Judging by the rate this thread is going we are going to be DDoS'd by the JIDF again.
This thread reminded me of [QUOTE=Ace of Snails;22866443] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Anti-Semitism" - Mr. Gestapo))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
Israel needs to be reigned in. I don't care if it's considered 'anti-Semitic' to hold Israel accountable to it's actions but it needs to happen.
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;36713342]Im not a racist or anything but[/QUOTE]
I have never heard this statement ended with anything other than an extremely racist remark.
[QUOTE=Conscript;36711811]And cultivating anti-semitism and jewish conspiracy theories among the people it marginalizes, apparently:
Seriously, what's with the 'jews own the media' crap? There's no doubt a significant pro-israeli, zionist bias but why do people assume this means jews own shit?[/QUOTE]
There's a metric shitton of Jewish media magnates. Back in the day they didn't have any compunctions about going into new fields like cinema or television unlike the stuffy Anglo-Saxons and I guess it kinda self-perpetuated from there.
Please we need more anti-semitism ITT step it up guys
Guys, don't go "Jews blah blah blah"
Israeli people aren't just Jews. When they do something like this, they don't necessarily follow their religious views, so please don't pull up some Jewish stuff on things like these.
Blaming Israeli government for something is okay, but saying the Jews have some terrible involvement in things like these is just weird.
Either ways, this is completely wrong, even if they had a reason to make the borders clear.
At least they could do something to move the people who lived in those places.
But. I think the ways they make the news seem wrong angeled, or what you would call it, is almost all the way around here in Norway. If Israel takes action against Gaza, or Palestinians in general, the news are all over it, but there's almost nothing like what's described here.
[QUOTE=kazookie;36727699]Guys, don't go "Jews blah blah blah"
Israeli people aren't just Jews. When they do something like this, they don't necessarily follow their religious views, so please don't pull up some Jewish stuff on things like these.
Blaming Israeli government for something is okay, but saying the Jews have some terrible involvement in things like these is just weird.
Either ways, this is completely wrong, even if they had a reason to make the borders clear.
At least they could do something to move the people who lived in those places.
But. I think the ways they make the news seem wrong angeled, or what you would call it, is almost all the way around here in Norway. If Israel takes action against Gaza, or Palestinians in general, the news are all over it, but there's almost nothing like what's described here.[/QUOTE]
Israel calls itself "The Jewish State", the Israeli defence forces holds the same views and defends them with military force.
Thus, I bet the Jews did this.
[QUOTE=Chernarus;36727789]Israel calls itself "The Jewish State", the Israeli defence forces holds the same views and defends them with military force.
Thus, I bet the Jews did this.[/QUOTE]
What.
So all Jews from all over the world just got involved in the wrecking of homes.
What's the logic in that.
If you [b]really[/b] want to blame Jews, the least you can do is specify.
I love Jews.
People really need to stop giving Israel so much leeway with all this bullshit they pull, it's beyond getting out of hand and nobody seems to want to hold them accountable for their actions.
The Zionists are doing what they do best.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;36734119]The Zionists are doing what they do best.[/QUOTE]
The MEDIA is doing what it does best - lies. I'm an Israeli and I never heard about this at all today. Go ahead, stick to your darn stigmas of us being land takers and complete jerks. Two different presidents tried to negotiate with the Palasinians about giving them the West Bank and they said NO! over and over again.
Political discussion and common hate to me in 3... 2... 1...
[QUOTE=DancingEngie;36734150]The MEDIA is doing what it does best - lies. I'm an Israeli and I never heard about this at all today. Go ahead, stick to your darn stigmas of us being land takers and complete jerks. Two different presidents tried to negotiate with the Palasinians about giving them the West Bank and they said NO! over and over again.
Political discussion and common hate to me in 3... 2... 1...[/QUOTE]
the palestinians continually turned down the chance to have israelis take their land?? fucking savages, they deserve all the pain they get.
[QUOTE=Kopimi;36734210]the palestinians continually turned down the chance to have israelis take their land?? fucking savages, they deserve all the pain they get.[/QUOTE]
Yup. We've offered them 97% of the West Bank in 2000 and 100% (Jersulem of course being shared) in 2008. The answer? No.
I'm not making this up. Go check it out. (NOT Wikipedia since it's free to edit, who knows what anti-israel planted there).
[QUOTE=DancingEngie;36734150]I'm an Israeli and I never heard about this at all today[/QUOTE]
hey uh your government admits this happens
[QUOTE=thisispain;36734286]hey uh your government admits this happens[/QUOTE]
Well yeah of course it happens. I ment to say I never got to see today about this farm destruction. Gaza launch missles- we bomb them. No one cares about Gaza bombing us anymore.
[QUOTE=DancingEngie;36734281]Yup. We've offered them 97% of the West Bank in 2000 and 100% (Jersulem of course being shared) in 2008. The answer? No.
[/QUOTE]
k good job not knowing anything about your country
in 2000 the Second Intifada broke out which immediately ended negotiations, and an impasse occured before-hand when the israeli's offered annexing Palestinian land, only custodianship of Jerusalem, and no right of return for Palestinian refugees.
and of course Arafat was utterly inept
[QUOTE=DancingEngie;36734150]The MEDIA is doing what it does best - lies. I'm an Israeli and I never heard about this at all today. Go ahead, stick to your darn stigmas of us being land takers and complete jerks. Two different presidents tried to negotiate with the Palasinians about giving them the West Bank and they said NO! over and over again.
Political discussion and common hate to me in 3... 2... 1...[/QUOTE]
Israel has specifically targeted olive plantations for years, under the pretext of counter-terrorism bullshit. Knowing the Olive is highly symbolic for the Palestinians, and an important income.
It's well documented.
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11741320[/url]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8387927.stm[/url]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8160607.stm[/url]
and so on.
[QUOTE=dancingengie]Political discussion and common hate to me in 3... 2... 1...[/QUOTE]
This is the part.
Cool story bro
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;36734336]Israel has specifically targeted olive plantations for years, under the pretext of counter-terrorism bullshit. Knowing the Olive is highly symbolic for the Palestinians, and an important income.
It's well documented.
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11741320[/url]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8387927.stm[/url]
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8160607.stm[/url]
and so on.[/QUOTE]
Unless I see actual evidence (i.e wikileaks) this is all assumptions and borderline bullshit.
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/oct/23/israel[/url]
[url]http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/major-olive-producing-village-ordered-to-uproot-1400-trees-by-may-1.html[/url]
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
[url]http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/israel-destroys-hundreds-of-west-bank-olive-trees-to-lay-settlement-water-line.html[/url]
Seriously, there is hundreds of articles on it.
you think wikileaks is more believable evidence than the BBC?????
I can't figure out which is more hilarious - people blindly defending Israel or people blindly hating all jews.
[QUOTE=thisispain;36734386]you think wikileaks is more believable evidence than the BBC?????[/QUOTE]
I do. What makes you think BBC is more believable?
[QUOTE=Stopper;36734387]I can't figure out which is more hilarious - people blindly defending Israel or people blindly hating all jews.[/QUOTE]
Find examples of both.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;36734363][url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/oct/23/israel[/url]
[url]http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/major-olive-producing-village-ordered-to-uproot-1400-trees-by-may-1.html[/url]
[editline]12th July 2012[/editline]
[url]http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/israel-destroys-hundreds-of-west-bank-olive-trees-to-lay-settlement-water-line.html[/url]
Seriously, there is hundreds of articles on it.[/QUOTE]
Still, not a definite proof that the Israelis did this because it's symbolic and important income source for the Palestinians... You assumed they do.
[QUOTE=Seith;36734393]I do. What makes you think BBC is more believable?[/QUOTE]
well first of all wikileaks isn't a news agency
[url]http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Israel[/url]
but suit yourself mate, wikileaks is even more damning.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;36734394]Find examples of both.[/QUOTE]
Seriously?
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;36733638]People really need to stop giving Israel so much leeway with all this bullshit they pull, it's beyond getting out of hand and nobody seems to want to hold them accountable for their actions.[/QUOTE]
The people you talk of are actually mostly AIPAC and deluded Evangelicals.
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