have one or two pages of in-house ads at the end of the issue?

[QUOTE=archangel125;51061916][img]http://i.imgur.com/hXyQRzd.jpg[/img] I skimmed through this thread and didn't see this gem posted, so I thought I'd share. This is Marvel today. It's hardly a wonder DC gets more sales. Let it be known that Marvel used the word "Mansplaining" unironically. It's a real shame, I really, really loved some older Marvel comics. Like the Civil War arc told through Spiderman's POV.[/QUOTE] Haha what the fuck, they actually used mansplaining the madmen

speaking of dc or marvel, image comics is super solid. their lineup is great and i'd recommend image comics over both dc and marvel, especially if you're not into superhero stuff.

[QUOTE=archangel125;51061916][img]http://i.imgur.com/hXyQRzd.jpg[/img] I skimmed through this thread and didn't see this gem posted, so I thought I'd share. This is Marvel today. It's hardly a wonder DC gets more sales. Let it be known that Marvel used the word "Mansplaining" unironically. It's a real shame, I really, really loved some older Marvel comics. Like the Civil War arc told through Spiderman's POV.[/QUOTE] Latest issue of Superwoman. [t]http://i.imgur.com/o0V8ibo.jpg[/t] Both of the Big Two are using the term and both need to drop it right fucking now.

The one thing to be aware of with Image is that, unlike Marvel/DC/IDW franchise books, they typically go on hiatus rather than swapping out authors/artists. This is actually a good thing in the long run because the book feels more cohesive.

[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;51062286]The one thing to be aware of with Image is that, unlike Marvel/DC/IDW franchise books, they typically go on hiatus rather than swapping out authors/artists. This is actually a good thing in the long run because the book feels more cohesive.[/QUOTE] Thats because Image publishes exclusively creator owned and creator driven/scheduled books.

This is how I see things. Marvel -> good movies, lame comics DC -> pretty good comics, fucking terrible movies

[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;51062330]This is how I see things. Marvel -> good movies, lame comics DC -> pretty good comics, fucking terrible movies[/QUOTE] How long the movie situation lasts is anyones guess. DC turning around isnt a matter of if but when (The Affleck Batman solo is guaranteed to not be shit pretty much), lets hope Marvel doesnt 180 in reaction.

[QUOTE=AaronM202;51060709][img_thumb]http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/6063/5305259-image1.jpg[/img_thumb] [/QUOTE] It's funny how even in this image alone the characters look unlikable.

[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51062284]Latest issue of Superwoman. [t]http://i.imgur.com/o0V8ibo.jpg[/t] Both of the Big Two are using the term and both need to drop it right fucking now.[/QUOTE] They're trying to appeal to the fake comic geek hipsters that the MCU reeled in. And it's unfortunately working.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51063599]They're trying to appeal to the fake comic geek hipsters that the MCU reeled in. And it's unfortunately working.[/QUOTE] Not really, no. Marvels suffering as a result.

[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51062284]Latest issue of Superwoman. [t]http://i.imgur.com/o0V8ibo.jpg[/t] Both of the Big Two are using the term and both need to drop it right fucking now.[/QUOTE] it's retarded as hell to use the term in the first place, but at least in this case it's only a reference of the word he's not suddenly shrugged off and he's not imposing some bullshit or another, he's just reinforcing his concern on a personal level still could've gone without it but oh well

To think the only outcries IDW has ever had are mediocre crossover events compared to their singular stories because Hasbro wants to sell toys more than tell stories (Combiner Wars and Titans Return), merging ALL 80's toy products into one comic universe (GI Joe, Micronauts, ROM the Space Knight, M.A.S.K., and Transformers), and some shirt-collar-tucking origins of popular characters (Arcee wasn't originally female in her 'Spotlight' story and was a total psychopath but issues fixed that) [QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;51061092]Holy shit. That is fucking appalling. I have zero problems with comics trying to tackle issues like minority rights or LGBT as long as they have some fucking subtlety (and good writing), how much better are DC in terms of comics?[/QUOTE] You should see what IDW Transformers is doing with gender and relationships. Apparently there was a war waging across Cybertron millions of years before the Great War(Autobots vs Decepticons) happened and a majority of varied Cybertronians evacuated the planet, this included Cybertronians with female chassis. Mad scientist Jhiaxus plucked a mentally unstable character named RC and used as a catalyst to replicate the female form that was lost long ago. [t]http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thumb/9/98/SpotlightArcee-ArceeWillBurnJhiaxusDown.jpg/416px-SpotlightArcee-ArceeWillBurnJhiaxusDown.jpg[/t] Many years later after the Great War ended and the lost Cybertronians are coming back Arcee has pretty much gotten used to it and is less blood-thirsty from the experiments as a result. On relationships, well...[URL="http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Conjunx_Endura"]take a gander at this[/URL]. Before anyone gets pissed, it all makes sense in context and the characters are better for it rather than just being there to sell toys to kids. I'm honestly surprised that IDW isn't selling more comics because they're handling the LGBT angle a LOT more than what Marvel/DC are doing imo.